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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6862
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:31:00 -
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Jiris Yusef wrote:Learned your lesson I suppose.
Goons are the kind of people that will never amount to anything in their real life so they have to pretend like their badass in a video game. In other words, the scum of the Earth (and New Eden).
You know, I've encountered real and i mean real life actual bad people in my life (and not just due to my job, when i was a kid there was an actual honest to God cross burning near where I lived) and I'm not butt hurt enough about it to sling 2nd grade insults from behind the double anonymity of an npc corp alt on a video game forum lol.
Goons are not magic, you're playing a video game with guns, if you don't like them stop being rather....feline.... about it and kill them if you don't like them. I do . |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2486
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:37:00 -
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It's interesting to see people talk bad about tens of thousands of people, dismissing them all as being the same.
They did that back in the 30s, too.
You should be hunted down and removed from the game, you sick freak. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Dave Stark
6437
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:38:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:It's interesting to see people talk bad about tens of thousands of people, dismissing them all as being the same.
They did that back in the 30s, too.
You should be hunted down and removed from the game, you sick freak.
did... did you just invoke godwin's law? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2486
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:42:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:It's interesting to see people talk bad about tens of thousands of people, dismissing them all as being the same.
They did that back in the 30s, too.
You should be hunted down and removed from the game, you sick freak. did... did you just invoke godwin's law? I forgot to quote the poster, so ******* mad I am about this ****!
It's this stupid brainless behaviour that leads to **** like this in the first place!
AND IT'S JUST A ******* GAME! WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE IDIOTS! The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7475
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:43:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:It's interesting to see people talk bad about tens of thousands of people, dismissing them all as being the same.
They did that back in the 30s, too.
You should be hunted down and removed from the game, you sick freak. did... did you just invoke godwin's law?
Nope. I too, think we should hang all the stockbrokers. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Intar Medris
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
206
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:44:00 -
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The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |

Raider Ray
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:00:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it.
Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7475
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:02:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players
Goonswarm even says on their wikipedia entry that they will scam you unless you go through the correct recruitment process. I don't really know how much more obvious it needs to be. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5815
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:04:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players
Ok, you can get them to use this;
EvE is a game where, if you are not paying attention, you WILL get scammed.
Does that work for you? "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH) La ilaha illjames |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
561
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:11:00 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:Goonswarm recruitment scam... If its not the oldest trick in the book, its close personal friend of the oldest.
Homework, google, 90% of the pilots in Eve, Goons themselves, asking in local, could of enlightened you to this scam...
oldest trick in the book |

Aoife Fraoch
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:14:00 -
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To the OPs credit, he hasn't posted about putting a bounty on a Titan. |

Raider Ray
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:17:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Raider Ray wrote:Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players Ok, you can get them to use this; EvE is a game where, if you are not paying attention, you WILL get scammed. Does that work for you?
Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?
NO
Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.
Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.
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Raider Ray
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:19:00 -
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Double post |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5817
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:25:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote: Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?
NO
Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.
Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.
Sorry, where was it ever written that CCP are required to do anything about this?
Welcome to an MMORPG that is different; one where YOUR actions have consequences.
"something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO" Well then perhaps "people" should do their research into the new MMO they are going to play?
And please tell me more about this elaborate scam from the recruitment channel. I would dearly love to hear how convincing it is. "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH) La ilaha illjames |

Lila Merle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:25:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players
The sticky would end up as TL;DR
I consider myself lucky in that I heard about EVE from Goons I know elsewhere.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
634
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:44:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:Lies, libel, and not the least bit of treachery by the creator of this thread. OP was a spy and was treated as such. Don't trust him. After attempting to dissolve The Glorious Socialist Goon Soviet, he is now trying feebly to damage our stellar reputation. Having his possessions taken and his ship destroyed was the least we could do to repay his nefarious actions. and the obligatory childish denial...
