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Traenador	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:43:00 - [1] Hello, I was just wondering why the dominix needs 325m^3 of drone space. what could possibly take up that much room? the biggest drones i know of only take up 25m^3. How do i make use of this amazing dronespace effectively? "to the east, always to the east, to morrowind. Fear not, for I am whatchful"
Samirol	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:44:00 - [2] because its a ***** drone ship and needs a lot of drones ORE MONGERS**
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:46:00 - [3] Well that's an unexpected question... The Dominix is a drone ship. Therefore it should have a large drone bay. The simple idea behind this is that you can carry multiple groups of drones for various damage types and counter different types of enemy ships more effectively. If you lose a drone, no problem, pop another one out and you're fully operational again. If your current damage type sucks against your target, recall your drones and deploy other ones. If your heavy drones can't hit that stupid frigate, recall them, deploy the light drones and pulverize your problem. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
Traenador	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:54:00 - [4] i guess i can see the point in versatility, but i can only have 5 drones out at one time, max, am i right? "to the east, always to the east, to morrowind. Fear not, for I am whatchful"
Leronis	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:55:00 - [5] Its 375 m¦ Dronebay. As a missionrunner I normally have 5 long range sentry drones ( 125 ) 5 short range sentry drones ( 125 ) 5 medium scout drones ( 50 ) 5 small scout drones ( 25 ) 2 large drones ( 50 ) summary 375 m¦ and I would like it to have way more room ( as it was in the past ) for them.
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:56:00 - [6] Yeah, you can only have 5 drones out but you would need the extra drone space to carry replacement drones. ------------------------- Ten thousand days in the fire...
Traenador	Posted - 2006.06.16 10:00:00 - [7] thats actually really cool. ok, so what do i put on the actuall ship :P? "to the east, always to the east, to morrowind. Fear not, for I am whatchful"
Kel Shek	Posted - 2006.06.16 10:55:00 - [8] on my mission domi (level 4's) I carry: 5 garde's 5 heavy drones of appropriate damage type 5 Hammerhead 2's 5 Vespa 2's 5 T2 light drones usually mixed, depending on enemy type. of course occasionally this is adjusted if a mission needs something unusual, but since I do gallente missions usually this covers it pretty solidly. I would suggest working out your own fittings mostly, with just a few hints... if you understand why you are fitting each thing you'll be able to use it better. 1) Nosferatu = good. 2) keep in mind your drone range. 3) don't underestimate active hardening. 4) be creative, but keep sustainability in mind. 5) don't forget your drones are your main weapon. ~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake
Noluck Ned	Posted - 2006.06.16 11:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Well that's an unexpected question... The Dominix is a drone ship. Therefore it should have a large drone bay. The simple idea behind this is that you can carry multiple groups of drones for various damage types and counter different types of enemy ships more effectively. If you lose a drone, no problem, pop another one out and you're fully operational again. If your current damage type sucks against your target, recall your drones and deploy other ones. If your heavy drones can't hit that stupid frigate, recall them, deploy the light drones and pulverize your problem. What he said...and its 375m3 of space fyi. My mission running loadout is always near the max capacity, this includes 5 sentries and 5 racial heavies, after that I throw in as amny med and light as i want...OH I also stock repper bots.
Nama Saya	Posted - 2006.06.16 11:21:00 - [10] How about this: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/drones/droneupgrades/23527.asp Maybe another way for you to do missions or so.

Saryn Lightyear	Posted - 2006.06.16 11:33:00 - [11] well all I ever needed was 5 heavy drones and 5 light drones (no use for medium drones as heavy and lights covers all enemy ship types). I generally carry around 150 m3 of drones in level 4 missions, but I know my missions well and have the common sense to pick my drones up when theyre getting shot at.
Das Yad	Posted - 2006.06.16 12:25:00 - [12] domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS
Traeon	Posted - 2006.06.16 12:30:00 - [13] Because you can't target and destroy a Raven's missile launchers.
