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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:18:00 -
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I post this on corporation chanell but looks not many ppl check there.with so many small corps topic today I repost it here. Before starting i want to apologise if i make mistakes in my english. Well the topic now. I have amessed some isk which is not small to ignore it and not huge to do something with good proft with it(talking about 300 milion).plus it will get harder to be able to remain competitive in game with coming of new expensive stuff if we do just the same as we did before. so I thought it might be good idea to set up a club to join our funds and abilities . I'm looking for small number of ppl right now with 100 to 500 milion cash as the core of the club to set up the rules and stractures. then extending it to other less wealthy freelancers and small corps .if you are interested please contact me in game . Just add something more here ,first this is not a corp I like to be on my own for time being .and second I would like to meet only nice easygoing friendly ppl who are carebearers and can be trusted . Ohh i finished it finnaly was really time consuming task for me.
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Alfius Togra
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:28:00 -
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carebears are evil .... are you sure that you mean what you say I'm a 'good' player meaning i bash pirates and help out weaker ppl ..... this does NOT make me a carebear
if the carebears were to have their way the game would be changed so that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be a pirate ... they would have ccp warp the rules of the universe just so they can sit there mining and shooting the odd rat while there is bugger all good ol PvP action ... is that what you want????!!!
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 22:07:00 -
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lol ,ok sorry no that was not what i meant ,i meant ppl who help each other,and others.
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Johnson McCrae
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Posted - 2003.09.27 22:45:00 -
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Yea, too bad the carebears own the good stuff. Why do you think the PC Rats attack us.  It ain't over till the fat lady falls on ya!
[ 2004.10.09 02:50:23 ] (combat) Your 425mm Compressed Coil Gun I perfectly strikes Guardian Sentry, wrecking for 747.3 damage.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.27 22:49:00 -
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squeak squeak 
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.28 05:00:00 -
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Ok so far one partner ,with total cash of 600 milion ,please give it a try ,it might be better than mining for big corps.
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Zodiac Laserstorm
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Posted - 2003.09.28 10:49:00 -
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Hmmm, so you want ONLY freelancers who have the big bucks. Does make me wonder about your intentions, Mr roman. 
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illuminati
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Posted - 2003.09.28 12:02:00 -
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A big shared cashbase is not a key factor in creating a good corp.
Actually it's quite the opposite. Think 5 seconds and you'll understand why. 
For the largest corps, it always helps war-mongering loads of cash and minerals for big BP and ship investments but you will find lots of those big corps have ONE person or a few RL friends with wallet access. Friendly but determined security. 
I still can't think of one reason for anyone to come to you and give you any cash though, it has scam written all over.
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.28 15:03:00 -
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LOL ,so far 2 parners and 2 accusers , .well the scam thing was the reason i held posting this here earlier .it would be nice there was a system preventing it,but don't be much negative %95 ppl in game are nice and thrust worthy fellows believe me i tested it by giving 10+ milion worth of stuff to some strangers and getting it back . two more thing ,one again this is not a corp second the funds (even mine) might be given to a partner who has more playing time .depends what we will decide to do.
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Jojin
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Posted - 2003.09.28 16:48:00 -
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To start off with I am not trying to slander Mr. Roman. I just wanted to give an alternative view.
From my talks with Mr. Roman, I would tend to this it is either a scam or he seems to be out to get hold of a battleship blueprint.
I say this, because I approached him and informed him I had more than 300 million in assets (minerals, ISK and ships/blueprints) and he wasn't interested. He said he only wants people with ISK because it would make it easier to split up shares or to purchase a battleship blueprint.
I thought the intent was to find experienced players who were well set up, friendly and can be trusted. I guess to qualify you must have 300 million ISK ready to transfer over to him.
Anyways, I would just be a bit weary of his intentions as it seems the main goal is to get roman more money.
I could very well be wrong, but just my thoughts.
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:29:00 -
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Ok never mind my post,what a rush ppl have to call others scamer and slanders .
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Zodiac Laserstorm
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:37:00 -
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Well, what you said is not exactly clear. WHAT are your intends? WHY only wealthy people? And weahlthy in ISK for that matter? I am a freelancer, but I don't horde ISKs, indeed, I am relatively poor with around 500k at most given times.
Perhaps you are a good hearted soul and we all misunderstand you... or you are trying to get our money for reasons no one seems to be able to understand.
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.28 19:19:00 -
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I think it would be a nice idea to create a commercial, tech and production partnership with some small corps and maybe freelancers as members.
I am member of a small corp and have no other way to make big business: bp copying, tech2, player owned stations...
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Jojin
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Posted - 2003.09.29 01:08:00 -
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The statements I made may strongly point to the idea you are attempting to scam other individuals, but this does not mean it is true. However, because there is very little information available and because of past crimes committed by others, the populous of the EVE is very leery of such ideas.
You do have some good things going for you, which is why I approached you in the first place. The main one is your security rating. It lists in at 1.6. To me this meant the character had been around for a while as the patch changing the security status rewards was a while ago. Also, you are in a starter corporation. This is not the norm for scammers. Instead they would have a 0.0 security rating and be in some larger organization and making the same offer.
The thing going against you is the criteria of an individual to have ISK on hand as a primary concern. I would think from your postings you would be more concerned with the experienced, capability and roles of the players.
So donĘt throw in the towel, just be open and honest and expect people to questioning of your motives. In the end, I think you will find individuals who are more to you liking than just the first group who can ante up the cash.
