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Teister
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Teister on 27/09/2003 21:15:17
The Coalition of Free Stars, Khanid Alliance declares itself neutral in your respective wars. Our home region is Khanid, and we ask that you do not bring your fights into our region. CFS does have a non-interference policy between publicly declared wars. As such, we will not intervene between publicly declared wars or Concord approved warring parties in CFS space, which is defined as Khanid, JK-FIX, l-4ZFB, and RI6T-K regions. The exception being known pirate corps on our KOS list, which will always be attacked. Catch is also within CFS interests, and as such will be patrolled by CFS forces on anti-pirate patrols. Please respect our neutrality in your differences. As a courtesy, please do not have mining, NPC hunts, or trading operations in our space, which will draw your foes. Khanid is OUR home, and we will protect and defend it if we must, but we truly wish to be left alone from your wars so that our members can go about their business peacefully.
I would like to thank the representatives from CA, SA, NA, and NVA for recent discussions and allowing CFS to explain our position. I would especially like to thank Civil Deity from Everlasting Vendetta for his prompt attention for an incident occurring in the Catch region yesterday, which prevented major hostilities from breaking out between CFS and the SA alliances.
More information, including current membership list, can be found at www.cfs-eve.org. I thank you for your time.
Teister
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
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Melonie
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Melonie on 27/09/2003 21:25:43
oops posted in wrong thread
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:27:00 -
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depends, if SINC move to cfs so do evolution :P
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:37:00 -
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Evolution get the most determined away of the year.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Teister
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Teister on 27/09/2003 21:48:36
Edited by: Teister on 27/09/2003 21:48:00
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depends, if SINC move to cfs so do evolution :P
The purpose of my post, is to inform warring parties NOT to come to the Khanid region. There is no reason for you to come here. If Sinister, MASS, EV, and Evolution and the other at war alliance members respect our position, then there will not be any problems. Coming here will only cause problems for CFS. CFS has a good reputation in EVE. Our word is good and we take responsibility for our memberÆs actions. By coming here, you will only be disturbing our peaceful region and your own reputation will suffer. As stated, please respect our wishes as a courtesy. Our members want to be able to access some of the few remaining open 0.0 regions in the game, and bringing war to Khanid will not be in anyoneÆs interests.
Teister
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
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HC CEO
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Posted - 2003.09.28 06:41:00 -
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Stain is killing in Curse and Catch. Sounds like a difficult situation.
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.09.28 07:56:00 -
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Catch and Curse are routes to Stain, and as such they are areas of great importance to us. Our foes must never be allowed to setup shop in these regions.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Revolution
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Posted - 2003.09.28 08:04:00 -
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As long as your patrols in Catch arnt seen to be working with the pirates from CA, im sure there will be np.
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Vand'aal
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Posted - 2003.09.28 15:46:00 -
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Hey Teister, do you use slaves to mine for you in the centre of slavery that is Khanid?
You are one crooked Minnie boy, hehehe.
Please stir up some trouble there, Sinister?
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The Sword of Light
Purity through no tolerance
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Lafrat Latav
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Posted - 2003.09.29 00:51:00 -
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Di u not know that there exist amarr slave, amarrian are the nest slaves of the universe i assure, maybe you should try to to use amarrian slaves
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.09.29 02:11:00 -
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Hey Teister, do you use slaves to mine for you in the centre of slavery that is Khanid?
You are one crooked Minnie boy, hehehe.
Please stir up some trouble there, Sinister?
Wow what an unqualified post.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.09.29 05:33:00 -
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Who are the pirates in Curse? Evolution?
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.29 05:39:00 -
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Sinister I think.
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Jade Slice
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Posted - 2003.09.29 06:21:00 -
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Stain always go to Catch and kill people, thats piracy isnt it!?!? What will you do about that???
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.09.29 13:11:00 -
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Ok I do some trading in Khanid now are you telling me that I am not welcome to do so because of my membership in the NVA?
That would be unfortunate.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 14:20:00 -
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I do not like the Coalition's statement of neutrality in the NVA vs NA(piratical alliance)war. To me this rings of parochialism and flexible morality. In one voice CFS declares itself the enemy of pirates and murderers (in JK-Fix and ajacent regions). While in another the CFS pays equal weight to the representations of NVA and NA in diplomatic langage.
Why are the NA and CA listed alongside NVA, FA and SA in that list of alliances?
