As cool as it would be, it would have large implications for station camps. So, not supported.

It seems silly to have to resort to an alt to see what is outside of a station, and to imagine that from within a station you can't even know what ships are around., but you can when you are in a tiny pod...
Most of the people will already have the intel.
What is the point of not being able to check what is going on?

If the timer for re docking was set to a length creating a real risk for undocking I would understand that there is a game design behind it, but the way it is Indicates that this is an heritage of shuffled priorities and probably one of the higher hanging dev fruit...

After 10 years, it would be nice to see this fixed, one way (allow checking outside the station from within) or the other (increase the re-docking time to commit an undocking ship to a blind fight if playing without alt or intel)

As cool as it would be, it would have large implications for station camps. So, not supported.

the second one though would lead to a majority of lowsec stations being camped, afterall, it means your sebo'd tornados with a sebo'd inty on the undock get free kills, which would lead to no one undocking if there were other people in local.

hell, the whole station system is a pain in the ass, because the entire system discourages fights, because once your at the point where your station camping, the fights just stop happening, since the docked people have no clue WHAT is outside or how badly they are outnumbered/outmatched, they just wont undock, or they completely outnumber the enemy, so undock, adn the enemy leaves before a shot is even fired.

Kinda why, in my darkest EVE wishes, i wish ships and everythign else in EVE, were visible, if thyre docked, theyre IN a dock, you can see out, they can see in, everyone can fight mid-docking to inside the station. you know, the full star wars experience.

Star Citizen was supposed to be this but star citizen dropped that ball a week or two after it was announced with every other bad design decision they made (read as almost everything theyve decided). and even then its not the "full experience".

I eman yes this is a rant, just in my most wonderous dreams I wish EVE hada mind control helmet and was matrix style in ingame realism, thatd be fun. unfortuenately we cant even get away from lag with the system we have now.

and before anyone says anything about how incoherent this post is, i know, im stuck between being half asleep and drugged up on pain killers, so im just hoping im hitting the tright keyz.

As cool as it would be, it would have large implications for station camps. So, not supported.

Star Citizen was supposed to be this but star citizen dropped that ball a week or two after it was announced with every other bad design decision they made (read as almost everything theyve decided). and even then its not the "full experience".

Not sure I understand fully .... wouldn't any serious campers or camp breakers have spy alts available anyway?

The only issues I really see is the impact on the server when 1500 jita trader practically 'undock' when they change the scenery for the entertainment. - The holo sim with the holo station and just dots for ships plus zoom might be an improvement. Maybe colorcoded dots for the security rating/standings.

That way you know numbers and tags, but no names or ship types and cant see weapon modules, that shoudl satisfy the 'too much free intel', 'use an alt', 'be prepared' crowd.

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.... all of the information they want about any hostiles outside, almost effortlessly. This feature, should it become a feature, doesn't need to have anything beyond art assets shown, and that's why I support it.

Anyone can already get on grid outside of a station safely to gather all of the information they want about any hostiles outside, almost effortlessly.

This is news to me. How do I, who has no alt accounts, get on grid *safely* outside of a station I'm docked at, when that station has an insta-undock point? In 0.0. With 30 unknowns in system. I would like to know, because I could have used that information yesterday.

Some stations kick you out too fast, test it first

Yes, I wasn't trying to disagree per-se, just urging people to test it BEFORE they are trapped

Undock.

That's very rare and you can still use instant undocks - the only time I've EVER seen anything get caught there was with intys with 6000+ scan res and there comes a point where preparat

As you continue your career in Eve Online, you will eventually leave the cradle of High Security space, cross the low-sec danger zone, and delve into an area of space known as 0.0. It is important that, before you do so, you learn of the mechanics of this space. For instance, in 0.0, there is a deployable that can be used called a warp interdiction bubble. These bubbles will prevent you from warping, even if aligned and at speed, unless you are in an interceptor or a specially equipped Tech 3 ships (I do not recommend new players go for a Tech 3 ship until they have a firm grasp of game mechanics and are willing to lose SP when their ships are destroyed, so that will have to be a topic for another day).

30 seconds of invulnerability. Are you really lagging for 30 seconds when you undock? You can't be targeted, you can't be pointed, you can't be SB'd. You are completely invulnerable. If you don't have a bookmark after you get kicked too far away from the station, that is your fault.

It's not luck. It's preparation, nothing more.