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sphendar
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Posted - 2003.09.29 04:07:00 -
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Nice post roman. I think it is a novel idea. However when you bring other people into the mix it is easy for you to lose everything. My suggestion to you is to start your own corp, or chat channel, that way freelancers have other people to chat with that do the same thing as you. Then if opportunity arises jump on it. But pooling your money with a large number of people is not wize in my opinion. In anycase you have obviously been doing better then 70% of the people in eve, so if it is not broke why fix it? You are currently free, why change that?
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 09:08:00 -
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There have been some cases in which a corp director got all the money and stuff from his corp and passed it to an other account. So creating a corp is not a solution to avoid any partner to take the money and run.
Either creating a corp, either creating a commercial alliance of minicorps and freelancers, it will be the same.
What is then the advantage of working as a group of minicorps and freelancers opposed to a big corp? In my opinion it is the fact that each partner, minicorp or freelancer, can continue doing the same it did. Their assets, their activities, their secret places, all them are only for themselves. When you are in a big corp, you have to work according to the orders you receive or, at least, according to the targets and goals of the corp. This is not the case.
The commercial, tech and production alliance is only a way to invest as a group some assets(money) in a way that is no available for minicorps or freelancers. 10 people with 200 millions each one cannot buy a Battleship original BP, but the same 10 people with 1000 Millions as a group can do it.
Of course, it is a risk, you have to trust other partners. But this is how this game works. Even in a corp you have to trust all members who have access to the corp accounts and assets.
I personally prefer to take that risk, than continuing as a bored miner that never will be able to take part in a big, lucrative business.
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 10:51:00 -
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3 partners now !!!!
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 13:57:00 -
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Just to keep this in the first page of the forum.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:08:00 -
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Hey if any of you Freelancers are looking to join a group where you can do what you want but have people to help out with things then either post here or eve mail me. We are set up as a corp but we are really a co-op you do what you want when you want. We cut each other deals but your not locked into doing anything unless you say you will help out. Mine, hunt, trade whatever you like to do. Every op we do is as equals an everything gets split at the end of the day or night so noby gets hosed. Play a lot play a little we just want some more peeps to have fun with.
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:33:00 -
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Pirin thx for your support ,since i operate in 0.0 space which there's not much buisness opportunity i send my 300 milion to you whenever you come up with a good idea also i mine bistot so if you need mega or zyd let me know.
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:42:00 -
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This person "roman" is on the KOS list in stain for stealing bistot. If you join up with him and come to stain you will be KOS too. I know most of you "jealous" wannabe alliances out there dont respect our territorial claims and lines. But they exsist and are enforced. Dont follow this person into stain or you will be dispatched.
Civil Deity
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:08:00 -
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Civil how come you were not able to dispatch me? I'm there for 3 months now .and where did you got the idea i was advertising ppl to come stain .
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:15:00 -
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Quote: This person "roman" is on the KOS list in stain for stealing bistot. If you join up with him and come to stain you will be KOS too. I know most of you "jealous" wannabe alliances out there dont respect our territorial claims and lines. But they exsist and are enforced. Dont follow this person into stain or you will be dispatched.
It sounds like a threat...hummm... Not only they close stain to the public, but also want to control what alliances we can do and where we can play??? Are you crazy???
Stealing, you say... What is stealing for you? For me is when a group of monopoly-lovers claim part of the former PUBLIC EVE universe and decide that no other people can go there.
As far as I know, I don't need to join Roman to be in your kos list.I only have to go to stain and mine 0.01m3 of veldspar to go into that list.
Thanks for your "advice".
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:19:00 -
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Quote: Hey if any of you Freelancers are looking to join a group where you can do what you want but have people to help out with things then either post here or eve mail me. We are set up as a corp but we are really a co-op you do what you want when you want. We cut each other deals but your not locked into doing anything unless you say you will help out. Mine, hunt, trade whatever you like to do. Every op we do is as equals an everything gets split at the end of the day or night so noby gets hosed. Play a lot play a little we just want some more peeps to have fun with.
Maud, the purpose of this post wasn't that. This is not a recruitment post. We are looking for small corps or freelancers to cooperate in big business, as I explained before. There are other forums more suitable for what you are trying to do.
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:20:00 -
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Quote: Just to keep this in the first page of the forum.

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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:02:00 -
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Well yeah which is in essense what we have been doing without the big up front entry fee. which is why I thought it would be a good place to mention it since people didn't seem to like the only come if you have 300 mil idea. However if I stepped on anyones toes my sorrow, I will exit this thread now so as to not offend.
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roman
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:45:00 -
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Moud you might be right ,but the reason i asked for more than 100 milion becouse it's not really much isk ,consider even with 300 milion it needs 3 partners to purchase a bs bp ,which counting for involved small corps it is 10 ppl at least .I'm a person who likes to help others which i often do but it does not mean to be unrealistic ,if we make it 10 milion a partner it's 100 ppl for a bs bp ,it's a lot of work to organise and administer for such large number of ppl .if someone can do it i'll be happy to be the first to join . Regarding the joining or creating a corp as you read above i'm hunted person by sa so how many ppl like to be with me as a corp mate .and i enjoy my freedom ,i have great time being chased by 10 ppl and loughing at them when they are not able to do anything to me.
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 20:01:00 -
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the club is born!!!
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Earthan
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Posted - 2003.09.29 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Earthan on 29/09/2003 20:08:19
Quote: This person "roman" is on the KOS list in stain for stealing bistot. If you join up with him and come to stain you will be KOS too. I know most of you "jealous" wannabe alliances out there dont respect our territorial claims and lines. But they exsist and are enforced. Dont follow this person into stain or you will be dispatched.
I hate you alliances,you cant own a part of galaxie.Galaxie should be free for all.One day I will do something about it...
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.09.29 21:56:00 -
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well, you could join the club for now!!
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