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Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2014.06.23 03:36:00 -
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As I'm sure everyone is aware, the new Proc/Skiff changes are pretty nifty.
But first some Sample Fits
Procurer:
Low's -Damage Control II -Drone Damage Amplifier II
Mid's - 2x Adaptive Invuln II's -Warp Disrupter -Shield Booster/extender(booster helps a little for hero tanking or to recharge sheilds after large rat spawns)
High -Nuet or Mining Laser.
Drones- 1 Flight 5x Warrior II's 1 Flight 5x What ever light II's(I like Acolytes)
Rig's- 2x Core feild extenders 1x EM hardener
For a Skiff Simply ad a 1mn MWD or 10mn AB, or a web for mids, or for rediculous tank a MSE
In the lows another damage amp or Idunno anything but a warp stab, it doesn't help.
According to EFT you sit around 100k EHP in the Skiff and almost 70k in the Proc.
251 dps in Skiff(with medium drones) 150 in Proc
Things to do: Fight Battle Ship Rats anywhere Kill Interceptor Pilots too dumb to warp out or notice point. Kill Cruiser Pilots too dumb to Warp out or unable to burn away from you Kill a Bad BC pilot Not give a **** about anything, because you are a Brick; However you still can die horribly to an Ishtar gang.
My KB stats may be horrible but is a fairly good indicator of how good new changes are. |

Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
12
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Posted - 2014.06.23 04:14:00 -
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Fleet Ratting and Shenanigans:For Testing
Same Fit but squeeze on a Medium Repper or Transporter, and maybe a Energy transfer.
Fleet of 4 in theory can run Haven/Sanctums with a fair bit of success, standard Drone ratting Mechanics.
Skiffs can probably fair a lot better with medium drones and if I'm right can do 10/10's with proper resistances for the site.
a 4 man Skiff crew has around 1k dps and enough spider tank to do pretty much what ever they want, PVP aside.
PVP Procurer Crew:
Nuet/vampire in the highs
Web scram/disrupt, Invuln feild and MWD/AB
Drone Amp and DCU.
One flight of fight drones one of logi drones, promotes best results and saves lives.
Skiffs are a little pricey for that level of PVP given they cost as much as a battleship or a good T2 BC/Cruiser |

Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.23 07:14:00 -
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Wasn't new before buffs, why should be now, especially with procurer getting sexy 160m/s speed instead of old 80? |

Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
12
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Posted - 2014.06.23 07:20:00 -
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge wrote:Wasn't new before buffs, why should be now, especially with procurer getting sexy 160m/s speed instead of old 80?
Primarily DPS required and speed of completion.
Old DPS vs New DPS is staggeringly different enough that you can shave a lot of time on clear, as well as the fact that drones kind of do things now.
Also if you are fighting a BC/Cruiser in a belt to the death DPS gives you a better survival margin. |

flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2276
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Posted - 2014.06.23 10:08:00 -
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Smugest Sniper wrote:
My KB stats may be horrible but is a fairly good indicator of how good new changes are.
Might be me but i can't find any solo kills you did with it ... linkie to a solo fight ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Marsan
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:54:00 -
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I've been toying with a fit like these to run combat sites in LS. With the drone set to aggressive you can pack a couple of warp stabs in the lows, and not worry about the targeting delays. Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community. |

Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
13
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Posted - 2014.06.23 20:48:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Smugest Sniper wrote:
My KB stats may be horrible but is a fairly good indicator of how good new changes are.
Might be me but i can't find any solo kills you did with it ... linkie to a solo fight ?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23969194
vOv |

Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2014.06.23 21:54:00 -
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Trying to brawl it out solo against something with a baseline of 50k EHP and two flights of bonused light drones in anything smaller than a Cruiser is a great way of announcing that you skim read patch notes. |

Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
13
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Posted - 2014.06.24 04:41:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Trying to brawl it out solo against something with a baseline of 50k EHP and two flights of bonused light drones in anything smaller than a Cruiser is a great way of announcing that you skim read patch notes.
I fight Interceptors with it too but yes, Even a Fleet stabber almost died to me but I couldn't keep my point on him long enough ;_; |

