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Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.26 10:55:00 -
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So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
24
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Posted - 2014.06.26 13:16:00 -
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Recent sighting!
Seriously, though, what timeframe are you talking about. There were plenty around at the weekend so do you just mean the last 3 days have been quiet? If so, that's a pretty small sample size to draw any conclusions from ...
Edit - Just to add, I'm not sure why waffles would be too significant as there is only one Cal alliance who they might impact significantly. |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
35
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:00:00 -
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I'm just chalking this up to global warming. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
25
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:40:00 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm just chalking this up to global warming.
Would you like to know more?
http://www.squid-world.com/squids-and-global-warming/
Quote: Squids' bodies are able to process food easier when the water is warmer. As a result the squid will grow to be larger than otherwise. This is going to be significant in their ability to survive overall out there against predators. The smaller a squid is the more likely it will be consumed. This can lead to more squid due to them becoming mature and having offspring before they become food for something else.
Be afraid! |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
36
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:16:00 -
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Quote: Others though believe that squid populations will continue to increase due to climate change. They also worry though that there will be too many of them to be able to survive on the amount of food that is readily available for them. This can lead to large numbers of them dying off due to starvation. It can also reduce the value of the genetic pool because those that do survive many not get adequate nutrition.
Sounds about right. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
764
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:32:00 -
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Wikipedia wrote:deep water squid have the greatest known pen1s length relative to body size of all mobile animals Good for you!
But there's no mention of balls...  |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:36:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups 1. They are in perpetual Tier 1 right now, and even their home systems are getting hit by plexers. So, they are balling up a bit. 2. Plexes are harder. Their guys are probably turning more to missions to make their isk instead of being available for fights in plexes. 3. In our area Sniggwaffe has returned and put a big damper on Squid activity in Kinnaka. Many squids seem to pile up in Kehjari instead, or go to high sec. 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:05:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:[quote=Yun Kuai] 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking.
Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri. We were there on a training weekend and only needed to keep the contested level high enough to keep you interested. ThatGÇÖs not to say we wouldnGÇÖt have liked to take the system but maximally efficient plexing took a firm back seat to a) rotating FCs in for some experience and doctrine dissemination (10 or more guys from four alliances had a go at leading the fleet over the weekend), b) testing new doctrines, and c) practicing doctrines, which we would often stay in when the plex-efficient thing to do would be to reship.
If anyone came away with a feeling that they were ramming their head into a brick wall after a weekend during which we managed to not only field decent cruiser fleets as a militia for the first time in recent memory but also support them with proper logistics and beat you guys with them more often than not, during which we destroyed 50% more in the value of your ships than were destroyed on our side, and during which we made great strides in many other areas, such as supply, cooperation and coordination, all while deliberately hitting one of the hardest targets on the map, then, well, they really werenGÇÖt paying attention.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:13:00 -
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Looked pretty fail from my POV. Maybe you guys did better at other times.
Glad you got your doctrines straightened out. |

flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2279
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Posted - 2014.06.26 20:17:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote: 3. In our area Sniggwaffe has returned and put a big damper on Squid activity in Kinnaka. Many squids seem to pile up in Kehjari instead, or go to high sec.
From my POV this isn't the case.I roam in that pocket a lot the last weeks. The active squids here is mostly from the Dei-telum alliance wich if i spotted right seem to have their base in hykanima , so it would make sense they are active in this pocket.I don't see the other big caldari alliances present here much if at all.
Though i agree that kinakka , wich had a lot of squid activity , has now fallen back to whipped cream waffles and maple sirup with allmost no squids to be spotted there.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.26 21:41:00 -
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flakeys wrote: From my POV this isn't the case.I roam in that pocket a lot the last weeks. The active squids here is mostly from the Dei-telum alliance wich if i spotted right seem to have their base in hykanima , ....
Yeah looked at the kb and it's mostly Dei-telum in Kehjari. Templis must have moved to Icho or to the "East" since a smaller portion of their kills are in our area and more of them seem to be over there.