That is like me listing CFS in a litanany of pod-killing lunatics and expecting not to cause offense.
Principles, by their nature, are weighty things and oftimes troublesome. But monsieur Teister, the very difficulty of keeping one's principles high and clean is the measure of their worth in the sphere of reputation and common acclaim.
On record I will say that I personally do not like your recognition of the NA as a valid alliance.
It smacks to me of appeasement.
A lot less than I expected of you.
Jade Constantine
CEO Jericho Fraction
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2003.09.29 15:36:00 -
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As a courtesy, please do not have mining, NPC hunts, or trading operations in our space, which will draw your foes.
Why not trading ?
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Chrysa Morganite
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:25:00 -
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TTI respects CFS's claim of neutrality, and will not bring conflict to your region.
We question any efforts to criticize the neutrality of a region, especially a region very distant from the interests of the NVA.
Chrysa Morganite
Information Manager
Taggart Transdimensional
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Jericho
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:02:00 -
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Major hostilities between CFS and SA? HAHAHAHAHAHA That is a joke right? You know you would be crushed within days.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:09:00 -
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I am not surprised to see Taggart lauding the CFS decision. After all, seeing the Coalition of Free Stars declaring neutrality in a dispute between a pirate empire and a regional alliance fighting against pirates ... is something of a propaganda coup for the Taggart Transpiratical Alliance.
I am disappointed.
More than this, I must inform president Teister that Jericho pilots are continuing to use JX-Fix for Sansha pirate hunting purposes.
We have made use of JX-Fix since way before the war began. And we are not about to stop now because the CFS Senate cannot bring itself to condemn a pirate alliance and thereby chose the right side of a galactic dispute.
Any aggression against Jericho ships in JX-Fix will be lead to consequences.
Jade Constantine
CEO Jericho Fraction
PR Rep NVA Council
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:12:00 -
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Jade stop trying to bring people into your wars.
The fine people of the CFS really don't need to be involved in NVA matters. And if you really beleived in all those things you preach why didn't you look further into how Qball sold out a member of your former alliance ? I know it doesn't matter now that Cyberdyne systems left NVA but as far as everyone knows you condoned the actions because you never condemmed them.
ALl you had to say was : See it wasn't me who was betraying you guys it was another member of NVA, You guys should feel bad for accusing me.
Jade I would focus more effort on organising NVA into an alliance that works well together than worry about if another alliance is nuetral or not.
CFS don't cave to pressure.
Nuetrality has it's merits.
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 29/09/2003 17:22:58
I thought you had left Taggart Derek?
You still seem to be carrying their PR agenda?
And by the way;
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... but as far as everyone knows you condoned the actions because you never condemmed them.
You haven't gotten any better at arguing logic now you are corpless. By that argument CFS condone piracy and are moral hypocrits.
Re Qball, I called him "the biggest liar in eve" when questioned by Yoseph Cohen thee weeks ago. At the time I recall you didn't believe me.
Love and peace
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Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:14:00 -
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Fun thing is Qball, sold out old VA aswell. He is well trained in planting the dagger that one.
Read the Rules Of Conduct and Terms Of Usage
"There is TONS of flaming, personal abuse and
other bad behaviour on the In-game board and in In-game world. If everybody would just read the rules and follow them, the EVE world be a much nicer place to be in."
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Derek on 29/09/2003 17:28:28
Jade i'm not carrying any agenda.
I'm looking out for the people of CFS. I have freinds who are in that alliance.
Quit spinning every damn thread into anti TTI.
Concentrate on your own damn group of people.
Were all sick of hearing your incessant droning and kicking a tired dead horse. You didn't answer my question? Xan just pointed it out again. Until you address the things that led to the first fall of an alliance I think you should or you might find another rift start opening up.
If i was RONA i would be wondering what would happen to me if someone started selling us out such as Qball did. What would you do Jade? Who would you side with. Its hard to know whats really going on when you are on the boards spinning PR consistantly.
And to end it off Jade. Anyone else want to raise their hand if they are tired of Jades BS ? I don't say this as pro-TTI either. I say it as anti-Jade. And to the NVA I don't have a problem with you guys. My having a problem with one member of your alliance has nothing really to do with the rest of you except that you've chosen Jade to represent you on the forums (actually i'm not even sure Jade was chosen but there certaintly isn't any stopping her ).
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
HC CEO
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:32:00 -
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Jade, we are bored!
