Let me first start off by saying I know I messed up and I am stupid for doing X and trusting them. But hey you live and learn and that's part of EVE and there's always tomorrow.

Goonswarm recruiting to kill there new members and take some of there stuff???
So today I was looking for a Corp which was in null, and that I can help support with my 8 accounts being a huge industry guy and all. A couple days ago I was invited by Lyeni of Outer World Industries [-OWI-] in Goonswarm Federation. Made it sound interesting in joining, was really just wanting to get into a corp with a settled Null system and continue playing the game and make billions a day again. However that was not the case with this story. Instead they had me pack up some things send over X via contract to haul over and the rest I packed into my jump freighter and jumped out. Then I was tackled and killed and podded, they wanted me to eject ( lols ) I didn't. My total lose at the end of the day roughly 4b. Yes that is a good amount of money, and well I guess I was not cool enough for the Goons of EVE, it means little. Could I have prevented it? maybe if I wasn't so trustworthy idk?

Just thought I should share my story for the day for all to laugh at, or learn from or whatever you want. Life goes on and I will make my isk lose back in acouple days doesn't really matter when you have 8 accounts, just a shame I couldn't join.

I didn't contract all my stuff it was 2 ships.

This just in, goons scam and cheat new "recruits"

If you wanted to join goons. you need to do your homework.

the page doesn't work but ok.

Goonswarm recruitment scam...
If its not the oldest trick in the book, its close personal friend of the oldest.

Homework, google, 90% of the pilots in Eve, Goons themselves, asking in local, could of enlightened you to this scam...

Page works just fine - the part of that page that applies here is in bold red text and is something like:

If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.

Goons are the kind of people that will never amount to anything in their real life so they have to pretend like their badass in a video game. In other words, the scum of the Earth (and New Eden).

But... I thought they were just hilariously bad at a hilariously bad spaceship game.

Learned your lesson I suppose.

Goons are the kind of people that will never amount to anything in their real life so they have to pretend like their badass in a video game. In other words, the scum of the Earth (and New Eden).

I just don't get how people fall for this kind of stuff. You don't seem particularly dumb. (other than giving all your **** to goons )


Aside from the fact that their very corp name announces their intentions, a quick google search reveals somewhere in the neighbourhood of 18 million tear filled posts from people just like you who got their wallets ganked by our beloved goonswarm.

How did you fall for this? This is a serious question.

It's not as if there aren't a half dozen Goonswarm corps that do openly recruit from the general EVE community. People just see the biggest one and go "oooh shiny" without bothering to check anything.

the largest corporation in goonswarm federation has six members

Really?

Thats surprising. Eve Who says 283 Corps and 11,187 members at the moment. Even if they all had the same number of members each, that's still 39 members per Corp.

Goonwaffe seems to have 2,807:

http://evewho.com/alli/Goonswarm+Federation/corplist

Really?

Thats surprising. Eve Who says 283 Corps and 11,187 members at the moment. Even if they all had the same number of members each, that's still 39 members per Corp.

Goonwaffe seems to have 2,807:

http://evewho.com/alli/Goonswarm+Federation/corplist

Well idk I'm not exactly a veteran or by any means experienced in eve outside Highsec. Also it really wasn't much to lose for me. I have 8 accounts, 4 miners, 1 orca pilot, 1 freighter pilot, 2 pve toons, all of which have maxed P.I. skills and I can make 1-3B in a day so its not even a setback just a lesson learned. I was trying to get escape highsec but I guess Im not ready, gotta research some more. Live and learn I will still continue to play the game till the end.

8 accounts being a huge industry guy and all.

Goons lie, cheat and back-stab every new player they come across. Always have, always will. Why people keep thinking their experience will yield different results blows my mind.

Goons lie, cheat and back-stab every new player they come across. Always have, always will. Why people keep thinking their experience will yield different results blows my mind.

Could I have prevented it? maybe if I wasn't so trustworthy idk?

Let me first start off by saying I know I messed up and I am stupid for doing X and trusting them. But hey you live and learn and that's part of EVE and there's always tomorrow.

