By that logic, people who steal an apple should have their hands cut off.

The new bounty sytem is situational, the hunter gets what he shoots. If the bad guy flies in a shuttle with an empty clone, shooting him will pay out almost nothing.

Are you really sure you understand ?

Doesn't seem so.

As a ganker, I wouldn't notice the change in mechanic. You will not catch my pod.

As a ganker, I wouldn't notice the change in mechanic. You will not catch my pod. I assume someone's going to try for it anyway and I'm in warp before I'm exploded. If you did manage it, I'd be congratulating you and laughing at my own fail. The only people this mechanic change could possibly hurt are newbs who are surprised by their ship suddenly being replaced by a pod and sit around there waiting to be targeted. Me? I'm warped out and in a station before you realize what happened.

I can not agree with that idea, simply because gankers use cheap thrashers and empty clones anyway.

usual ganker/pvp'er argument: if less ships got blown up, whom to sell any stuff to? well, either people carry on with doing lots of mining/industry/pve to afford some pve, or - if pvp ship loss rate wasnt as high - they could spend a lower percentage of their time in mining/industry/pve to do more pvp. this would mean more engagements, more adrenaline. how? increase the chance to survive engagements, e.g. by
- overall increase of HP for all ships. favor hull HP, making them harder to utilize for logistics. new tactics, more variety.
- make warp scrambling chance-based like ECM. (favors web+bounce tactics)
- introduce first/new counter(s) to high alpha (e.g. new logistics: remote resistances or Chaff (reducing signature radius))
- factor victim's and attacker's sec status in to concord response times. make high standings give you an advantage!
this would change balancing, making ganking harder - it needs more players or more expensive fitting to accomplish the job. and adds unforeseeable variables to the ganking game!

i find it ridiculous how easy it is to gank a 170k EHP freighter in highsec. do the math what you are "allowed" to fit on a pve-BS not to be eligible for ganking. laughable.

I'll catch you, you just wait and see...

(StillBorn waves his fist in defiance)...

on the other hand... maybe ganking in itself is part of the problem... that it is possible first place to deal so much damage in so short time with so little invest. some thoughts in this post #75...

You've got a month to plot your revenge and catch them in something expensive. Why isn't that enough?

Great now whenever a 5 day old character goes GCC because he accidently shot a wreck in an asteroid belt I can pod him!

actually i am unaware: shooting a wreck gives you GCC?!

but even if it did, as pointed out earlier, getting podded as a noob is basically no extra cost. it is exactly made this way so you can learn without repercussions. the only loss is the ship+fitting.

This action is an attack on your target. Attacking this target is a crime, will result in a security status penalty for you and will bring CONCORD to enforce the law by destroying your ship. CONCORD will kill you!

Do you wish to proceed with this dangerous action?

You seem to argue both sides. On the one hand, gankers use these barely used, throw-away accounts and you need to be able to pod them to make them PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE!!! because expecting them to be huntable is a laughable proposition....on the other hand, podding newb toons costs them nothing.

So which is it? Are people out there ganking on their main, or another well trained, often used character that you could hunt down and get revenge upon....or are they ganking on toss-outs they don't care about and only play for this one purpose?

As a ganker, I wouldn't notice the change in mechanic. You will not catch my pod.

You've got a month to plot your revenge and catch them in something expensive. Why isn't that enough?

On the other hand, hearing the tears of those that got popped when they shot a flashy pod is quite laughable and would be sorely missed.

I never go GCC and if I did I'd be able to get my pod out so +1 because of all the newbies I'll get to pod kill because they clicked the wrong button.

Speaking as someone who loves shooting pods, I support the OP wholeheartedly.

It would make Hulkageddon so much more interesting

I'm not arguing against it, nor am I being sarcastic. I think it's a great idea because I will be able to get alot of free highsec podkills, it's just funny that this mechanic change would benefit my gameplay, hurt cute newbies and barely effect suicide gankers at all.

I'm all fot it.

Theres way too much hatred in your words.

Thanks for proving my point. You should ask somebody to read your post out loud, so you can hear it. No use talking to people like you. Your ego is too much in the way. Now please stop derailing the thread, else i will just ask a mod to remove your posts. Goodbye.

Not want to crush your dreams, but i'm quite sure it won't be as easy as you wish it to be. :)

Anyway, you're quite contra-productive to your own wish, because it seems that noobs
are the only real argument against it, although personally, i don't see the issue.

There's rather a chance you'll get banned for it, actually.
Depends on how this goes through, if it ever goes through.

And, mind you, it WILL effect suicide gankers more than you want to believe ...
... especially, but not needfully, when combined with a better bounty system ... :)

Translation =

Please let me kill unarmed pods in high sec without repercussion, as I am too scared to go into low sec or null. Plus my KB is terribad and I could use some help.

Believe me I don't have any pre-disposition to side with suicide gankers, it's not something I do.