The issue is that the fine people in CFS will not fire upon you unless you do so, so making any threats about consequences in here is foolish.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:45:00 -
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Well I know who Derek represents ... who do you represent HC?
And please don't try to get into a semantics debate with me. I couldn't care less whether you are bored or not. Go and read a book. For my part I am considering the political consequences of the CFS senate imposing a trade, mining, and pirate-hunting "ban" on NVA member corporations in JX-Fix.
I say "ban" in quotes, because at the moment President Teister has not seen fit to make it firm and solid.
However, the language there makes it plain that CFS view NVA as equivalent status to the Piratical Northern Alliance.
Joining your opinion to the ex-Taggart Derek (who maintains a pro-taggart agenda) does nothing to present or verify the anti-piratical credentials of your alliance.
I have clashed wits with some clever men m'dear. You are not of them. Run away home and let the big boys come and play.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |
Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Derek on 29/09/2003 17:57:59
"I have clashed wits with some clever men m'dear. You are not of them. Run away home and let the big boys come and play."
Jade please don't insult the intelligence of a person whom you don't know as it does nothing to help your cause.
And what in my posts makes you beleive i'm Pro TTI? Because I don't like you? HAHAHA Jade step of your high horse for a second. I actually want NVA to be successful. I Also want CFS to be succesful. That does not mean you always have to be firm allies in every war. I have no reason to hate anyone here. I don't hate you Jade I just can't stand reading your posts daily. And I would consider ignoring you completely but you seem it necessary to bring the universe to your party.
The war between NVA and NA is over. For some reason you still think it's in full swing. Mega is 1 member and TTI are in need of full reorganization.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:00:00 -
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The war will be over when TTI surrender Derek. That is how wars finish. TTI relocating to other regions and hiding under rocks and finding new shield corps to protect them is not the definition of a concluded war.
And you made it your business to attack me in this thread Derek. I have been performing my duty as PR rep for the NVA in responding to a CFS senate decision we do not like.
I don't care whether you like me or not Derek. As far as I am concerned you are a Taggart deserter moved to other regions to hide from the consequences of your leader's actions.
Some executives who left Taggart have avoided commenting on these issues to maintain the new positions of neutrality they aspire to.
You have been unable to avoid the temptation to stick pins and make derisive comment.
You have precisely no proven right nor reputation to offer valid comment on the politcal arrangements made between honourable alliances. You demean the CFS by bring your unfinished business here in public disclosure.
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:01:00 -
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Jade our principles are the very reason we can't take sides in this war. We will kill pirates on sight, that is a given. But what about TTi? Do we bar them from Khanid space? Or the nonpirate members of the Curse Alliance? That is why it is a REQUEST to refrain from commerce in our space.
Until they do something to be put on the KOS list they may enter our space freely, it is one of the founding principles of the coaltion! But if we picked a side we'd end up being forced to start killing people who aren't pirates.
Of course, thats my view on the thing.
We won't kill you for being in our space Jade though I imagine it'd be quite the propganda coup. It was merely a request to respect the wishes of the Coalition. It causes us problems, since we are bound to defend these regions, and fights in our backyard between legitimate corps will hamper defence efforts in the FIX and Khanid. If you can't respect that that it is your decision of course.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:07:00 -
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Jade I wasn't an exec at TTI.
I did not make decisions for TTI.
I left because it wasn't the corp I joined anymore. And because many of my freinds were already gone.
Is that hiding to you ? Your still trying to put a spin on every single thing that happpens.
I'm sick of your Bull**** Jade. And i'm sure many others are as well.
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:09:00 -
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As far as I know, NVA are welcome in JK-FIX and anywhere else CFS operates, provided the individual pilots aren't known griefers.
I won't bore everyone with our particular definition of "griefer'; that's been covered elsewhere multiple times. :)
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:10:00 -
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Oh and I don't demean the CFS by stating that their view of nuetrality is a wise one.
What does it gain them to join you in your wars?
What do you offer them Jade?
Hunting in Venal is hardly a coveted prize. All i'm suggesting to you is that you strenghten your own allince by foccusing on your own alliance and not the alliances of others.
How is that a bad suggestion?
Tell me Jade?
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:10:00 -
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Then I think what we need is a clarification of Teister's statement. What will the CFS do if NVA sends a task force to hunt TTi and pirate allies in CFS space?
Also, what will CFS do if NVA corps continue to trade, mine, and hunt pirates in CFS space?
These things need to be explicitly stated.