Goonswarm recruiting to kill there new members and take some of there stuff???
So today I was looking for a Corp which was in null, and that I can help support with my 8 accounts being a huge industry guy and all. A couple days ago I was invited by Lyeni of Outer World Industries [-OWI-] in Goonswarm Federation. Made it sound interesting in joining, was really just wanting to get into a corp with a settled Null system and continue playing the game and make billions a day again. However that was not the case with this story. Instead they had me pack up some things send over X via contract to haul over join the corp and jump my freighter out. Then I was tackled and killed and podded, they wanted me to eject ( lols ) I didn't. My total lose at the end of the day roughly 4b. Yes that is a good amount of money, and well I guess I was not cool enough for the Goons of EVE, it means little. Could I have prevented it? maybe if I wasn't so trustworthy idk?

Just thought I should share my story for the day for all to laugh at, or learn from or whatever you want. Life goes on and I will make my isk lose back in acouple days doesn't really matter when you have 8 accounts, just a shame I couldn't join.

Do you actually believe this horseshit? Or is this some kind of RP?

It is when the rules regulating our "real life" exchanges are temporarily suspended - that we can permit ourselves to display these repressed attitudes.

you actually wanted to be a member of the most hated alliance in the game

Lies, libel, and not the least bit of treachery by the creator of this thread. OP was a spy and was treated as such. Don't trust him. After attempting to dissolve The Glorious Socialist Goon Soviet, he is now trying feebly to damage our stellar reputation. Having his possessions taken and his ship destroyed was the least we could do to repay his nefarious actions.

Would a hug make it a little better?

Could I have prevented it? maybe if I wasn't so trustworthy idk?

Would a hug make it a little better?

Your name is apt friend. Eve punishes the ill-informed quite severely.

Leaving Highsec is as simple as clicking the jump button, but it's not highsec you need to escape. It's the carebear mentality. Stop hoarding ISK and resources and start interacting with the community and learning about the game. Noone cares how much ISK you make in a day or how fast you can make it back. If that's all you take away from this experience than I am afraid you are doomed to be a slave to your wallet (and by extension hi-sec safety) until you unsub out of boredom.

If anything you should thank the Goon who wrecked your wallet for freeing you from slavery and showing you the sandbox.

My 2c anyhow.

This just in, goons scam and cheat new "recruits"

If you wanted to join goons. you need to do your homework.

Do you want to get revenge on a goon? Find his facebook page, learn about your foe. How many employers would be happy to know they hired/are thinking of hiring a known 'gang member' , thief and associate of thief's. They can't complain as they meta game all the time.

Do you want to get revenge on a goon? Find his facebook page, learn about your foe. How many employers would be happy to know they hired/are thinking of hiring a known 'gang member' , thief and associate of thief's. They can't complain as they meta game all the time.

Goons lie, cheat and back-stab every new player they come across. Always have, always will. Why people keep thinking their experience will yield different results blows my mind.

Are you actually serious?

"Hi Can I speak to the the Line Manager Please"

"Speaking"

"Do you know John Smith is a member of a notorious space-gang? He and his spacemen criminal friends have been stealing the space-money and blowing up spaceships all across the quadrant"

"........." *click*

Learned your lesson I suppose.

Goons are the kind of people that will never amount to anything in their real life so they have to pretend like their badass in a video game. In other words, the scum of the Earth (and New Eden).

It's interesting to see people talk bad about tens of thousands of people,
dismissing them all as being the same.

They did that back in the 30s, too.


You should be hunted down and removed from the game, you sick freak.

did... did you just invoke godwin's law?

did... did you just invoke godwin's law?

The Goonswarm recruitment scam is nearly old as EVE itself. They only recruit from the Something Awful forums. If you are not a member of that and not recruited from there it is a scam. They offer to move your stuff it is a scam.

EVE Rule No1 Trust no one. 100% percent of the victims of scams, corp thefts, intel leaks, alliance thefts, and awoxings violated it.

Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of?
Could be really helpful for new players

Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of?
Could be really helpful for new players

Goonswarm recruitment scam...
If its not the oldest trick in the book, its close personal friend of the oldest.

Homework, google, 90% of the pilots in Eve, Goons themselves, asking in local, could of enlightened you to this scam...

Ok, you can get them to use this;

EvE is a game where, if you are not paying attention, you WILL get scammed.

Does that work for you?

Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?

NO

Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.

Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.

Is it possible to make a sticky about known scams that new players should be aware of?
Could be really helpful for new players

Lies, libel, and not the least bit of treachery by the creator of this thread. OP was a spy and was treated as such. Don't trust him. After attempting to dissolve The Glorious Socialist Goon Soviet, he is now trying feebly to damage our stellar reputation. Having his possessions taken and his ship destroyed was the least we could do to repay his nefarious actions.

and the obligatory childish denial...

Along with the obligatory broken sarcasm detector.

I don't know if their sarcasm detector is broken or not... I didn't feel it was important to speculate on that.

Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?

NO

Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.

Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.

I forgot to quote the poster, so ******* mad I am about this ****!

It's this stupid brainless behaviour that leads to **** like this in the first place!

AND IT'S JUST A ******* GAME! WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE IDIOTS!

Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?

NO

Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.

Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.

Highlighted your problem.

You are the poster boy for everything I've ever talked about on these forums lol.

You came to a game that everyone else knows about. People won't don't even play EVE know what EVE is like. Yet you downloaded a game client, created a character and started investing time and money into it, yet couldn't be arsed to Google 'EVE Online' before doing any of it.

You came to EVE not for EVE Online game play but because it has shiney ships, not understanding that EVE is an open world sandbox game. That's like playing Grand Theft Auto because it has nice cars and being surprised at all the crime and Hoe Stomping that occurs in it lol.

The company that makes EVE started 17 years ago in 1997 (and advertised what kind of game they were making). The game itself was launched in 2003 (11 years ago). That entire time no one has hidden what EVE online is, what it's about and what kind of gameplay it has.

And yet, despite all the above, somehow your irresponsibility (in not having a single clue about this game that you paid some form of money for) is someone Else's fault. Somehow, CCP is supposed to turn it's back on 17 years of history to 'do something' about you getting scammed...

I find people like this to be amazing...in a bad way.

When I said scams were bad, I meant good. You should feel good about my post, by which I mean bad.

I was only mentioning how a scammer can avoid posting in the corp recruitment channel by directly convoing people. CCP actually does investigate recruitment scams and does take action if there is an add in the channel. In my case the did not.

As also mentioned in my first post i learned my lesson and moved on. Some players don't and this is why they quit.
No need to get angry about it or take it personally. If you are finding people being amazingly bad then perhaps reassess your post which is most definitely erroneous

Let me first start off by saying I know I messed up and I am stupid for doing X and trusting them. But hey you live and learn and that's part of EVE and there's always tomorrow.

Goonswarm recruiting to kill there new members and take some of there stuff???
So today I was looking for a Corp which was in null, and that I can help support with my 8 accounts being a huge industry guy and all. A couple days ago I was invited by Lyeni of Outer World Industries [-OWI-] in Goonswarm Federation. Made it sound interesting in joining, was really just wanting to get into a corp with a settled Null system and continue playing the game and make billions a day again. However that was not the case with this story. Instead they had me pack up some things send over X via contract to haul over join the corp and jump my freighter out. Then I was tackled and killed and podded, they wanted me to eject ( lols ) I didn't. My total lose at the end of the day roughly 4b. Yes that is a good amount of money, and well I guess I was not cool enough for the Goons of EVE, it means little. Could I have prevented it? maybe if I wasn't so trustworthy idk?

Just thought I should share my story for the day for all to laugh at, or learn from or whatever you want. Life goes on and I will make my isk lose back in acouple days doesn't really matter when you have 8 accounts, just a shame I couldn't join.

