When a new thread on that subject is created it is locked and Linked back ... to a thread that is also locked....

How can any new discussion be held on that subject then?

INB4LOCKED!

These threads have been around since cloaking and local have. Years of discussion have hashed out pretty much every idea there is.

However, if you wish to submit a discussion revamping the ENTIRE intel line gathering system some people (including me) might be interested. However there will still be trolls and it is likely to be locked.

No I am,posting this because I liked the emp,like effect idea posted on a recent thread that just got locked before I had a chance to give it my +1
I understand the subject has been probably hashed to death all,ideas about ark cloaking , including this emp effect, have been already put out there..

What I do not understand is where we can discuss the fact that ark cloaking is bad for the game, independently of any proposed solutions.

Is there is a clear consensus amongst the community that in fact ark cloaking is ok, and as such not to be discussed anymore and must and will remain a full part of the game forever.?

This is not the impression I get though,but may be I am wrong.

Fundamentally ark cloaking prevents players from playing the game by players that are not playing the game, and are just logged in to hinder gameplay.
How is his a Goodall fun game design for all?

No I am,posting this because I liked the emp,like effect idea posted on a recent thread that just got locked before I had a chance to give it my +1
I understand the subject has been probably hashed to death all,ideas about ark cloaking , including this emp effect, have been already put out there..

What I do not understand is where we can discuss the fact that ark cloaking is bad for the game, independently of any proposed solutions.

Is there is a clear consensus amongst the community that in fact ark cloaking is ok, and as such not to be discussed anymore and must and will remain a full part of the game forever.?

This is not the impression I get though,but may be I am wrong.

Fundamentally ark cloaking prevents players from playing the game by players that are not playing the game, and are just logged in to hinder gameplay.
How is his a Goodall fun game design for all?

CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.
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I like your sig

One question to ramp me up to snuff on this subject...
How does afk cloaking creates content, from CCP point of view?

I didn't write that.

I believe the CCP position on the subject is that an AFK Cloaked pilot has never killed anyone. So therefore it's not a problem. I doubt your post will make any substantial difference to that.

If you'd like to see a post detailing how AFK cloaking threads generally trend you should check my signature out.

Edit: Also I forgot to mention, but the rules do state that it's forbidden to discuss moderation decisions. Just a heads up.

Cloak, cycle smartbombs as someone lands nearby in a flimsy ship, go afk? heh

The solution is to get rid of local.

That won't solve the problem never has, even in WH's it only made things take one more step.

Stop this suggestion seriously.

I have never seen a wormhole resident complain about afk cloaking and we get a long fine without local. There are even carebears in wormholes as well. So clearly a lack of instant cook microwavable intel doesn't actually damage things.

You also can't cyno people in to hotdrop in WH's which is why they don't have that problem.

There is no more Cloaky T3 campers anymore, it's just hotdroppers, nothing more.

So your conclusions here are wrong.

But hotdropping is also helped greatly by local. So he is correct.

An AFK cloaker never prevented anyone from playing the game. However, people do consistently choose to not play the game because of how they perceive the AFK cloaker.

People who hide from the bogeyman are their own worst enemy.

If something pops up and interrupts me while I'm playing Eve, I'll cloak up and park anywhere while I deal with the distraction. If I happen to take a peek and see the locals shipping up and hunting me, I'll give them a wink in local and move on because they are actively playing the game and I respect their time. If I pop in somewhere and everybody runs and hides even though any one of them could solo me, I'm going to stick around a while and let their shame sink bone-deep.

When a new thread on that subject is created it is locked and linked to a thread that is also locked....
Edit: removed the actual link for forum compliance

How can any new discussion be held on that subject then?

The last few posts rehash things already discussed in previous posts, where people agree to disagree. There are clearly various strong opinions about afk cloaking..

My point in that thread is not to discuss solutions like say get rid of local, or implement an emp type decloaking burst, or any other previously suggered "solutions"

I d like someone to tell me why CCP considers that AFK clockers generates content, as it seems that they may have explained before..
Is that true? And if yes, how afk cloakers generate content?

Posting links to locked threads is against forum rules, which is why I edited my opening post.

You also can't cyno people in to hotdrop in WH's which is why they don't have that problem.

There is no more Cloaky T3 campers anymore, it's just hotdroppers, nothing more.

So your conclusions here are wrong.

Ditto, Ezwal is on a roll this week. Let's see how fast he gets this one.