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Cromwell Savage
quantum cats syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
185
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Posted - 2014.06.27 00:34:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote: 1. They are in perpetual Tier 1 right now, and even their home systems are getting hit by plexers. So, they are balling up a bit.
Yep...even more reason to keep taking systems....
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Why I stay in FW with this toon I don't know... |

Theroine
Justified Chaos
90
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Posted - 2014.06.27 00:57:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri.
Yeah, I didn't receive that memo, could you put me on the mailing list for future correspondence. Cheers!
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Dread Operative
Snuff Box
325
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Posted - 2014.06.27 01:40:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups
The squids were acting as bait for RZR (with batphone) to attempt to gank some SNUFF. They went dormant after the fights didnt go the way they wanted. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.27 01:55:00 -
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Theroine wrote:Epikurus wrote:Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri.
Yeah, I didn't receive that memo, could you put me on the mailing list for future correspondence. Cheers! I'll forward the link to you next time.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1223
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Posted - 2014.06.27 02:07:00 -
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I have always said that if Templis get their **** together they will be unstoppable.
And now rumor has it that Templis will have a proper Caldari doctrine with the appropriate FC soon.
If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
Docked since 2009. |

Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
63
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Posted - 2014.06.27 07:28:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:X Gallentius wrote:[quote=Yun Kuai] 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking. Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri. We were there on a training weekend and only needed to keep the contested level high enough to keep you interested. ThatGÇÖs not to say we wouldnGÇÖt have liked to take the system but maximally efficient plexing took a firm back seat to a) rotating FCs in for some experience and doctrine dissemination (10 or more guys from four alliances had a go at leading the fleet over the weekend), b) testing new doctrines, and c) practicing doctrines, which we would often stay in when the plex-efficient thing to do would be to reship. If anyone came away with a feeling that they were ramming their head into a brick wall after a weekend during which we managed to not only field decent cruiser fleets as a militia for the first time in recent memory but also support them with proper logistics and beat you guys with them more often than not, during which we destroyed 50% more in the value of your ships than were destroyed on our side, and during which we made great strides in many other areas, such as supply, cooperation and coordination, all while deliberately hitting one of the hardest targets on the map, then, well, they really werenGÇÖt paying attention.
I don't want to be too much of an ******* because I like what you're trying to do with Calmill. But a few corrections :p
You can still run into squids occasionally, but we are used to a time when places like Enaluri, Innia, OMS/Heyd, Rakapas, Eha once upon a time, were major CalMill systems. Now the great pillars of Caldari strength lay in ruin, we struggle to find exactly where they all are? Not Kinakka or Innia, not in Heyd or OMS, not in Tama or Rakapas, rumors are there are some squirreled away in the Kurala constellation, but people arent sure exactly where. Conversely Galmills influence extends across entire regions of the map, with multiple home systems that have stood for literally years.
WRT to Enaluri, and taking nothing away from those that live there, it is the newest home system of the Gallente. In terms of where supporting corps/allainces are and logistics, it would be closer to the easiest target to strike than the hardest. That would be on a good day, the day the Enaluri thing began however we had just wrapped up in Heyd, further stressing the logistics. Also the incredibly low contested rate throughout put a serious dampener on any militia wide assistance.
From the fights I saw, things were pretty rough on the squids. I saw their Kestrel fleets die to our AF fleets, and our Kestrel fleets kill their AF fleets. For large periods of time Miras group were sitting in a large/medium baiting for RZR (I'm not sure how this fits with 'testing' system push doctrines.) In fact I'm not sure I witnessed any gallente fleets lose a fight, I did see a couple of derps from T3s trying to be funny, but we wouldn't be throwing those into the isk analysis would we? Seeing as this was about testing doctrines :p
Again though I'm not on 24 hours a day so not saying we didnt lose some fights, just it wasn't my take away impression.