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2006.06.16 12:48:00 - [14] I carry 5 sentries, 3 exp heavies, 3 em heavies, 5 em lights, 5 ex ligths and 2 thermal ehavies. Thta way I can hit big things and small things, both shield and armour tanked and can shoot targets form afar too. Big dronespace FTW. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, and not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
FFGR	Posted - 2006.06.16 12:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Das Yad domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS I think the max (in theory ofc) is about 1300 or 1500DPS (can't remember). _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Meridius	Posted - 2006.06.16 12:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Leronis and I would like it to have way more room ( as it was in the past ) for them. Yeah and i want castor tachs, buhu - _____
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.06.16 13:27:00 - [17] Originally by: Meridius Originally by: Leronis and I would like it to have way more room ( as it was in the past ) for them. Yeah and i want castor tachs, buhu Before or after the patch that made people remove 1400mm Howitzers and fit lasers on their Apocs? New sig coming soonÖ Single dots after a sentence. Line break before beginning a new line of reasoning. Such small things to help people read your post.
Aakron	Posted - 2006.06.16 14:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Das Yad domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS because boo hoo a geddon or blasterthron cant break that dps ..
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.06.16 14:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Das Yad domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS I can do that on my mega and a few other ships to, your point? High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Meridius	Posted - 2006.06.16 14:30:00 - [20] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: Meridius Originally by: Leronis and I would like it to have way more room ( as it was in the past ) for them. Yeah and i want castor tachs, buhu Before or after the patch that made people remove 1400mm Howitzers and fit lasers on their Apocs? Scorps with hax tax ftw \/ - _____

xenodia	Posted - 2006.06.16 15:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Traenador i guess i can see the point in versatility, but i can only have 5 drones out at one time, max, am i right? Before the drone changes, you could have up to 15 out at a time (5 for drones, 5 for drone interfacing, and 5 for gallente BS). But to answer the original question, the Dominix was the "carrier" before carriers were in the game. I LOVE ships with large drone bays. It allows you the flexibility to bring different types of drones for different situations, and with the ability to preassign them to groups, its easy to just kick out the appropriate group of 5 for the situation. You can carry heavies, mediums, armor repair drones, even sentries or vamp drones, all at the same time. The only other ship short of a carrier that comes close to that is the ishtar. Check out my recruiting post here
Stamm	Posted - 2006.06.16 15:55:00 - [22] A 325m3 drone bay is a ship bonus if you ask me.
Laboratus	Posted - 2006.06.16 16:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Das Yad domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS The theoretical DPS with drones is kinda irrelevant, as the drones have to fly to the target (20sec+ to infinity) have crappy stats ( sensor strength 1, short targeting rangle, low hitpoints) and as such can be countered quite easily, ofcourse only if you know what you are doing. At the moment the drones are pretty much a single use weapon system, assuming ofcourse your opponent knows what he is doing, and as such are pretty much the most expensive ammo in the game. Not to mention, you only get 3 reloads on a domi, less in anything else...
Da'Neth	Posted - 2006.06.16 16:20:00 - [24] Originally by: xenodia Originally by: Traenador i guess i can see the point in versatility, but i can only have 5 drones out at one time, max, am i right? Before the drone changes, you could have up to 15 out at a time (5 for drones, 5 for drone interfacing, and 5 for gallente BS). But to answer the original question, the Dominix was the "carrier" before carriers were in the game. I LOVE ships with large drone bays. It allows you the flexibility to bring different types of drones for different situations, and with the ability to preassign them to groups, its easy to just kick out the appropriate group of 5 for the situation. You can carry heavies, mediums, armor repair drones, even sentries or vamp drones, all at the same time. The only other ship short of a carrier that comes close to that is the ishtar. how do you assign groups of drones. as a pilet just stharting to fly the domi I wuld rilly like to know this info. heck it wuld come in handy for my vexor also. thanks for any help ________________________________________________ ^^^^^^^^^^^Stuff I Say^^^^^^^^^^ <<<<<<<<<<<Who I am.