Your neutrality can be respected. But providing a shield for Taggart resupply and commerce can not be.
Taggart funds a pirate alliance of murderers and villains. I really don't know how many times I have to remind people of that.
It is not possible to divorce the commercial operations of Taggart members from the political direction of the Taggart board. These people are declared allies of M3G4 of Paladins of the Red Skull, of Space Invaders, of Scentites ... etc etc.
If you allow them to flourish in the bolt hole of JK-Fix and Khanid in a months time they will be back spreading destruction and sorrow in Venal and Pureblind.
This is pragmatic political reality.
Time to wise up.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:18:00 -
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Allow me the illusionary notion that not everything is down to simple profit and loss analysis Derek.
CFS have expressed an anti-piratical principle.
NVA have been fighting against pirate domination.
Is it to much to expect that the CFS senate would recognise the validity of an ideological alliance between equals persuing the same broad agenda.
Apparently it may be.
For if our "pirate nemesis" (Taggart and NA) is the CFS's "innocent merchents" ... then truly we are looking at the situation from very different perspectives.
I had hoped the CFS would stand for something more.
Still, one lives and learns, and adaption and evolution are the foremost principles of political survival.
But at this time we have faith in our declaration of principles.
JF Public Forum |
Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:21:00 -
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Jade what good is a declaration of Principles if your own alliance is not strong. CAn you actually repell an invasion? You had a hard enough time just fighting Mega.
Look inwards. You may see an alliance in need of some rebuilding.
CFS doesnt need to welcome war into their home just because you deem they should based on an anti pirate view.
And your statement saying TTI is going to hide there and get strong then come back attacking you guys in full force is ludicrus.
Does anyone beleive thats their plan?
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 -
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Jade put a sock in it. I have had my boys on the line for you for ages now, fighting for you. This constant defiling of a thread is getting old.
I will probably get a spanking by our pr officer for this. But JADE SHUT UP! Take this as friendly advice from one of your most favorable allies.
Read the Rules Of Conduct and Terms Of Usage
"There is TONS of flaming, personal abuse and
other bad behaviour on the In-game board and in In-game world. If everybody would just read the rules and follow them, the EVE world be a much nicer place to be in."
Feel free to copy this Signature. |
Chrysa Morganite
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Chrysa Morganite on 29/09/2003 18:51:53
Edited by: Chrysa Morganite on 29/09/2003 18:51:08
TTI has never had any interest in moving to CFS space to make war, unless they decided to join the NVA. They did not join them because it is not in their interest.
TTI's core philosophy and its members respect the CFS's wish for neutrality. We believe that CFS held space should remain outside the areas of conflict entirely.
Finally, TTI requests that Jade discontinue spreading fear and disinformation regarding TTI influence in this affair. There is no TTI conspiracy, we do not have the means or desire to produce one. At least McCarthy had some grains of truth on his side, Jade does not.
Chrysa Morganite
Information Manager
Taggart Transdimensional
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Edward Preble
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:56:00 -
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NVA is a regional alliance. Jade has told CFS that it demands financial tributes from those who want to use their space, and NVA is fighting to control a region: as such, Teister's listing of relevant alliances to which our claim of neutrality applies was very correct.
Jade may continue to claim that because CFS attempts to protect its home from pirates, that it's obligated to go to war with anyone she decries as a pirate. Unfortunately, as flowery as her rhetoric may be, it does not define reality. Considering her own alliance harbors criminals and pirates, she has little ground to call CFS hypocritical. In addition, her definition of 'pirate' is a little broad, and seems more focused on her enemies than on an independent criterion for judging crimes.
More than likely, she has a case of sour grapes because CFS was not convinced it should join the NVA conflict in force. TTi may have many unflattering characteristics; but paying mercenary corporations to attack their enemies in a civil war does not immediately make them a pirate corporation. Nor are her threats or her arrogance convincing arguments for deploying a fleet on the other side of the cluster, when NVA cannot provide reciprocal support.
As for our neutrality, it is simple. We will not attack people who are not pirates or enemies of CFS. We will attempt to avoid being involved in conflicts that are recognized wars. However, whether a warring party or not, pirates will be attacked in our space. So while we request avoiding conflict in our space, if you do attempt to hunt your enemies here, doing it with pirate mercenaries will be less productive.
Edward Preble
Coalition of Free Stars
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Teister
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:21:00 -
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Then I think what we need is a clarification of Teister's statement. What will the CFS do if NVA sends a task force to hunt TTi and pirate allies in CFS space?
