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SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.05 21:19:00 -
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Grimwood wrote:And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus
Hmmmm.... |
Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
8
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Posted - 2014.07.05 22:21:00 -
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Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus
Oh yes, please look through our killboard and tell me more about how we're in bed with Waffles and Exodus.
I'm fairly certain that we kill more Waffles than Squids these days... at least they actually come out to play.
And freaking Exodus welped a galmil AHAC fleet just today, far more effectively than you guys have ever managed. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
361
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Posted - 2014.07.05 23:29:00 -
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Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus
Lol angry? i lost a cap an laughed my ass off on coms because of how fail cals and rzr are and the fact that they had to call in rest of cfc when there **** was getting pushed in...
Also about exodus u do realise 2 hrs after the akidagi fight we were balls deep fighting them in reschard/mercomiser so please tell me again how were in bed with each other
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Marcus Alvin Tivianne
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.07.06 04:34:00 -
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CFC needs summer content. What better content than helicopter-dicking a bunch of irrevocably smug gallente amatures in "their," warzone? lol |
Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
175
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:34:00 -
[95] - Quote
Marcus Alvin Tivianne wrote:CFC needs summer content. What better content than helicopter-dicking a bunch of irrevocably smug gallente amatures in "their," warzone? lol
Amazing what happens when you blue up everyone and their unborn sister....
I'm sure someone will correct me on this but I'm pretty sure Galmil owns more space percentage wise for the gal/cal warzone theater vs goons owning the nullsec theatre? So yeah pretty sure it's our warzone.
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wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
36
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:56:00 -
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hilarious how getting roflstomped just makes the gallente circlejerk harder
"caldari cant win without batphone trolololol"
"time to spank these caldari out of the warzone for batphoning on us herpa dur durrrrr" |
Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
9
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Posted - 2014.07.06 08:02:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:hilarious how getting roflstomped just makes the gallente circlejerk harder
"caldari cant win without batphone trolololol"
"time to spank these caldari out of the warzone for batphoning on us herpa dur durrrrr"
Not really a batphone when it's a reliable drop in every major engagement over the last few weeks, but whatev. I'm just wondering when RZR will just join CalMil for real, maybe then they'll start taking some systems back. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 08:27:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus I dont think anyone in gal mil is angry. Mostly watching with curiosity at these events. It was already clear that every single BC/BS fleet from mira has RZR support, and indeed we were holding field vs squids and RZR no problem. Now it is clear that RZR will call goons to kill a 35 man fleet and drop over 150 more people. So we just have to change strategy. Unfortunately, the only strategy left is kicking squids out of low sec once more. And with no pendulum expect to be there for quite a while if thats the direction we go.
For someone who's not angry you sure sound angry. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Repeat 0ffenders
953
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Posted - 2014.07.06 09:55:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus I dont think anyone in gal mil is angry. Mostly watching with curiosity at these events. It was already clear that every single BC/BS fleet from mira has RZR support, and indeed we were holding field vs squids and RZR no problem. Now it is clear that RZR will call goons to kill a 35 man fleet and drop over 150 more people. So we just have to change strategy. Unfortunately, the only strategy left is kicking squids out of low sec once more. And with no pendulum expect to be there for quite a while if thats the direction we go. For someone who's not angry you sure sound angry.
Not sure how you got that impression. I was pissed at our fight in merco but not that akidagi thing hours before it.
I would be pissed if every large fleet i entered was simply there to create risk free content for other larger groups. One such occasion (at least) im pretty sure cal mil gad decisive advantage overall, but mira still lit the cyno resulting in our deagro and the end of what was shaping up to be a good fight for Cal mil.
Also, if we had dropped 3-10x your numbers of null bears on you every fight for the last 4-5 weeks i doubt we would see a single squid fleet in the entire war zone, not to mention what the forums would look like lol.
In he end, if we have to fight squids + a whole bunch of nullbears im sure well be ok, its not like its the first time :)
wilgotna wrote:hilarious how getting roflstomped just makes the gallente circlejerk harder
"caldari cant win without batphone trolololol"
"time to spank these caldari out of the warzone for batphoning on us herpa dur durrrrr"
This is what angry looks like. Were fighting 30 vs 300 and apparently were still not sufficiently challenged lol. Wilgotnas concern trolling seems to be due to some butthurt that he is dwelling on. On behalf of gallente i apologise if we upset you wil. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:31:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Also, if we had dropped 3-10x your numbers of null bears on you every fight for the last 4-5 weeks.