Mobius Timewalker	Posted - 2006.06.16 16:58:00 - [25] [stuff] how do you assign groups of drones. as a pilet just stharting to fly the domi I wuld rilly like to know this info. heck it wuld come in handy for my vexor also. thanks for any help I only yried this in space : Right cvlick on a drone Select move drone select new group - and type in group name you want i think thats it The Cadian Navy is now recuiteing newbies and non-pvp characters alike Send an in game email for more details
Chalan Galadriel	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:54:00 - [26] Its true about the reloads, but with T2 heavys most battleships struggle to take them down, it takes an uber Raven about 2 salvos to get one T2 Ogre into structure. Keep an eye on your drones health, and as soon as you see it taking damage, recall it and launch another one, forcing the opponent to re-lock another drone, its possible to never lose a drone if your careful. Its also wonderful to see how irritated they become when they keep losing the target :P The biggest threat for heavy drones is light drones, and to fight light drones you need light drones yourself as heavys take a long time to kill them off.
Hub Quantum	Posted - 2006.06.18 02:16:00 - [27] Edited by: Hub Quantum on 18/06/2006 02:17:55 Edited by: Hub Quantum on 18/06/2006 02:17:30 Originally by: Das Yad domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS Cool theorycraft! To keep that number as unrealistic as possible and pwning the charts in quickfit: Make sure he doesn't add in the dead time it takes your ogres to travel the say 20-40km to the BS (Not exactly a long range, most BSes are going to be way out past that, but watching the heavies travel it you'd sure as heck think it is.) and then make sure he doesn't add in the DPS of after the primary is destroyed the drones moving another 20-40km to a new primary. Also MAKE SURE he doesn't include the fact that if there is an ishkur or light drone ship there your heavies will be dead before they even arrive at the target otherwise your numbers will be way messed up and way too realistic to something resembling the actual game.
jamesw	Posted - 2006.06.19 01:32:00 - [28] Edited by: jamesw on 19/06/2006 01:31:52 Originally by: Hub Quantum Edited by: Hub Quantum on 18/06/2006 02:17:55 Edited by: Hub Quantum on 18/06/2006 02:17:30 Originally by: Das Yad domi needs nerfing >.> with a certain setup with t2 goodness a corp mate worked out you could kick out over 1000 DPS Cool theorycraft! To keep that number as unrealistic as possible and pwning the charts in quickfit: Make sure he doesn't add in the dead time it takes your ogres to travel the say 20-40km to the BS (Not exactly a long range, most BSes are going to be way out past that, but watching the heavies travel it you'd sure as heck think it is.) and then make sure he doesn't add in the DPS of after the primary is destroyed the drones moving another 20-40km to a new primary. Also MAKE SURE he doesn't include the fact that if there is an ishkur or light drone ship there your heavies will be dead before they even arrive at the target otherwise your numbers will be way messed up and way too realistic to something resembling the actual game. Dude, get real! DPS IS theory craft!... wth does an meddlesome little ishkur have to do with it. thats like saying "OMG megathron dps sucks because it might get jammed if there happens to be a blackbird, rook, scorpion or falcon there, or if the enemy uses ECM DRONES!!11one OMGZOR!!".. "Tach Apocalypse DPS Sucks because the target might be too close/too fast!!!!111" DPS is, was, and always will be a theoretical measurement. DPS is measured on structure, where 95% of fighting DOESNT take place. It doesnt take into account range, targetting time, transversal velocity, flight time, speed, or capacitor usage. In fact DPS doesnt take into account about 95% of factors in fighting, because there are so many damn variables. What it DOES do, is provide a level playing field to measure the potential of a ship, if it is piloted well. 1000dps is a very realistic figure for DPS on a domi. It can be achieved with a balanced setup and is very viable in PvP. For Quickfit Whring and random unviable setup stats, try a 6 neutron II gank domi at 1389dps. -- NEW* Vid: Watch Things Die
Arthur McFredric	Posted - 2006.06.19 02:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Samirol because its a ******* drone ship and needs a lot of drones made me laugh
Dionin	Posted - 2006.06.19 03:02:00 - [30] Originally by: Da'Neth how do you assign groups of drones. as a pilet just stharting to fly the domi I wuld rilly like to know this info. heck it wuld come in handy for my vexor also. thanks for any help While the drones are in the bay, right click a drone or pile of drones, right click for the menu to add them to groups, or to make a new group. I fly support, so I have groups setup: [Sentry] - 5 Sentry drones [Medium] - 5 Vespa II's [Shield] - 5 Heavy Shield Maintenance bots [Armor] - 3 Heavy Armor Repair bots Can then click the group name and launch/recall/attack with them all at one.



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