Also, what will CFS do if NVA corps continue to trade, mine, and hunt pirates in CFS space?
These things need to be explicitly stated.
Your neutrality can be respected. But providing a shield for Taggart resupply and commerce can not be.
Taggart funds a pirate alliance of murderers and villains. I really don't know how many times I have to remind people of that.
It is not possible to divorce the commercial operations of Taggart members from the political direction of the Taggart board. These people are declared allies of M3G4 of Paladins of the Red Skull, of Space Invaders, of Scentites ... etc etc.
If you allow them to flourish in the bolt hole of JK-Fix and Khanid in a months time they will be back spreading destruction and sorrow in Venal and Pureblind.
This is pragmatic political reality.
Time to wise up.
Love and peace
From the topic starter, and I quote my own words: "...we will not intervene between publicly declared wars or Concord approved warring parties in CFS space, which is defined as Khanid, JK-FIX, l-4ZFB, and RI6T-K regions. The exception being known pirate corps on our KOS list, which will always be attacked."
Which part do you not understand? NVA and TTi are in a publicly declard war, espically public with your pollific pen. Let me spell it out for you.
CFS will not interfere or protect NVA attacks on TTi and the rest of the NA. Nor will we protect NVA against TTi, but would if the attackers were pirates, like M3g4 or the now BMC. We will not interfer if Evo wants to attack CA ships in our space, and again vise versa, unless the CA members are also pirates and on our KOS list, in which case we shall attack them. Sinister lost a BS and we pod killed the pilot yesterday due to this policy. I do not know how to make this policy any clearer.
Sorry if you take offense if I used and use the term "NA". I do not know all who are in that "alliance" and am using it as convience name for the group.
Lastly, during the chat sessions, you seem to have taken the comments from our PUBLIC chat, which includes non-cfs members, as questioning NVA internal polices. CFS and I could not give's a rat's ass about those policies, for they are extremly miner differences and in no way would have hindered closer relations. To have mistaken public comments, from a chat group which had 140 people in it and therefore, every sort of opinion, from insightful to innane, is a mistake of judgement on your part I believe.
I know you did not like seeing m3g4, and latter Taggert, and I think KIA vistors in our public chat when you came in. They were not invited, I assure you. They came because thier spies, probably in your alliance but in all fairness, could be ours, got wind of alliance talks between us.
In summary, I hope your concerns are answered. I have waited a bit before reply becuase, if I had let my pen fly with a bit of heated passion, things between CFS and NVA would continue to escalate.
Teister
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:29:00 -
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As far as I know, NVA are welcome in JK-FIX and anywhere else CFS operates, provided the individual pilots aren't known griefers.
I won't bore everyone with our particular definition of "griefer'; that's been covered elsewhere multiple times. :)
Thank you for the information. I have no desire for conflict with the CFS. i simply wish to continue trading.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 20:35:00 -
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Okay, mÆdears à I have been in discussion with both the NVA Council and the CFS Senate these last couple of hours. Initial outcomes are useful; in that the CFS has confirmed that NVA transit, mining, trade and pirate hunting will be allowed as usual. I have also had it confirmed that Taggart is still deemed an unacceptable partner for the CFS and will not be granted a place in that alliance.
Discussions are continuing; but clarification of these issues has lowered the intensity of diplomatic wrangling considerably.
NVA awaits further developments.
Love and Peace.
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High Priestess
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Posted - 2003.09.29 22:11:00 -
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Thats good to hear Jade. I travel to CFS space everyday and sell out of Gehi. Id like to see Khanid remain a peaceful place. From the looks of it CFS wont interfere if declared combatants fight it out in their space provided they arent known pirates or PK griefers. So the solution is simple. If you chase someone into CFS space just make sure your attackers are not pirates. This sounds like a good rule to me since a chasing pirate who doesnt find his target will by nature turn to attack innocent people which is how they became pirates in the first place. Thank you.
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Anla Shok
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Posted - 2003.09.29 22:26:00 -
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lemme say it as diplomatic as i can.
you are a waste of space.
all of you.
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.29 23:58:00 -
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Funny, that's what my mother told me over and over when I was young. Yet, I'm still here and she's dead.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.30 00:55:00 -
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Okay, mÆdears à I have been in discussion with both the NVA Council and the CFS Senate these last couple of hours. Initial outcomes are useful; in that the CFS has confirmed that NVA transit, mining, trade and pirate hunting will be allowed as usual. I have also had it confirmed that Taggart is still deemed an unacceptable partner for the CFS and will not be granted a place in that alliance.