Also, you brought up the AU tz issue in the document, but it never brought up the proposed answer, please, I'm curious :) |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
290
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Posted - 2014.06.27 08:08:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
We eagerly await that day. Until then, we'll pay our dues at the school of hard knocks, picking fights with the local neutral crews. Should be interesting to see what happens when the pendulum starts to swing again. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 09:39:00 -
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Yuri Antollare wrote:
WRT to Enaluri, and taking nothing away from those that live there, it is the newest home system of the Gallente. In terms of where supporting corps/allainces are and logistics, it would be closer to the easiest target to strike than the hardest.
Perhaps the easiest of the hardest targets (i.e. Gallente home systems) but certainly not amongst the easiest targets on the map.
Quote: From the fights I saw, things were pretty rough on the squids. I saw their Kestrel fleets die to our AF fleets, and our Kestrel fleets kill their AF fleets. ... In fact I'm not sure I witnessed any gallente fleets lose a fight, I did see a couple of derps from T3s trying to be funny, but we wouldn't be throwing those into the isk analysis would we? Seeing as this was about testing doctrines :p
I guess I'm mainly thinking of fights like these:
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6033140&e=20&t=qaubuvb
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6032310&e=20&t=aquuvvb
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6032265&e=15&t=afqqvvb
(edit: the forums are mangling these addresses by inserting amp;amp; into them three times for some reason - you'll need to manually delete that addition to get the BR)
I also wouldn't discount all the T3 losses. In a battle where you bring a T2/T3 cruiser fleet plus battleships and faction battleships against a T1 cruiser fleet and lose a T3 in the pitched engagement, that's just a straightforward loss.
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6033124&e=20&t=brufavr
I'll give you the Zealot as a derp though - he warped into our fleet completely unsupported and didn't stand a chance. The Loki, not so much. The second Loki, I can't remember but that one may well have done something stupid.
On the Kessies vs AFs, we were happy trading a handful of kestrels for each of your assault frigates, so don't have too much of a problem with that phase of the fight as our numbers were a bit low. Not so happy about the battles where we lost assault frigates to your kestrels. One related thing that came out of the weekend was how much we need to work on our skirmishing. You guys are able to do great work slowing us down when you are outnumbered and that is something we really need to emulate (and which connects to the AU tz stuff below). Item 77b on the 'to do' list.
Quote: For large periods of time Miras group were sitting in a large/medium baiting for RZR (I'm not sure how this fits with 'testing' system push doctrines.)
The fact that you interpreted this in this way is interesting. We were actually sitting in the larges and mediums looking for more practice with the cruiser doctrine. I'm not sure why you thought we were baiting at this point but it does explain why you didn't come and play during this period. Obviously, baiting in plexes would have been entirely counter-productive to our aims for the weekend.
Quote: Also, you brought up the AU tz issue in the document, but it never brought up the proposed answer, please, I'm curious :)
It's a very tricky one as it's not something that is easy to correct for n terms of doctrine or strategy, since itGÇÖs really a manpower issue which is almost impossible to exert direct control over. We had some success holding back the attrition of system control through most of the first AU tz by using a hero-FC who was willing to go without sleep and managed to keep the loss to a manageable level. However, it was bought home to us just how important AU is when, after he stood down, we lost something like 4% in just the hour after downtime. Long and the short is, itGÇÖs a work in progress but some militia-wide work on skirmishing will go a long way. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
357
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:22:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:I have always said that if Templis get their **** together they will be unstoppable.
And now rumor has it that Templis will have a proper Caldari doctrine with the appropriate FC soon.
If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
Nah they just copied our doctrines GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
946
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:31:00 -
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Yuri Antollare wrote: Again though I'm not on 24 hours a day so not saying we didnt lose some fights, just it wasn't my take away impression.
Also, you brought up the AU tz issue in the document, but it never brought up the proposed answer, please, I'm curious :)
In truth we did struggle to effectively and efficiently engage squid crapacal fleet. Mainly due to no one being asked to supply a specific solution. Thankfully CQB found a moa osprey solution they had somehow lost down the back of their corp hangers sofa.