Another case in point. Somehow I'm 'angry' and my post 'erroneous' lol. Yet, Of the 2 of us, one has never been scammed. Do you think no one has tried to conv/scam me in the last 7 years of my EVE life loo? I'm not angry, I'm dismayed at the idea that grown folks (average EVE age was stated and 27 or 28 last time CCP mentioned it) could be this clueless.

The same people who can't figure out a video game are the people voting in elections in Western Countries lol.

The point is (and this is reinforced by your response here) is that where you see a 'game problem', I see a 'personal problem'. YOU didn't do your homework, and got had for it. EVE isn't just any mmo, and the 'shiney space ships' that attract people are nothing more than game play tools.

The people who quit after getting scammed (of ganked) shouldn't have been playing in the 1st place. They should have taken a look at themselves, realized that they aren't mentally suited to a cutthroat environment, and choose another game to play.

EVE is no more 'dangerous' than a padded room is you are alert, aware and smart, it's a freaking lion's den if you are sloppy or dumb.

Judging from your tone, it's no wonder that you feel eve is a lion's Den. It can definitely be a hostile game to get into but i don't see how your opinion matters on who should play this game or not. Just because eve is currently a game that makes you happy and obviously attached to it as you defend its state so ferociously, does not mean your word carries the definition on how it should be in the long run.

Judging from your tone, it's no wonder that you feel eve is a lion's Den. It can definitely be a hostile game to get into but i don't see how your opinion matters on who should play this game or not. Just because eve is currently a game that makes you happy and obviously attached to it as you defend its state so ferociously, does not mean your word carries the definition on how it should be in the long run.

Just tell me why dang it

Do you want to get revenge on a goon? Find his facebook page, learn about your foe. How many employers would be happy to know they hired/are thinking of hiring a known 'gang member' , thief and associate of thief's. They can't complain as they meta game all the time.

Including elaborate scams from the recruitment channels such as finding your LF corp message and convoing you so that there is no way for CCP to track them down by their own add?

NO

Happened to me and CCP did absolutely nothing.

Many, many new players including myself joined Eve because of shiny spaceships, not because they wanted to research how to now get scammed in a new MMO. Its just something people generally don't anticipate as acceptable in an MMO because in-game scamming is generally not acceptable in other MMOs.

LMAO

See guys, i was right, this guy is just about everything I've ever talked about on these forums

EVE isn't a Lion's den for those who are aware. I typed that in plain English. It's a lion's den for folks like you.

As for my opinion on who should play the game or not, it is not common sense? Should a person who hates WWII era armored combat play World of Tanks? Should a person who thinks that Elf's and mages and being able to turn into a bear is stupid play WoW? Should a hard core communist subscribe to a game called "Reganomics Online' (lol)?

If a game doesn't make you happy, why play it when other games exist that might make you happy? That's why people like you are absolutely exasperating to folks like me lol.

But the part I bolded tells the ENTIRE story here. It suggests that you think EVE should be some way other than it is in the future.

Why? Why should EVE cater to people who can't Google? Why should EVE change because some people (hell, most gamers) are incapable of being honest with themselves about who they are (thus making them unable to make informed entertainment software and pass time choices)?

Just tell me why dang it

It's not as if there aren't a half dozen Goonswarm corps that do openly recruit from the general EVE community. People just see the biggest one and go "oooh shiny" without bothering to check anything.

Let me give it to you. You win! Time to move on...

Why? Why should EVE cater to people who can't Google? Why should EVE change because some people (hell, most gamers) are incapable of being honest with themselves about who they are (thus making them unable to make informed entertainment software and pass time choices)?

Just tell me why dang it

Just to clear all of this up, our automated system discovered that the OP signed up to our forums using the same email address as Prencleeve Grothsmore has used. This is the 4th time this year that we have caught this individual attempting to join our ranks.

2. Be respectful toward others at all times.

5. Trolling is prohibited.

8. Posting of personal information is prohibited.

Learned your lesson I suppose.

Goons are the kind of people that will never amount to anything in their real life so they have to pretend like their badass in a video game. In other words, the scum of the Earth (and New Eden).