Does this happen all the time? Or only when you break out shiney stuff that completely outclasses anything CalMil can bring to the field? Does Razor drop your T1 cruiser fleets and AF fleets? I honestly don't know but my own corp's killboards don't show Razor being involved in the fights we're in more than about once a week and those tend to be very idiosyncratic fights, such as the last one. I mean, really how often do you see BS fleets in the warzone and how strategically important are they when they do come out? We all know that the heavy lifting isn't done in fleets like these. Not sure how GHIOT's boards look but I'm certain if Razor appear frequently there that is in no way representative of CalMil as a whole.
As to why you seem angry, it's pretty obvious from the comments here across GalMil suggesting that these rare fights are a reason to kick CalMil as a whole out of the warzone when you claim you wouldn't do so anyway. The threat itself obviously falsifies the claim that Razor gets involved in 'every fight', as kicking us out certainly wouldn't be possible if they did, but the simple fact that you all want a punitive response makes it pretty clear you're pissed off and that all the 'I'm not angry we lost' stuff is coming through heavily gritted teeth. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Repeat 0ffenders
954
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:45:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Also, if we had dropped 3-10x your numbers of null bears on you every fight for the last 4-5 weeks.
Does this happen all the time? Or only when you break out shiney stuff that completely outclasses anything CalMil can bring to the field? Does Razor drop your T1 cruiser fleets and AF fleets? I honestly don't know but my own corp's killboards don't show Razor being involved in the fights we're in more than about once a week and those tend to be very idiosyncratic fights, such as the last one. I mean, really how often do you see BS fleets in the warzone and how strategically important are they when they do come out? We all know that the heavy lifting isn't done in fleets like these. As to why you seem angry, it's pretty obvious from the comments here across GalMil suggesting that these rare fights are a reason to kick us out of the warzone when you claim you wouldn't do so anyway. The threat itself obviously falsifies the claim that Razor gets involved in 'every fight', as kicking us out certainly wouldn't be possible if they did, but the simple fact that you all want a punitive response makes it pretty clear you're pissed off and that all the 'I'm not angry we lost' stuff is coming through heavily gritted teeth.
Sorry if implied it was every fight, i assumed it was obvious that i was talking about the bi-weekly BS/BC bait fleet mira puts out and hits structures with, or any other cal mil fleet where mira will have RZR waiting even if the FC doesnt know (as per enaluri).
Its not easy taking the warzone. Sometimes there needs to be a narrative to incentivise people into effort. The phrase 'dont get mad, get even' applies here. Most of gallente have no interest in working with any of the local pirates to curb RZR's ishtar fleet and tbh RZR lose to our local groups often enough without our help. That leaves us with the preferential FW related response of greater resolve and coordination to do the hard thing, as opposed to hitting ALT-F8 for cyno and letting someone else ave all the fun :) |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:53:00 -
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Narrative is king  |
Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
370
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Posted - 2014.07.06 12:08:00 -
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It's calmil what did you expect :(
After s... evoke , after siting on TEST di.k , now they just drink some RzR juice , maybe when their stomach will be full , they will stop being null sec dolls, i hope so really because i know they cand do some pretty good stuff if they want to
RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 12:55:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:It's calmil what did you expect :(
After s... evoke , after siting on TEST di.k , now they just drink some RzR juice , maybe when their stomach will be full , they will stop being null sec dolls, i hope so really because i know they cand do some pretty good stuff if they want to
Bizarrely implying that regular CalMil corps had any control at all over, or responsibility for, the decisions of either TEST or EVOKE to join FW.
Also conveniently ignoring the fact that most current members of the militia were not around when EVOKE was and that half of the major CalMil organisations didnGÇÖt exist then. Just because GalMil has a long-standing and stable membership base, such that itGÇÖs reasonable to identify GalMil then with GalMil now, doesnGÇÖt mean the same is true on the Caldari side.
Look, we get it. YouGÇÖre bitter that you got your asses handed to you when youGÇÖre used to having things your own way but you know as well as I do that a wild Razor fleet appearing in the warzone very occasionally and at the behest of one corp has a) no strategic impact whatsoever, and b) says nothing at all about the nature or state of CalMil as a whole.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Repeat 0ffenders
954
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:41:00 -
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Epikurus wrote: a) no strategic impact whatsoever
Not strictly true. You lost Innia because of falcon. I wont go into the short story but any choice you make, even in the smallest engagements canl have a ripple effect. |
Capitol One
Snuff Box
143
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Posted - 2014.07.06 15:28:00 -
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I'm just confused why the caldari militia is batphoning razor on snuffbox when we're trying to cozy up to the caldari in anticipation of us joining the caldari militia. 
