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Nakami Saans
Perkone
Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:08:00 -
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I'm looking for your viewpoints on Genetic Engineering/Modification on humans.
My partner and I got into a debate about genetically modifying mentally and/or emotionally handicapped individuals.
He is a special education teacher and is fervently against genetic modification of said individuals. He, however, has no problem with using genetic modification to correct for physical deformities. His argument stems from his view that if you were to correct for mental and/or emotional handicap, you change the person or the "soul", if you will.
I am for genetic modification. My view is everybody should have an equal capacity to learn. I also see how we, as a country, treat our disabled. It's horrendous. I used to look down on all of the homeless people in my area but I began to see a pattern of mental instability in the individuals that came through the area. Another, more socialist, view on the subject is that by correcting the handicap we will give them the ability to become a productive member of society.
Please give me your views on the subject and if debate ensues, please keep it civil. Thanks!
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
1398
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:52:00 -
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hmm...who decides who gets modified, though?
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1753
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:00:00 -
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Brain cells and boob cells are all cells. The best question I heard about a soul is: If I looked at a human body to find a soul, and looked at everything in it.. how would I know I've found a soul? Good luck, giving me an answer.
Is your ability (or inability) to do math part of your personality? What about not being able to walk, or missing an arm? Wouldn't restoring those functions also change your personality?
I think what your partner means is the degree to which a personality change would occur. Curing a physical deformity would have a significant effect on me, but maybe not as far reaching as if you made me a thousand times smarter.
But if I were missing my legs, would I not want legs to walk with? If I couldn't function socially, wouldn't I want something that would allow me to enjoy that kind of thing?
I would think the answer would be 'yes' in both cases.. personality be damned. After all, this "person" i'm so attached to may be responsible for causing me a lot of misery, too.
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
442
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:11:00 -
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Watch out, or you'll become a Jovian 
In all seriousness though, I'm all for it- anyone who would consent and want it could have a lot of things fixed if all goes well- all new things have to overcome opposition before they're widespread and accepted.
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest;
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains;
But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1753
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:16:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:In all seriousness though, I'm all for it- anyone who would consent and want it could have a lot of things fixed if all goes well- all new things have to overcome opposition before they're widespread and accepted.
But how would a mentally handicapped person consent? There are some who cannot, or need a proxy for consent..
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
442
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:18:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:In all seriousness though, I'm all for it- anyone who would consent and want it could have a lot of things fixed if all goes well- all new things have to overcome opposition before they're widespread and accepted. But how would a mentally handicapped person consent? There are some who cannot, or need a proxy for consent..
Well there's that too- and in that case, I'd be fine with it too. I just think it's a potentially helpful thing that could make the lives of a lot of people better.
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest;
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains;
But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
Nakami Saans
Perkone
Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:31:00 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:hmm...who decides who gets modified, though?
For me, I think that would be a "pro choice" decision, which would be another topic for another day 
Rainbow Worrior of EVE...well...maybe worrior is too strong a word.-á I like to site see ^.^
Would like to make connections with other LGBT players, possibly a corp
Please help me with my Philosophy Final! |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
1399
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:01:00 -
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Ok.
Interesting thing to think about. o7
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8265
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:38:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Watch out, or you'll become a Jovian
Pretty much, actually.
We do genetically modify organisms, but so far it has just been failure with HUGE promises... even during the collapse. Sort of like Baghdad Bob, completely oblivious to what is actually going on. It's like monkeys playing in the mud, it's not going to happen anytime soon, and we will probably completely destroy our existing food supply through the failure of genetic modification that it won't matter if we could ever get to the point of actually understanding it; the human race will have long since passed away before then due to our stupidity of letting idiots mess with genetic manipulation.
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Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services
CAStabouts
144
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Posted - 2014.06.20 12:04:00 -
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Fun With Genetics (Berlin, 1939)
Chapter One: Round up all the Jews. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1584
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Posted - 2014.06.20 12:30:00 -
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Although I believe the OP is trying to have a genuine discussion on the subject, a topic like this will most definitely lead to a less pleasant discussion involving politics and less ethical viewpoints. One example of the latter has already been removed.
As such, I have decided to close this thread.
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