LMAO

That guy sounds brilliant.

He didn't try to join Goonfleet/waffe, he tried to join a member corporation & yet again, got caught out the same way he was caught out the last 20 or so times he's tried to join.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.

yes thankyou for providing this information. i have learned a lot today. in retrospect, it seems rather obvious that the largest corporation in goonswarm federation would have more than six members. a little too obvious.

Then why over state the obvious? Ohhh......nvm shat posting as always.

Carry on then.

Then why over state the obvious? Ohhh......nvm shat posting as always.

Carry on then.

It's not as if there aren't a half dozen Goonswarm corps that do openly recruit from the general EVE community. People just see the biggest one and go "oooh shiny" without bothering to check anything.

i'm just having fun counting the posts that criticise the op for not googling goonwaffe recruitment or not knowing that goonwaffe recruits from an outside community when they're showing at the same time they didn't read the post they're criticising.

that's it. that's the joke. hahaha.

Do you actually believe this horseshit? Or is this some kind of RP?

You know, I've encountered real and i mean real life actual bad people in my life (and not just due to my job, when i was a kid there was an actual honest to God cross burning near where I lived) and I'm not butt hurt enough about it to sling 2nd grade insults from behind the double anonymity of an npc corp alt on a video game forum lol.

Goons are not magic, you're playing a video game with guns, if you don't like them stop being rather....feline.... about it and kill them if you don't like them. I do .

Well most of us are pretty rich in real life & don't work anymore, but I guess keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel good.

bad case idk what your talking about? I Joined one of your guess corp, registered and accepted on the forums, jumped out and died. A lose but not even close to half or a dent to my wallet. Lesson learned don't trust anyone regardless if it takes them 3 days of convincing you to join.

If by horseshit then you mean truth? Then yes, the only kind of people that play a video game for the sole purpose of ruining someone else's experience are the kind of people that have ****** lives in real life, like Goons.

You say I should just go shoot the Goons... sure, do you even play EvE? Goons might all be scummy douchebags but they have numbers and experience and isk on their side. Just because someone can't physically (virtually?) fight doesn't make their voice and opinion less valid, Goons are scum and it's that simple, there is years of evidence to support this. Whether they hide behind the veil of "it's just a video game" or "we're just RPing bad guys" it doesn't really matter.

Just to clear all of this up, our automated system discovered that the OP signed up to our forums using the same email address as Prencleeve Grothsmore has used. This is the 4th time this year that we have caught this individual attempting to join our ranks.

Lets see, you call what I said a 2nd grade insult. (thats a 2nd grade insult in itself, so good job with being a hypocrit!), you talk about insults from behind the double anonymity of an npc corp alt (this is actually my main, I just don't want to dedicate myself to a corp and like flying solo, and also anyone on the internet hides behind anonymity or have you just discovered this magical thing called the interwebs?)

You say I should just go shoot the Goons... sure, do you even play EvE? Goons might all be scummy douchebags but they have numbers and experience and isk on their side. Just because someone can't physically (virtually?) fight doesn't make their voice and opinion less valid, Goons are scum and it's that simple, there is years of evidence to support this. Whether they hide behind the veil of "it's just a video game" or "we're just RPing bad guys" it doesn't really matter.

Sure, kid. Anyone that actually calls them self rich over the internet obviously isn't. And even if you do have money, posting about it to try and defend yourself shows how much of a insecure douchebag you are in real life that you have to grief in a video game to get your kicks.

I thought it was common knowledge that Goons don't recruit in game, only through their forums. Well, I want to feel bad for you OP but the fact that you actually wanted to be a member of the most hated alliance in the game stifles that somewhat.

Maybe try Pandemic Legion next, they're only the second most hated alliance and not quite as bad.

Glad to know Goons can't be attacked. Knowing I can ignore the roving bands of malediction interceptors and hot dropping stealth bombers that rampage through Deklein every day, all day, is certainly a relief.

multi billion isk autism chariot.