What ever happened to space-honour?
(Also, I don't think caldari have been a serious competitor vs other lowsec entities since wolfsbrigade left in 2011.) |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:14:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: a) no strategic impact whatsoever Not strictly true. You lost Innia because of falcon. I wont go into the short story but any choice you make, even in the smallest engagements canl have a ripple effect.
You're correct. I should have phrased that as 'minimal direct strategic impact'. It's entirely possible that it does have knock-on effects, although sensitive dependence on initial conditions only allows that the butterfly may cause ripple effects, not that it necessarily does. But the possibility is there. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2335
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:58:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:I'm just confused why the caldari militia is batphoning razor on snuffbox when we're trying to cozy up to the caldari in anticipation of us joining the caldari militia. What ever happened to space-honour? (Also, I don't think caldari have been a serious competitor vs other lowsec entities since wolfsbrigade left in 2011.)
Any hot dropping entity that wants to hammer RZR can send their contact info to me.
/me gets cynos ready.
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Harrylon Atild
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.07.06 17:13:00 -
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Barely a year ago. Long I pondered my FCGÇÖs cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise. But from free Cal to free Cal the word was spread that bold RZR and his three hundred so far from home laid down their lives not just for the militia but for all Caldari and the promise this state holds. Now here on this ragged patch of space called Black Rise, Gal hordes face obliteration. Just there the snail-eaters shiptoast, sheer terror and gripping tight their F1 with icy fingers, knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the cynos and hot-drops of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the grid at ten thousand Neutrals commanding thirty thousand free Caldari. The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one. Good odds for any Caldari. This day we rescue a region from smugposting and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks men, to RZR and the brave three hundred. To victory! |
Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Enemy Spotted.
6
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:59:00 -
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Lets be honest. -
The Gallente have been dropping Faction Battleships and some very tasty fleets that the Caldari can not fight. Then when we do form a battleship fleet to fight you, Which you had 3 days notice of. it would have been quite a good fight yet you decided to bring in Capitals, i mean if your going to up the game every time there is something going on and bring in caps then of course we will make sure we have some back up, Yet lets be honest you was on our Teamspeak listening to the fleet and Raz come in due to the fact there was a fight not to help us. CFC & Razor also shot us.
Also before you go crying about us getting friends in. Shall we take a quick look back at JUSTK mails? Where there CEO XG tells his corp that they are going to go play around with a POS, BUT Don't worry Waffles has offered to help them, When you are flying Better ships with better skilled players and mostly out number us. you ask for help. Shall we sit back and get our ass kicked or ask for help?
FW: JUSTK POS out of reinforce 0:38 Wednesday
From: X Gallentius
Sent: 2014-06-23 13:20:00
To: Justified Chaos
Martoh 7-5
Goon Carrier already killed:
Kill: Valkyre Primax (Archon)
Snigg interested in helping us out again.
More details to follow.
- AGAIN -
Enough Said.
SnuffBox.- You was not the intended target when you come in, We was baiting the Gallente and you turned up was just unlucky.
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO
Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
41
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Posted - 2014.07.07 19:20:00 -
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Oh that POS. You mean the one where WAFFLES were only interested in seeing if more Goon caps would show up, which they didnt. And when we repped that POS they showed up in a Naga fleet with Basis and reinforced that POS we just repped. We were going to engage them but we just didnt have the numbers. Would have been a damn good fight too. But yep, GalMil is totally in cahoots with half of low-sec.  |
JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Repeat 0ffenders
229
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Posted - 2014.07.07 19:25:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:(Also, I don't think caldari have been a serious competitor vs other lowsec entities since wolfsbrigade left in 2011.)
I'm sure you'll find some evidence
though the details I'm not privy
the Alliance Happy Endings
of Naz and Poison Ivvy
The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2337
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Posted - 2014.07.07 19:28:00 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Oh that POS. You mean the one where WAFFLES were only interested in seeing if more Goon caps would show up, which they didnt. And when we repped that POS they showed up in a Naga fleet with Basis and reinforced that POS we just repped. We were going to engage them but we just didnt have the numbers. Would have been a damn good fight too. But yep, GalMil is totally in cahoots with half of low-sec. WAFFLES also killed the first POS (before we could stront it) we put up after we (well, Dei-Telum did most of the work, we just whored by killing their fleet before they could finish the job), took down the first offline POS. THEN, Snigg tried to ransom the POS location for 500 mil.