Uninterestingly, as the bulk of our US guys logged off squids would only get stronger. We really had no option but to disengage in the early AU tz. Well, i did have 2 venture alts completing plexes in enaluri that night from under the nose of a 50 man caldari BS/Bc fleet who seemed more interested in bashing structures to line up another slaughter of RZR.
Speaking of RZR, can someone explain to me how, when we dropped a rev in pyne the other day to blap a squid chimmy. When RZR got there with 25 ishtards and 2 broadswords, did they not infinipoint the rev instead of pulling range? Our kitchen sink wasnt exactly going to hold up lol. RZR has to be the worst entity operating in black rise currently.
Veskrashen wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
We eagerly await that day. Until then, we'll pay our dues at the school of hard knocks, picking fights with the local neutral crews. Should be interesting to see what happens when the pendulum starts to swing again.
The pendulum was removed last patch. |

Silverbackyererse
Nasranite Watch
66
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:32:00 -
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For the AU TZ issue...........
You just gotta place a six pack of stubbies at the warp-in of each and every plex that spawns post DT.
Don't cheap out and use VB though. That just attracts the Minmatar catalyst alts like flies around ****. 
Chuck a couple of F(r)eddo's into the mix with some quality grog and b4 you know it you're a few % to the good.
Too easy!
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Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:57:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: The fact that you interpreted this in this way is interesting. We were actually sitting in the larges and mediums looking for more practice with the cruiser doctrine. I'm not sure why you thought we were baiting at this point but it does explain why you didn't come and play during this period. Obviously, baiting in plexes would have been entirely counter-productive to our aims for the weekend.
Well, the fact that RZR was sat on the aki gate in icho for about an hour and later on the ena gate in aki for a short while while you guys ran only larges would somewhat contradict your impression of the situation.
Not everything RZR does is connected to CalMil. They have minds (of sorts) of their own and their gate camps were a surprise to us when we ran through them to reship. I suspect that they were just attracted to the area by the fights, as Waffles had been the night before. In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
946
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:04:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: The fact that you interpreted this in this way is interesting. We were actually sitting in the larges and mediums looking for more practice with the cruiser doctrine. I'm not sure why you thought we were baiting at this point but it does explain why you didn't come and play during this period. Obviously, baiting in plexes would have been entirely counter-productive to our aims for the weekend.
Well, the fact that RZR was sat on the aki gate in icho for about an hour and later on the ena gate in aki for a short while while you guys ran only larges would somewhat contradict your impression of the situation. Not everything RZR does is connected to CalMil. They have minds (of sorts) of their own and their gate camps were a surprise to us when we ran through them to reship. I suspect that they were just attracted to the area by the fights, as Waffles had been the night before. In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing.
Im not sayng you are lying. Im just saying you are a bit ignorant. If you think you called them or not, it still prevented a fight in the larges since they are blue to you, had eyes in system and direction from mira (god help them). |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
357
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:06:00 -
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Epikurus wrote: In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing.
jup cos cynos can be lit for rzr in plexes.... you claim there not with you guys but seem to be in the area erry time u guys grow a set of balls and field nething bigger than a cruiser.... coincidence im sure GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:18:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Epikurus wrote: In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing. jup cos cynos can be lit for rzr in plexes.... you claim there not with you guys but seem to be in the area erry time u guys grow a set of balls and field nething bigger than a cruiser.... coincidence im sure 
It doesn't really matter where the cyno is lit, does it? There is no need to light a cyno in a plex to make bridging in a response force a far more effective way to gank than having them sit in plain sight for an hour.
Also - your writing ... it burns 
Crosi Wesdo wrote: If you think you called them or not, it still prevented a fight in the larges since they are blue to you, had eyes in system and direction from mira (god help them).
Possible, I guess, but rather unfortunate if so. I would hope Mira wouldn't do something like that behind everyone else's back.
Quote: Im not saying you are lying. Im just saying you are a bit ignorant.
