Clara Pond wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:My counter to this is, I don't care about control as much as I care about influence. That's because your control is very limited, so much so that I can still mine in CODE Ice belts, I can successfully send a freighter through Aufay, and more. You don't control **** in highsec, but only yield various degrees of influence.
Sir, you are posting about oranges in a thread about apples. Please create your own thread if you would like to propose recognition of bot-aspirant activities. You are detracting from the purpose of the CSM.
Furthermore, this is not the place for chestbeating about your opinion of CODE. You could try C&P for that. And I look forward to seeing your freighter in Aufay.
I was using CODE as an example, not attempting to chest beat about the organization. I just used them because of their name in the thread immediately brought their examples to mind. Non-CODE example, I know pilots that ran courier missions through Jita all weekend during Burn Jita events. My point is that "control" in highsec is a misnomer, as the game mechanics provide lots of tools and workarounds to circumvent control. This is especially true in highsec.
To quote you: "This is similar to RL where a particular "hood" might technically fall under a city municipality, but local power is practically concentrated in a gang, family, club or social network."
In "civilized" areas, the local power wields control not by combat, but by other means. A politician might deny building permits, the business monopoly might undermine other businesses attempting to form. In EvE, the local Industrial power might use all the MFG slots in the area. Another group may control towers on all the moons. Someone else may own all the POCO's. Another group might mine all the roids every morning. Suicide ganking freighters and miners is simply one aspect of this.
To put it another way.... You might suicide gank 10 freighters a day in Aufay, but redfrog sends 500 more successfully through during that time frame (against your desires). Who is winning the control race there? If you only measure it by PvP, your "dominating" redfrog, but perhaps their business is successful enough that they can write off those freighters as a business expense, and will continue to operate without difficulties (or perhaps you don't successfully gank Redfrog freights because they circumvent your ganks using web-to-warp).
If all you want is a PvP-activity map, that's fine, but it is nothing like FW or Nullsec Sov influence.