Don't join any null sec alliance or corp that requires you moving stuff.. fly out in shuttle with a no implant clone. then borrow a ship from them and start making isk.
if hey pod you, you are out a clone and a shuttle. If they don't, the fun of working up to whatever hardware you want from scratch will be a challenge. and never trust a goon... at least not completely. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7477
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:48:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Fix Lag wrote:Lies, libel, and not the least bit of treachery by the creator of this thread. OP was a spy and was treated as such. Don't trust him. After attempting to dissolve The Glorious Socialist Goon Soviet, he is now trying feebly to damage our stellar reputation. Having his possessions taken and his ship destroyed was the least we could do to repay his nefarious actions. and the obligatory childish denial...
Along with the obligatory broken sarcasm detector. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
634
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:56:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:Fix Lag wrote:Lies, libel, and not the least bit of treachery by the creator of this thread. OP was a spy and was treated as such. Don't trust him. After attempting to dissolve The Glorious Socialist Goon Soviet, he is now trying feebly to damage our stellar reputation. Having his possessions taken and his ship destroyed was the least we could do to repay his nefarious actions. and the obligatory childish denial... Along with the obligatory broken sarcasm detector.
I don't know if their sarcasm detector is broken or not... I didn't feel it was important to speculate on that. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7478
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:58:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:Fix Lag wrote:Lies, libel, and not the least bit of treachery by the creator of this thread. OP was a spy and was treated as such. Don't trust him. After attempting to dissolve The Glorious Socialist Goon Soviet, he is now trying feebly to damage our stellar reputation. Having his possessions taken and his ship destroyed was the least we could do to repay his nefarious actions. and the obligatory childish denial... Along with the obligatory broken sarcasm detector. I don't know if their sarcasm detector is broken or not... I didn't feel it was important to speculate on that.
And the obligatory deliberately obtuse statement.
We have the hat trick, folks. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Marsha Mallow
1152
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:01:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?
NO
Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.
Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs. Many new players joined because they'd heard about massive ingame scams and thefts via media sites (GHSC, Ebank, T4U, BoB disbanding etc). One of the game trailers even shows a player making the decision to inflitrate and rob an alliance. It's a core part of the game and something anyone can find out within minutes of watching trailers or looking up media sites. If you chose to do no research whatsoever when starting a new game, particularly a sandbox MMO, you only have yourself to blame.
CCP can track anyone, so can you via your chatlogs if someone convoed you. The reason they won't act upon a recruitment scam complaint is because it's allowed by the game rules. Take a leaf from the OPs book, learn from your mistakes and move on. There are rules in place to protect very new players from harassment and griefing, but none to protect people from their own decisions.
Retitle the thread "Careful when dealing with everyone in EvE" and the blindingly obvious bit might just leap out at us all. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
382
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:03:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:It's interesting to see people talk bad about tens of thousands of people, dismissing them all as being the same.
They did that back in the 30s, too.
You should be hunted down and removed from the game, you sick freak. did... did you just invoke godwin's law? I forgot to quote the poster, so ******* mad I am about this ****! It's this stupid brainless behaviour that leads to **** like this in the first place! AND IT'S JUST A ******* GAME! WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE IDIOTS!
Could not agree more Sol. It's yet another great example why judging by the group is inherently flawed. Not to mention an insult the chaotic diversity that is humanity. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6864
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:06:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Raider Ray wrote:Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players Ok, you can get them to use this; EvE is a game where, if you are not paying attention, you WILL get scammed. Does that work for you? Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add? NO Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing. Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.
Highlighted your problem.
You are the poster boy for everything I've ever talked about on these forums lol.
You came to a game that everyone else knows about. People won't don't even play EVE know what EVE is like. Yet you downloaded a game client, created a character and started investing time and money into it, yet couldn't be arsed to Google 'EVE Online' before doing any of it.
You came to EVE not for EVE Online game play but because it has shiney ships, not understanding that EVE is an open world sandbox game. That's like playing Grand Theft Auto because it has nice cars and being surprised at all the crime and Hoe Stomping that occurs in it lol.
The company that makes EVE started 17 years ago in 1997 (and advertised what kind of game they were making). The game itself was launched in 2003 (11 years ago). That entire time no one has hidden what EVE online is, what it's about and what kind of gameplay it has.