Poetry  |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
357
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:59:00 -
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I see you didnt get my point it didnt matter whether or not they were titan humping or sat on that gate we knew they were coming due to the fact of spys / and you guys bringing out bigger toys (which was a clear indication) GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:11:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:I see you didnt get my point it didnt matter whether or not they were titan humping or sat on that gate we knew they were coming due to the fact of spys / and you guys bringing out bigger toys (which was a clear indication)
Both you and your spies seem to have got your intel confused. The bigger toys and support came out later for the POCO bashes. Both were discussed while we were sitting in the plexes but neither were for the plexes. I can understand why you might have misconnected the dots but at the time the RZR fleet was gate camping we had nothing bigger than cruisers on field and nothing larger came out at any point other than during the short bash fleet. |

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
27
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:30:00 -
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So when will Conoco. and Drenai Warriors rejoin CalMil again? :D Just Add Water |

Andre Vauban
quantum cats syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
298
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:53:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:I see you didnt get my point it didnt matter whether or not they were titan humping or sat on that gate we knew they were coming due to the fact of spys / and you guys bringing out bigger toys (which was a clear indication) Both you and your spies seem to have got your intel confused. The bigger toys and support came out later for the POCO bashes. Both were discussed while we were sitting in the plexes but neither were for the plexes. I can understand why you might have misconnected the dots but at the time the RZR fleet was gate camping we had nothing bigger than cruisers on field and nothing larger came out at any point other than during the short bash fleet.
I would much rather return to old times to where Gallente and Caldari would blue up to kill "outsiders" that interfere with our ability to bash each other over the head. It is much more fun. QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |

Shad owLord
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
1
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:16:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups
In no particular order
1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.) 2. Those that are here are finding it increasingly difficult to earn isk in FW due to the last changes, as the Galls hold most (if not all) of the FW mission hubs and to quote Crosi "The pendulum was removed last patch" which especially with reduced numbers (see 1.) means we have little realistic chances of getting any of them back anytime soon means many of those that are still here are now off on alts in Null or Incursion fleets. 3. When we do manage to get Frig/Dessie/Cruiser fleets or gangs together , lately you have been countering with T2 Hac's and Logi's. We currently cannot compete with these, not that we don't want to but 80% of Calmil don't have the SP to even get in them. Its something were addressing but it is going to take a considerable time to rectify.
TL;DR If you 'WTB more pew pew' as you put it bring out stuff thats comparable to what we can field at present and we will fight you all day long.
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Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
19
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:49:00 -
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I can confirm that our active numbers have been down lately as well. While I know travel and vacations are a part of that, I think that the plex changes and return of WAFFLES have been the real issue thoughGǪ at least with the casual pilots within Templis.
The increased difficulty in offensive plexing, our low tier, and perpetual station and gate camps in Kinakka by WAFFLES and PL have been a deterrent to our casual guys and I just donGÇÖt see as many of them logging in and fleeting up lately.
Seeing fewer and fewer pilots in alliance to fleet-up on any given night has also been a bit demoralizing to the guys who are still left. With smaller numbers and constant harassment by larger WAFFLE and Gal fleets, weGÇÖve opted to ninja plex and take small-gang fights where we can before a WAFFLE blob descends upon us.
All that said, the core of Templis is still fighting the good fight. Leadership and many of our top pilots are still active. If youGÇÖre not seeing us out and about doing the same roams through your systems that you came to expect its more than likely because we donGÇÖt have to go much further than our undock to get a fleet fight these days.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:16:00 -
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"WAFFLE blob", "roflblob" - I get it now. WAFFLE is the little kid version of ROFL!
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
946
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:32:00 -
[34] - Quote
Epikurus wrote: Possible, I guess, but rather unfortunate if so. I would hope Mira wouldn't do something like that behind everyone else's back.
Ask mira how many times he has been on our comms trying to weazel some sort of RZR drop on snuff or some other neutrals (and us in the process no doubt, the dude comes across as very untrustworthy to me).
