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chiq Mech
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:18:00 -
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...a quiet place to live as a solo player?
So far I've tried
1. A carebear corp in Highsec: infinitely dull, mission running and highsec mining - and that's when people are online
2. A corp in one of the giant alliances, living in null: great guys, but I'm not a fan of teamspeak and I didn't really care enough about sovereignty squabbles to get involved in fleets. Plus too many rules and restrictions
3. A small rental corp in null who promised me a quiet life only to discover they had to keep moving homebases because they were being forced to pay protection money. Again, great guys - but a bit stuck really as they can't do anything without fleeting up (which is a pain if you are the only one online).
4. I've also tried living in the null pirate regions. I love those regions but they are controlled by small pirate corps and I can't budge an inch without being followed/bubbled/ganked etc. When playing solo I can't retaliate - well not with my skills anyway.
I'm plexing 3 chars, but all are fairly new. I want to manufacture/mine/explore and when I have the skills and ships do some combat anoms.
I know this flies in the face of core pvp values - but I'd just love a few quiet systems where I can log in for a few hours, do my stuff and log out.
Is this possible? Or am I asking too much? Genuine questions, if anyone has tips please share. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
459
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:31:00 -
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What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?
Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play. |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
125
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:33:00 -
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chiq Mech wrote:Or am I asking too much? Yes
However, depending on what you want to do solo there are plenty of options out there, keeping in mind of course playing "solo" doesn't preclude others from interacting with you, whether you like it or not. |
Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok Circle-Of-Two
17
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:40:00 -
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Use DOTLAN to find a remote, quiet lowsec system, drag BPO's with you to make your stuff and mine your own minerals, rat for isk and modules to build ghetto ships with (Or refine for more minerals ), and build dessies to do PvP in!
Definately possible if you like this type of alone gameplay. "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
610
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:44:00 -
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CCP finds solo players don't stay - so leave now. CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
653
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:49:00 -
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chiq Mech wrote:...a quiet place to live as a solo player?
So far I've tried
1. A carebear corp in Highsec: infinitely dull, mission running and highsec mining - and that's when people are online
2. A corp in one of the giant alliances, living in null: great guys, but I'm not a fan of teamspeak and I didn't really care enough about sovereignty squabbles to get involved in fleets. Plus too many rules and restrictions
3. A small rental corp in null who promised me a quiet life only to discover they had to keep moving homebases because they were being forced to pay protection money. Again, great guys - but a bit stuck really as they can't do anything without fleeting up (which is a pain if you are the only one online).
4. I've also tried living in the null pirate regions. I love those regions but they are controlled by small pirate corps and I can't budge an inch without being followed/bubbled/ganked etc. When playing solo I can't retaliate - well not with my skills anyway.
I'm plexing 3 chars, but all are fairly new. I want to manufacture/mine/explore and when I have the skills and ships do some combat anoms.
I know this flies in the face of core pvp values - but I'd just love a few quiet systems where I can log in for a few hours, do my stuff and log out.
Is this possible? Or am I asking too much? Genuine questions, if anyone has tips please share.
a class 1 wh will give you solo play options, you will get pvp chances, pve, mining, exploring, raiding.. etc. be warned, if you solo a wh there is a higher chances of getting booted. but it can be a good place to fiddle fart around 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Marsha Mallow
1098
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:50:00 -
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chiq Mech wrote:I'm plexing 3 chars, but all are fairly new. I want to manufacture/mine/explore and when I have the skills and ships do some combat anoms.
I know this flies in the face of core pvp values - but I'd just love a few quiet systems where I can log in for a few hours, do my stuff and log out.
Is this possible? Or am I asking too much? Genuine questions, if anyone has tips please share. Those activities kind of tie in with wormhole living (altho Netan's suggestion works too, there are quiet lowsec pockets). Try find a small WH corp to start then perhaps strike out on your own once you understand the mechanics. There will always be some degree of interraction, just shrug it off and move on when things don't go your way. You may find yourself evicted from a WH for example, but if you've lived in it for a few weeks/months you've had the benefit. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14516
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:55:00 -
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There are plenty of empty systems out in NPC null where one can make a living and be alone if one wishes.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Serene Repose
1391
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:01:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote: ...and build dessies to do PvP in! Ahar! gank gank "PvP" *riotous laughter*
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Greeneggs N'Ham
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:19:00 -
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1. As I understand it, mining is only a solo activity in highsec. If mining is something you want to pursue outside of highsec, maybe a C1 wormhole will suffice, but you'll obviously be hunted there too.
2. Solo manufacturing is best done in highsec, for the most part, and for obvious logistical reasons.
3. Exploration doesn't require more than one character really, perhaps two gives you the firepower to run any combat sites you find while not neding to refit from the hack/analyzer setup on your scanning char. Obviously, you can explore anywhere.