And yet, despite all the above, somehow your irresponsibility (in not having a single clue about this game that you paid some form of money for) is someone Else's fault. Somehow, CCP is supposed to turn it's back on 17 years of history to 'do something' about you getting scammed...
I find people like this to be amazing...in a bad way.
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Raider Ray
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:27:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Raider Ray wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Raider Ray wrote:Intar Medris wrote:The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.
EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it. Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of? Could be really helpful for new players Ok, you can get them to use this; EvE is a game where, if you are not paying attention, you WILL get scammed. Does that work for you? Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add? NO Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing. Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs. Highlighted your problem. You are the poster boy for everything I've ever talked about on these forums lol. You came to a game that everyone else knows about. People won't don't even play EVE know what EVE is like. Yet you downloaded a game client, created a character and started investing time and money into it, yet couldn't be arsed to Google 'EVE Online' before doing any of it. You came to EVE not for EVE Online game play but because it has shiney ships, not understanding that EVE is an open world sandbox game. That's like playing Grand Theft Auto because it has nice cars and being surprised at all the crime and Hoe Stomping that occurs in it lol. The company that makes EVE started 17 years ago in 1997 (and advertised what kind of game they were making). The game itself was launched in 2003 ( 11 years ago). That entire time no one has hidden what EVE online is, what it's about and what kind of gameplay it has. And yet, despite all the above, somehow your irresponsibility (in not having a single clue about this game that you paid some form of money for) is someone Else's fault. Somehow, CCP is supposed to turn it's back on 17 years of history to 'do something' about you getting scammed... I find people like this to be amazing...in a bad way.
I was only mentioning how a scammer can avoid posting in the corp recruitment channel by directly convoing people. CCP actually does investigate recruitment scams and does take action if there is an add in the channel. In my case the did not.
As also mentioned in my first post i learned my lesson and moved on. Some players don't and this is why they quit. No need to get angry about it or take it personally. If you are finding people being amazingly bad then perhaps reassess your post which is most definitely erroneous |

Felicity Love
Ka'ra Shabuir Inc.
1959
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:29:00 -
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Goons have nobody to play with... recruiting "kills" = genius ... but it's also like the "casting couch", either way you get screwed. 
"Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5818
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:31:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:When I said scams were bad, I meant good. You should feel good about my post, by which I mean bad.
Smooth move, Exlax "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH) La ilaha illjames |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6868
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:41:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:
I was only mentioning how a scammer can avoid posting in the corp recruitment channel by directly convoing people. CCP actually does investigate recruitment scams and does take action if there is an add in the channel. In my case the did not.
As also mentioned in my first post i learned my lesson and moved on. Some players don't and this is why they quit. No need to get angry about it or take it personally. If you are finding people being amazingly bad then perhaps reassess your post which is most definitely erroneous
Another case in point. Somehow I'm 'angry' and my post 'erroneous' lol. Yet, Of the 2 of us, one has never been scammed. Do you think no one has tried to conv/scam me in the last 7 years of my EVE life loo? I'm not angry, I'm dismayed at the idea that grown folks (average EVE age was stated and 27 or 28 last time CCP mentioned it) could be this clueless. The same people who can't figure out a video game are the people voting in elections in Western Countries lol
The point is (and this is reinforced by your response here) is that where you see a 'game problem', I see a 'personal problem'. YOU didn't do your homework, and got had before it. EVE isn't just any mmo, and the 'shiney space ships' that attract people are nothing more than game play tools.
The people who quit after getting scammed (of ganked) shouldn't have been playing in the 1st place. They should have taken a look at themselves, realized that they aren't mentally suited to a cutthroat environment, and choose another game to play.
EVE is no more 'dangerous' than a padded room is you are alert, aware and smart, it's a freaking lion's den is you sloppy or dumb.
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GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:51:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:Let me first start off by saying I know I messed up and I am stupid for doing X and trusting them. But hey you live and learn and that's part of EVE and there's always tomorrow.