Discussions are continuing; but clarification of these issues has lowered the intensity of diplomatic wrangling considerably.
NVA awaits further developments.
Love and Peace.
I can keep it short and simple that many, many corporations are willing to defend what CFS stands for.
By invading CFS in any form, you show that what they stand for isnt what you stand for: Peace in a region and safety against piracy.
Would be a shame, because that was the single reason for DCINC, and many others, to join a NAP with NVA.
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Posted - 2003.09.30 01:23:00 -
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Dreamworks m'dear, I think you needn't worry. The NVA has absolutely no intentions to travel 80 jumps to invade CFS space. My earlier remark about consequences was in response to the hypothetical situation that an NVA vessel might be prevented from peaceful trade, mining, or Sansha hunting in JK-Fix.
Since the clarification I asked for has been given, there is no issue potentially arising from that question.
Fundimentally the CFS and NVA stand for the same thing. We have minor differences in terms of industrial grade strip-mining tariffs. But overall our methods and methodology are pretty close.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.30 01:37:00 -
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TTi operating in CFS "claimed" space?
/em boggles
That would be an interesting way to show abhorence of piratical tendencies.
Of course.. it would also make the third "unannounced alliance" hiding within the CFS membership waiting for the day of stations to lay claim to Jk-fix and its 'kin'.
More interesting is that two of those do not have the CFSs' interests or ideals at their heart...
Et tu Brut(i)? (sp? deliberat')
(Don't say I didn't warn you...)
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2003.09.30 04:07:00 -
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For crying out loud.
This space is not "claimed" as far as I know . . . as far as I can tell, it's a protectorate. The corps calling this area home do a pretty good job of keeping the place peaceful, which conistists of killing or keeping out trouble-makers.
They ask nothing in return, except that people play nice when they are down here.
They are possibly the only genuinely friendly group in this game . . . quit trying to make them your PR pawn Jade.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.30 04:28:00 -
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Quote:
They are possibly the only genuinely friendly group in this game . . . quit trying to make them your PR pawn Jade.
Substantiate that or take a ticket and join the list of idiots on dial-an-idiot night.
I suggest you read my posts, not responses to my posts.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2003.09.30 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: Primer Xenius on 30/09/2003 11:56:17
3 pages later, it sinks in through to her that there really is nothing to see here.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Paul Lebaue
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Posted - 2003.10.01 01:00:00 -
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Greetings Teister,
Sorry to go off topic here but seeing as how people have been trying to use the policy of CFS either for their own gain or to cause problems for the CFS's I would like to apply my corp for membership to this alliance. I understand most of what this alliance is all about and to be fully honest its current members and its policy is somethng worth protecting in my eyes. This decision has been dicussed by the members of Freelancing corp and final decision has been left to me. And the final decision is that we will support CFS and join this worthy alliance if they will have us.
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Mindecho
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Posted - 2003.10.01 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mindecho on 01/10/2003 01:25:50
Paul try posting that here :
http://cfs-eve.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1
Mindecho
Director of Ominous Division
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Paul Lebaue
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Posted - 2003.10.01 01:22:00 -
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Quote:
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They are possibly the only genuinely friendly group in this game . . . quit trying to make them your PR pawn Jade.
Substantiate that or take a ticket and join the list of idiots on dial-an-idiot night.
I suggest you read my posts, not responses to my posts.
Dear Jade,
To openly call someone an idiot in a public forum to me is nothing more then a show of lack of character and ignorance. I had a better view of you Jade. Allot better view. It would sadden me if my previous view of you were wrong.
Sincerly
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Paul Lebaue
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Posted - 2003.10.01 01:28:00 -
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Mindecho
Thanks for the information. I will go trough the process as soon as I am able.
Sincerly
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marius calgar
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Posted - 2003.10.01 01:56:00 -
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Edited by: marius calgar on 01/10/2003 01:57:11
Quote:
Quote:
They are possibly the only genuinely friendly group in this game . . . quit trying to make them your PR pawn Jade.
Substantiate that or take a ticket and join the list of idiots on dial-an-idiot night.
I suggest you read my posts, not responses to my posts.
For our UK players just think pot noodle and Jade
It's all me me me me me!!!