Currently I do a lot of soloing. I left a corp that based out of a lowsec border system because they were a newbie-centric crowd that seemed to be forever "about to do something," and never actually got around to it. Presently I base myself out of a deep and sleepy lowsec system and make periodical jump-clone trips back to dodixie to sell the goods I have shipped their by a third-party transport service. This cuts into my profits a little, but I still make good isk. I should mention that I only build small amounts of stuff and the majority of my wares come from trading (eg. buy orders for regional stuffs I found plentiful) and PI, which I do without much fuss.
Personally, I find mining to be a special kind of boring and tedious. If you want to keep pursuing it, to each his own, but I would reccomend ditching the rock-sucker and focusing your attention on exploration, trade, pi, and other solo-friendly do-anywhere activities. Perhaps you can put the miner to use by flying a venture or expedition mining frigate as a gas-site assist and scout.
In any event, I reccoment the sleepier systems of lowsec as far as good locations go for solo pilots. Traffic is minimal, being camped into station is rare, exploration and PI are fairly lucrative, and you can pretty much count on having something or other to do without worrying over politics (though you should take some care not to **** off local pirates too much as they'll be the ones who make your life miserable if they are so inclined). Aside from an early run-in with some unpleasant Russians, I haven't lost a non-pvp ship in weeks. |
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Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok Circle-Of-Two
18
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:21:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:There are plenty of empty systems out in NPC null where one can make a living and be alone if one wishes.
I wouldn't suggest Syndicate if you choose the NPC null route, logistics is a PITA and is basically owned by gangs and EvE UNI there. "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Captain Aaron Sheffield
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:27:00 -
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I realize that you said you didn't like Teamspeak but my recommendation requires it. There are a bunch of small corps located in the Drone regions of Null. Those areas controlled by the BOT alliance which rents systems to corps. There are some very nice low key folks out there who do a lot of mining/manufacturing, etc. You will have to learn to defend yourself and/or run as needed.
That being said, most of my efforts to enjoy Eve truly solo have failed as they should. The best experiences of this game are with others. |
chiq Mech
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:34:00 -
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Thanks for your suggestions guys, much appreciated.
I'll try them all out and see what happens..I'm always up for new ideas.
For those who mention whether or not I'm happy interacting: well, it's not that I'm anti-social, quite the opposite. I'm very friendly, chatty etc and I even try to banter with pirates when cloaked/followed (I find this is a 50/50 thing, some are friendly, some are always silent).
I'm just experimenting with various gamestyles and because I haven't really found a niche yet, and had no luck with corps, I thought I'd try soloing it for a bit. I've got nothing against corps and I'm happy to work with people. But...and I know you'll laugh (quite rightly) but pvp tends to get in the way :) as an example - I bought my first tengu using all my isk and after skilling for it for 50 days or so, and I lost it within an hour in what I considered to be a very quiet system - I didn't know about cynos or how they worked. there'd been a neut in the system for a week but he hadn't done anything so I risked an anom. And the next thing 3 ships pop from nowhere and kick my ass. Well, lesson learned. This is Eve - I know that. But, how was I to continue working in that system with the neut there all the time? Impossible. And its no fun sitting in a station waiting for him to leave. And anyway I couldn't afford to replace my ship (another lesson learned - the no flying ships you can't afford to lose rule).
For now at least I want to develop my manufacturer in time for the next expansion, do relics, some mining and ratting and grow some capital. Then maybe find a small nullsec corp that is actively involved in the game and helps when corp mates are in trouble (and vice versa of course). So that's why I'm playing solo for now.
Anyway, I digress. Thanks for the tips |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
386
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:45:00 -
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chiq Mech wrote:...a quiet place to live as a solo player?
You can always try W-Space. Weeks could pass before you see another living soul in your particular system. Just one tip: if you meet someone there and you don't speak his language, name him Friday and accept him at your POS. Trust me, he will save your pod one day.
Seriously tho, if you are really looking for a tight smaller group of players with manufacturing/mining/exploring and doing combat anoms, W-Space is perfect for you.
1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279 |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1897
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:50:00 -
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NPC Nullsec or W-Space.
Syndicate for example has quiet, off main route systems just a few jumps from highsec. It offers everything you've outlined. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
45
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:53:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?
Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play.
EvE is also a sandbox game, which means EVERY playstyle is just as valid as every other playstyle. You come across as the typical EvE-ite: "Play how you like as long as you play the way I say." I agree it will never be balanced around solo play, and so it shouldn't be but that is no reason to dismiss the OPs playstyle.
@OP: There are a few corps around Providence (I think it is called) that hang out in 0.0, you don't have to be sat on vent talking though listening is probably a good thing because that is where sentries will be telling you were the attacks are coming from giving you the choice of heading for a station or fighting it out.
Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
706
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:53:00 -
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I'm recommend an quiet low sec system 10 jumps or so from a trade hub. Depending on where this is, it can give you access to null sec for exploration or other activities there, fairly safe industrial capabilities in low, and easy access to high sec trade. Low sec also received an increase in wormhole connections recently, so its easy to travel around if you like scanning, and the combat exploration sites are easily solo-able. Picking a system outside of faction warfare space will prevent you from having to deal with too much unwanted attention, but having it relatively near by can be good for getting some action. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Sturmwolke
588
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Posted - 2014.06.18 22:17:00 -
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Solitude or highsec pockets like the Enka constellation etc. Peace and quiet (relatively ofc). |
ElQuirko
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
3328
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Posted - 2014.06.18 22:22:00 -
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FW lowsec tends to be good if you stay away from the areas of intense fighting. Dodixie > Hek |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8205
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Posted - 2014.06.18 22:49:00 -
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You didn't mention ever operating from a highsec island, might be something in that for you. Including a little more challenge to logistics, yet while being quieter than highsec contiguity. |
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chiq Mech
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.06.18 23:07:00 -
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Webvan wrote:You didn't mention ever operating from a highsec island, might be something in that for you. Including a little more challenge to logistics, yet while being quieter than highsec contiguity.
No, I hadn't thought about that. Good tip. i'll give that a whirl first before trying the other suggestions. Thanks |
Rear Admiral Blasto
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.06.19 00:09:00 -
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I live in a C2 WH and there is a good mix of whatever it is you are looking for.... I tend to be on at odd hours and go from being able to join corps mates for PVP, to logging on and being the only one online. I have adapted to do both solo and group activities.
There is always a LS and/or HS available, but find the LS connections provide the most solo opportunities. For solo work with a few alts, (as you seem to have) mining in a WH is very possible, site running as well. But as mentioned, the LS connections provide ratting, mining, sites, exploration, gas and you will always find a new connection after a few min if the first one you find is no good for what you are after. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
460
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Posted - 2014.06.19 01:12:00 -
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Domina Trix wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?
Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play. EvE is also a sandbox game, which means EVERY playstyle is just as valid as every other playstyle. You come across as the typical EvE-ite: "Play how you like as long as you play the way I say." I agree it will never be balanced around solo play, and so it shouldn't be but that is no reason to dismiss the OPs playstyle.
I never said the playstyle wasn't valid. I'm a solo player 90% of the time. Whether you like it or not, eve is not a solo game. You can play solo as much as you want, but that won't stop other players from bothering you. That is a fact the OP, and you, need to deal with. |
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
50
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Posted - 2014.06.19 05:56:00 -
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Webvan wrote:operating from a highsec island
That's what I'm doing too: my assets are stored in the relative safety of a HS constellation where I'm oftentimes the only one in local thanks to being surrounded by strings of low and null systems, while most of my actual activity happens in said low or null systems. |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
127
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:51:00 -
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ELQuirko wrote:FW lowsec tends to be good if you stay away from the areas of intense fighting. There's a lot of truth in this statement, many of the areas that aren't highly contested are actually pretty quiet. You won't be alone per se, as there is a lot of farmers in these quiet areas (for the very reason that they are quiet.) You definately need to be on your toes because roaming pirates will venture along these unbeaten paths looking for the careless pilots that reside here. |
Marc Durant
22
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:54:00 -
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Living in a C1 works just fine solo. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5489
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:56:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:Living in a C1 works just fine solo.
Yup, you'll do well stopping those 14-man Corp invasions on your own "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Marc Durant
22
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Posted - 2014.06.19 09:05:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Marc Durant wrote:Living in a C1 works just fine solo. Yup, you'll do well stopping those 14-man Corp invasions on your own
Yes. That will happen every time, obviously.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5489
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Posted - 2014.06.19 09:15:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Marc Durant wrote:Living in a C1 works just fine solo. Yup, you'll do well stopping those 14-man Corp invasions on your own Yes. That will happen every time, obviously.
Yes, it does.
Obviously. "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
46
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Posted - 2014.06.19 10:12:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:Domina Trix wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?
Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play. EvE is also a sandbox game, which means EVERY playstyle is just as valid as every other playstyle. You come across as the typical EvE-ite: "Play how you like as long as you play the way I say." I agree it will never be balanced around solo play, and so it shouldn't be but that is no reason to dismiss the OPs playstyle. I never said the playstyle wasn't valid. I'm a solo player 90% of the time. Whether you like it or not, eve is not a solo game. You can play solo as much as you want, but that won't stop other players from bothering you. That is a fact the OP, and you, need to deal with.
I see you selectively cut off the part where I said the game should NOT be balanced around solo playstyles then. Where did I say other players bothering me was a problem? I've been ganked before and if you look at the post history considered it a part of the game and learned from it as should every one.
Twerps that think that killing a mining barge is a big pvp achievement are just a part of this game as anyone else.
Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |
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