Goonswarm recruiting to kill there new members and take some of there stuff??? So today I was looking for a Corp which was in null, and that I can help support with my 8 accounts being a huge industry guy and all. A couple days ago I was invited by Lyeni of Outer World Industries [-OWI-] in Goonswarm Federation. Made it sound interesting in joining, was really just wanting to get into a corp with a settled Null system and continue playing the game and make billions a day again. However that was not the case with this story. Instead they had me pack up some things send over X via contract to haul over join the corp and jump my freighter out. Then I was tackled and killed and podded, they wanted me to eject ( lols ) I didn't. My total lose at the end of the day roughly 4b. Yes that is a good amount of money, and well I guess I was not cool enough for the Goons of EVE, it means little. Could I have prevented it? maybe if I wasn't so trustworthy idk?
Just thought I should share my story for the day for all to laugh at, or learn from or whatever you want. Life goes on and I will make my isk lose back in acouple days doesn't really matter when you have 8 accounts, just a shame I couldn't join.
Sorry to read you had a poor experience with Outer World Industries. Feel free to contact me in game about joining Enlightened Industries and we can get your remaining assets safely & securely deployed to our space. |

Raider Ray
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:53:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: Another case in point. Somehow I'm 'angry' and my post 'erroneous' lol. Yet, Of the 2 of us, one has never been scammed. Do you think no one has tried to conv/scam me in the last 7 years of my EVE life loo? I'm not angry, I'm dismayed at the idea that grown folks (average EVE age was stated and 27 or 28 last time CCP mentioned it) could be this clueless.
The same people who can't figure out a video game are the people voting in elections in Western Countries lol.
The point is (and this is reinforced by your response here) is that where you see a 'game problem', I see a 'personal problem'. YOU didn't do your homework, and got had for it. EVE isn't just any mmo, and the 'shiney space ships' that attract people are nothing more than game play tools.
The people who quit after getting scammed (of ganked) shouldn't have been playing in the 1st place. They should have taken a look at themselves, realized that they aren't mentally suited to a cutthroat environment, and choose another game to play.
EVE is no more 'dangerous' than a padded room is you are alert, aware and smart, it's a freaking lion's den if you are sloppy or dumb.
Judging from your tone, it's no wonder that you feel eve is a lion's Den. It can definitely be a hostile game to get into but i don't see how your opinion matters on who should play this game or not. Just because eve is currently a game that makes you happy and obviously attached to it as you defend its state so ferociously, does not mean your word carries the definition on how it should be in the long run.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5822
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:00:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote: Judging from your tone, it's no wonder that you feel eve is a lion's Den. It can definitely be a hostile game to get into but i don't see how your opinion matters on who should play this game or not. Just because eve is currently a game that makes you happy and obviously attached to it as you defend its state so ferociously, does not mean your word carries the definition on how it should be in the long run.
Faceless forum alt #16,374,987
If you dont care, why you argue with Jenn so much?
Why we rich and you poor?
Call now "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH) La ilaha illjames |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6872
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:05:00 -
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Raider Ray wrote:
Judging from your tone, it's no wonder that you feel eve is a lion's Den. It can definitely be a hostile game to get into but i don't see how your opinion matters on who should play this game or not. Just because eve is currently a game that makes you happy and obviously attached to it as you defend its state so ferociously, does not mean your word carries the definition on how it should be in the long run.
LMAO
See guys, i was right, this guy is just about everything I've ever talked about on these forums 
EVE isn't a Lion's den for those who are aware. I typed that in plain English. It's a lion's den for folks like you.
As for my opinion on who should play the game or not, it is not common sense? Should a person who hates WWII era armored combat play World of Tanks? Should a person who thinks that Elf's and mages and being able to turn into a bear is stupid play WoW? Should a hard core communist subscribe to a game called "Reganomics Online' (lol)?
If a game doesn't make you happy, why play it when other games exist that might make you happy? That's why people like you are absolutely exasperating to folks like me lol.
But the part I bolded tells the ENTIRE story here. It suggests that you think EVE should be some way other than it is in the future.
Why? Why should EVE cater to people who can't Google? Why should EVE change because some people (hell, most gamers) are incapable of being honest with themselves about who they are (thus making them unable to make informed entertainment software and pass time choices)?
Just tell me why dang it 
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