So, yeah, not only are we in bed with WAFFLES (thanks for the contacts Bodaa), but our 500 million isk retainer to Exodus. is paying off handsomely. |
Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Enemy Spotted.
6
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:04:00 -
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So.. You called in Waffles they got no action ( they hate that ) so they turned on you..
That is nothing new with Waffles.
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO
Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
290
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:10:00 -
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Dear Mira -
We're Gallente, we'll hop in bed with anyone if they'll show us a good time - and the more the merrier.
Kisses,
JUSTK |
Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Enemy Spotted.
8
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:12:00 -
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Im quite happy, Listening to PERUNGA Cry like a girl, but also asking his own fleet to go and loot he field so the can replace his own ship when 3 Capitals died made us ******* laugh :-)
Love you Perunga
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO
Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
290
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:22:00 -
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Mira deVorsha wrote:Im quite happy, Listening to PERUNGA Cry like a girl, but also asking his own fleet to go and loot he field so the can replace his own ship when 3 Capitals died made us ******* laugh :-)
Love you Perunga
So lemme get this straight, you whine about us temp bluing WAFFLES, and then crow from the heavens about calling in RZR *and* the rest of CFC???
No wonder your side is such a mess. |
Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Enemy Spotted.
10
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:26:00 -
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I have to say.. Im quite honored you think i have the contacts to call in the CFC, As stated we have called in Razor before. But they no longer work with us due to the fact they believe i am a PL spy.
They came away killing you and us. . It was a CFC free for all evening.
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO
Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |
Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
9
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:26:00 -
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Mira deVorsha wrote:So.. You called in Waffles they got no action ( they hate that ) so they turned on you..
That is nothing new with Waffles.
Sigh... here's how it went. There was an offline goon pos which Dei-Telem engaged, we killed them, then popped the pos. We drop one of our own, then Waffles show up and pop it before it onlines. They leave, we drop another and stront.
Later that night, Goon corp jumps in 5 dreads+2 Carriers to RF it (these have all been smalls). They do so, but we have a couple inties that manage to tackle the carriers after they **** up their extract (for some reason the carriers were too far from each other to refit, and no one seemed to bother with a depot).
We send out call, but have 5 people online so v0v. Someone says to contact Waffles, as they're nextdoor and have some interest in blowing up Goons, so they bring in some talos's and kaboom. Unfortunately one of the carriers got out because ECM drones and we're bad. There was never a blue here, even, just an opportunity for an easy cap kill. We offered, they thanked us for the killmail.
That mail you just quoted was about the RF timer following this engagement. We expected a cap blob, and Waffles expressed interest in fighting said cap blob if they showed up. They didn't, so we fought Waffles instead. They RFed tower again with a naga fleet and we all went about our business as usual.
For what it's worth, Mira, what you're doing with Razor is a real damn shame. Used to be, FW folks on both sides would team up to explode people who tried to 3rd party on our little corner of EVE. Further, low sec entities in general would team up to beat up on the nullbears who think they can stomp around lowsec.
Now? We go into any fight BC+ assuming that there's 40+ razor ishtars on the other side of your cyno. You complain about us up-shipping you, but what's the alternative? The times we've brought equalish forces, you light the cyno and Razor pile in anyway. Hell, we showed up with fewer numbers to an ARRANGED FIGHT with you and you ***** that we went to a large plex instead of sun, so you refused to take the fight. We chase and fight on a gate, boom 40 razor ishtars + support instantly.
The funny part about Nenna/Aki this time was that even Razor couldn't handle the fight, and had to phone up the chain of command to drop 150 more goons on top, heh.
Like I said, it's a shame that all you guys seem to bother doing anymore is baiting for -insertgrouphere-. I'd like to think that if I had to sink to the level of nullsec pet, I'd at least get something tangible out of it. |
Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Enemy Spotted.
10
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:33:00 -
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You are infact Correct. we use to team up. Then people like Perunga took over the Gallente Militia and guess what.. Everytime we said Hey lets go against Snuff or someone when they are out. We got ..I.. So if he is going to show us the finger and just blob us with capitals what does he expect
Also your saying the fight could not be handled again what you are missing is that they came in for a free for all not that fight they was locally Look at the killboard they killed each other after.
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO
Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |
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