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Dex Torius
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Posted - 2006.06.20 00:26:00 -
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"Racial differences" means the pilot uses the ships of his race, the environment being either solo NPC ratting or solo mission running, whichever you think gives more ISK. I'm particularly interested if there are any notable differences between Gallente and Caldari in this respect, though info on the other races would be appreciated too.
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Pan Zhu'Liang
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Posted - 2006.06.20 05:51:00 -
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drones are a pain for pve. whereas missiles have the advantage of being able to adjust to the rats you're fighting. so i'd say caldari is better for pve purposes. i really doubt it makes much difference though.
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Shandling
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Posted - 2006.06.20 06:42:00 -
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Caldari is easiest PVE race. Missiles can hit 100% at either max or min range, no worrying about tracking. The do any type of damage.
Race means little though, all that matters is the ships you're flying. You can be Minmatar and fly all Amarr, or be Caldari and fly all Gallante. No restriction or bonus from your starting race besides your attributes and your starting skills (which equals very little training anyway)
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2006.06.20 07:08:00 -
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as long as you stay in your home region you will allways find/get the rats your race does the most dmg to. so minmatars get angels (explosive weakness) ammar sansha/bloodraider,...
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Raider Zero
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Posted - 2006.06.21 21:34:00 -
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Missiles do hit all the time, except for that little thing called defenders. Caldari are shield tankers, and Gallente are armor. The damage type and tanking are the main differences-completely different styles of flying, but I'm not sure if one or the other is better.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.06.21 22:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Dex Torius
"Racial differences" means the pilot uses the ships of his race, the environment being either solo NPC ratting or solo mission running, whichever you think gives more ISK. I'm particularly interested if there are any notable differences between Gallente and Caldari in this respect, though info on the other races would be appreciated too.
just to be 100% clear so theres no mistake.
there is no in-game mechanic that gives you ANY improvement for using ships of the same race of the character.
any character can train any skill (a few exceptions, but those don't matter because genrally they don't work, and are birth only)
and 2 characters of opposing faction races, with identical skills can fly the same ships identically(well, as far as the character goes)
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drones are a pain for pve. whereas missiles have the advantage of being able to adjust to the rats you're fighting. so i'd say caldari is better for pve purposes. i really doubt it makes much difference though.
umm, no? drones can be switched for appropriate damage type as well... and are wonderful for PvE if used right.
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Dex Torius
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Posted - 2006.06.21 23:07:00 -
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just to be 100% clear so theres no mistake.
there is no in-game mechanic that gives you ANY improvement for using ships of the same race of the character.
any character can train any skill (a few exceptions, but those don't matter because genrally they don't work, and are birth only)
and 2 characters of opposing faction races, with identical skills can fly the same ships identically(well, as far as the character goes)
I know. Sorry for being too vague.
What I meant was, are there any notable differences in PvE performance between the ships of the various races?
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.06.22 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Torius
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just to be 100% clear so theres no mistake.
there is no in-game mechanic that gives you ANY improvement for using ships of the same race of the character.
any character can train any skill (a few exceptions, but those don't matter because genrally they don't work, and are birth only)
and 2 characters of opposing faction races, with identical skills can fly the same ships identically(well, as far as the character goes)
I know. Sorry for being too vague.
What I meant was, are there any notable differences in PvE performance between the ships of the various races?
Not really, but...
Caldari - Best for PVE
Gallente / Amarr - Decent
Minmatar - Rather bad
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Dex Torius
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Posted - 2006.06.22 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Dex Torius
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just to be 100% clear so theres no mistake.
there is no in-game mechanic that gives you ANY improvement for using ships of the same race of the character.
any character can train any skill (a few exceptions, but those don't matter because genrally they don't work, and are birth only)
and 2 characters of opposing faction races, with identical skills can fly the same ships identically(well, as far as the character goes)
I know. Sorry for being too vague.
What I meant was, are there any notable differences in PvE performance between the ships of the various races?
Not really, but...
Caldari - Best for PVE
Gallente / Amarr - Decent
Minmatar - Rather bad
Hmm. How big is the difference? If I spec in Minmatar ships, for instance, does that mean I'm completely screwed PvE wise or is it just a slight difference?
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.06.22 04:18:00 -
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Slight different to amarr and gallente, but the Caldari are better then the rest by FAR.
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Dex Torius
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Posted - 2006.06.22 04:22:00 -
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Guess that settles it then.
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Virtuality
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Torius
Not really, but...
Caldari - Best for PVE
Gallente / Amarr - Decent
Minmatar - Rather bad
How can you say this when Minmatar can change their damage type? Minmatar and Caldari and Gallente can consistently rat any rats. Amarr are the ones who have problems, considering they can only do EM and Thermal damage.
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Neckbone
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Posted - 2006.06.23 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Virtuality
Originally by: Dex Torius
Not really, but...
Caldari - Best for PVE
Gallente / Amarr - Decent
Minmatar - Rather bad
How can you say this when Minmatar can change their damage type? Minmatar and Caldari and Gallente can consistently rat any rats. Amarr are the ones who have problems, considering they can only do EM and Thermal damage.
No ****! I cleared Human Cattle 5/5 in a freakin' Rifter with under 1 million in combat skills. Minmatar are doing SOMETHING right. Can shield or armor tank, and use all four damage types on the fly, have smaller sigs and higher speeds. They aren't the best, but I don't think any race is at enough of a disadvantage to really be separated that much when ratting or running missions.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2006.06.23 22:28:00 -
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Human Cattle being the level 1 or 2 mission? If so, saying you had less than 1 mill doesn't really seem that impressive. I was doing level 3 angel extrav with 800k sp in caldari ships... thats with level 3 in all learning skills and 92 diff skills overall eating up lots of that. So yah... 1 mill for a level 1 mission... wow, impressive *rolls eyes*
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