PhatController
Mum Rider Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 11:58:00 -
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Smugest Sniper wrote:Fleet Ratting and Shenanigans:For Testing
Same Fit but squeeze on a Medium Repper or Transporter, and maybe a Energy transfer.
Fleet of 4 in theory can run Haven/Sanctums with a fair bit of success, standard Drone ratting Mechanics.
Skiffs can probably fair a lot better with medium drones and if I'm right can do 10/10's with proper resistances for the site.
a 4 man Skiff crew has around 1k dps and enough spider tank to do pretty much what ever they want, PVP aside.
PVP Procurer Crew:
Nuet/vampire in the highs
Web scram/disrupt, Invuln feild and MWD/AB
Drone Amp and DCU.
One flight of fight drones one of logi drones, promotes best results and saves lives.
Skiffs are a little pricey for that level of PVP given they cost as much as a battleship or a good T2 BC/Cruiser
But why? For the same ISK you can clear them just as fast with a single account. |

Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
14
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:02:00 -
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PhatController wrote:Smugest Sniper wrote:Fleet Ratting and Shenanigans:For Testing
Same Fit but squeeze on a Medium Repper or Transporter, and maybe a Energy transfer.
Fleet of 4 in theory can run Haven/Sanctums with a fair bit of success, standard Drone ratting Mechanics.
Skiffs can probably fair a lot better with medium drones and if I'm right can do 10/10's with proper resistances for the site.
a 4 man Skiff crew has around 1k dps and enough spider tank to do pretty much what ever they want, PVP aside.
PVP Procurer Crew:
Nuet/vampire in the highs
Web scram/disrupt, Invuln feild and MWD/AB
Drone Amp and DCU.
One flight of fight drones one of logi drones, promotes best results and saves lives.
Skiffs are a little pricey for that level of PVP given they cost as much as a battleship or a good T2 BC/Cruiser But why? For the same ISK you can clear them just as fast with a single account.
Who said anything about multi-boxing? do it with friends and corp mates who are poor.
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Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
19
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Posted - 2014.06.30 16:37:00 -
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Marsan wrote:I've been toying with a fit like these to run combat sites in LS. With the drone set to aggressive you can pack a couple of warp stabs in the lows, and not worry about the targeting delays.
That sounds like a terribly inefficient way to run any legit combat site. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2341
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Posted - 2014.06.30 16:53:00 -
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Smugest Sniper wrote:flakeys wrote:Smugest Sniper wrote:
My KB stats may be horrible but is a fairly good indicator of how good new changes are.
Might be me but i can't find any solo kills you did with it ... linkie to a solo fight ? vOv this made me giggle "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

elitatwo
Congregatio
255
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:43:00 -
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Mining Barges and the Dumb things you can do with them...
I like this title and you know what else you can do with those?
Mine! signature |

Smugest Sniper
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:13:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:Mining Barges and the Dumb things you can do with them...
I like this title and you know what else you can do with those?
Mine!
But, :eng99:
while true and kind of their entire purpose please do not derail thread with such things as it's not fun as killing people who try and kill you. |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
21
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Posted - 2014.07.01 13:42:00 -
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Dont understand why barges have so much tank anyway |

Logan PewPew
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2014.07.01 15:43:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Dont understand why barges have so much tank anyway
It's only the Procurer/Skiff that have alot of tank all the other barges and their exhumer variants can be taken out by a single T2 fit catalyst, maybe 2.
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Smugest Sniper
Salient Logistics Inc. Northern Associates.
20
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Posted - 2014.07.12 09:24:00 -
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Logan PewPew wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Dont understand why barges have so much tank anyway It's only the Procurer/Skiff that have alot of tank all the other barges and their exhumer variants can be taken out by a single T2 fit catalyst, maybe 2. Pretty much this, Also, don't try and fight an ishtar gang with procurer hulls, doesn't work.  |
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