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2003.10.01 05:48:00 -
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Quote:
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They are possibly the only genuinely friendly group in this game . . . quit trying to make them your PR pawn Jade.
Substantiate that or take a ticket and join the list of idiots on dial-an-idiot night.
Will a pledge land me a handsom tote?
I believe CFS's ideal is to remain neutral and not to form alliances or hand out special favors to alliances. Not this:
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Initial outcomes are useful; in that the CFS has confirmed that NVA transit, mining, trade and pirate hunting will be allowed as usual. I have also had it confirmed that Taggart is still deemed an unacceptable partner for the CFS and will not be granted a place in that alliance. [/qoute]
Which implies that NVA gets a sweet deal and that Taggart doesn't. In all fairness, everyone has the same rights in CFS space as long as they behave. I assume, due to the continued conflict.
But that's how I read things . . . then again, I'm an idiot. 
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Teister
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Posted - 2003.10.01 11:13:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
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They are possibly the only genuinely friendly group in this game . . . quit trying to make them your PR pawn Jade.
Substantiate that or take a ticket and join the list of idiots on dial-an-idiot night.
Will a pledge land me a handsom tote?
I believe CFS's ideal is to remain neutral and not to form alliances or hand out special favors to alliances. Not this:
Quote:
Initial outcomes are useful; in that the CFS has confirmed that NVA transit, mining, trade and pirate hunting will be allowed as usual. I have also had it confirmed that Taggart is still deemed an unacceptable partner for the CFS and will not be granted a place in that alliance. [/qoute]
Which implies that NVA gets a sweet deal and that Taggart doesn't. In all fairness, everyone has the same rights in CFS space as long as they behave. I assume, due to the continued conflict.
But that's how I read things . . . then again, I'm an idiot.
NO, we are not giving the NVA a "sweet" deal. TTi can also come, mine, NPC hunt, etc in CFS space, as I have explained to the NVA. They are not on our KOS list. NVA forces can also come here, mine, hunt NPC, etc. And, they can both fight each other without interferance from CFS forces. They are in a public war, and as stated, we will not interfere. No, I DO NOT WANT TTi to come to CFS space, any more than any other waring fraction. But we will not prevent them from coming here, nor protect them either.
Teister
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
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Teister
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Posted - 2003.10.01 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Teister on 01/10/2003 11:28:16
Edited by: Teister on 01/10/2003 11:27:41
I would like also to state that a lessing of tensions with the NVA and CFS has come to pass. A few words were exchange, prehaps not the most friendly recently. However, we are coming to understand each others points of views, and more open and firendly dicussions have taken place.
NVA and CFS princibles and goals are not at all that far apart. Misunderstandings can and will occur, such is the nature of things. However, with reason and skilled dipomats like Jade, such probems will be worked out. Over time, I am sure the level of trust and friendship between CFS and NVA will increase.
Teister
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.01 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 01/10/2003 14:20:49
I concur with President Teister of the CFS. Much was gained by frank and honest discussion in-game.
The only people I have snapped at here were those who placed uninformed opinions on display without reading the statements on public record properly.
I am a diplomat m'dears not a doormat.
Love and peace.
Jade Constantine
CEO Jericho Fraction
PR Rep NVA
NVA Founder member
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.10.01 15:50:00 -
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Not reading posts properly. Use should be more careful. All you do is go and make an ass of yourself.
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Paul Lebaue
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Posted - 2003.10.01 19:28:00 -
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Dear Jade,
I am glad you are showing your professional and calm exterior yet again. The Previous one was really unbecoming of you. There is a certain price to pay for the fame you have aquired. Getting praises and/or critic for the job you have done is all just two sides of the same coin. Which you should have been aware of the second you put yourself in the current position you are in. Just a word of advice though. Just beacuse you brought a man down from his high horse does not mean you are anymore fit to sit on it. I do hold a certain respect for you. And I would like to keep that.
Sincerly
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.01 19:54:00 -
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Thank you for your kind words monsieur, and your thoughts beside. I must confess that I am only human and certainly not perfect. Sometimes you will see me snap, sometimes you will see respond harshly. I'd can't promise to be a good girl all the time, but I can promise to talk to your straight, and guarentee that I tell things the way they are.
We gallente are passionate creatures m'dear; and passions run hot from time to time.
But the truth is a balm and prize to be won and treasured.
Even friends may exchange hard words from time to time. Only enemies nurse grevience and hatred.
In faith,
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