Epikurus wrote: the RZR fleet was gate camping
In high-sec? I may not be up to date with my high sec mechanics but my understanding is that would be doing it wrong. For an hour. 1 skip and a jump from enaluri. lol. |

Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
738
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:37:00 -
[35] - Quote
and this ladies and gentleman......is exactly why you shouldn't blob the living day lights out of everyone you see......sooner or later you get these threads. Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
794
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:46:00 -
[36] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:and this ladies and gentleman......is exactly why you shouldn't blob the living day lights out of everyone you see......sooner or later you get these threads. Except that in 9 months fighting for the Federation, I never witnessed GalMil refusing to fight. Not even against the TEST locusts. Worst case: grab derptrons, harass, die gloriously (and ISK-efficiently).
If I correctly interpreted your post as GalMil blobing CalMil.
EDIT: also, thanks for your Avenging Angels thread. I've never been in your warzone, but it was a great read! |

Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
739
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:05:00 -
[37] - Quote
Just go easy on the kids is all I'm saying.
No joke I'm at the point of my eve career that if I kill a ship that is t1 fit I feel bad about it. Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:09:00 -
[38] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: the RZR fleet was gate camping In high-sec? I may not be up to date with my high sec mechanics but my understanding is that would be doing it wrong. For an hour. 1 skip and a jump from enaluri. lol.
How much of that period were they actually in high-sec for? I know it wasn't all the time as we lost a cruiser to them in Aki and killboards show them getting some other fights there.
Perhaps you're right though. It just seems like a bizarre way of 'hiding' while someone baits for you. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:15:00 -
[39] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:Just go easy on the kids is all I'm saying.
No joke I'm at the point of my eve career that if I kill a ship that is t1 fit I feel bad about it. If I kill a ship with my T1 fit derp atron I feel good about it. Full circle! |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
358
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:12:00 -
[40] - Quote
Shad owLord wrote:
1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.)
when innia fell wasn't it school and hols and now the summertime, ill complete my excuse bingo card with 2 more
1) cos autumn (leaves falling off the trees and everyone's out watching that) 2) cos winter (and Santa clause) GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1223
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:23:00 -
[41] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:I have always said that if Templis get their **** together they will be unstoppable.
And now rumor has it that Templis will have a proper Caldari doctrine with the appropriate FC soon.
If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
Nah they just copied our doctrines
The person i am referring too has never copied a doctrine from you guys.
Anyway even if he did - I doubt Templis would even have enough Falcon pilots to fly your corp doctrines.
   Docked since 2009. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:52:00 -
[42] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote: Anyway even if he did - I doubt Templis would even have enough Guardian pilots to fly your corp doctrines Fixed. The only FC that could save Caldari is Super Chair, and he'll use Basilisks instead. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:13:00 -
[43] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Shad owLord wrote:
1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.)
when innia fell wasn't it school and hols and now the summertime, ill complete my excuse bingo card with 2 more 1) cos autumn (leaves falling off the trees and everyone's out watching that) 2) cos winter (and Santa clause)
Cos environmental factors and well-known calendar events don't real guys!
Only a statement that things have been slightly quieter than usual over the last four days because of ... what exactly? ... will be satisfactory. Away with your real life nonsense and rational explanations! |

Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
63
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:51:00 -
[44] - Quote
Epikurus wrote:Yuri Antollare wrote:
WRT to Enaluri, and taking nothing away from those that live there, it is the newest home system of the Gallente. In terms of where supporting corps/allainces are and logistics, it would be closer to the easiest target to strike than the hardest.
Perhaps the easiest of the hardest targets (i.e. Gallente home systems) but certainly not amongst the easiest targets on the map. It's also right next door to Nenn. Quote: From the fights I saw, things were pretty rough on the squids. I saw their Kestrel fleets die to our AF fleets, and our Kestrel fleets kill their AF fleets. ... In fact I'm not sure I witnessed any gallente fleets lose a fight, I did see a couple of derps from T3s trying to be funny, but we wouldn't be throwing those into the isk analysis would we? Seeing as this was about testing doctrines :p
I guess I'm mainly thinking of fights like these: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6033140&e=20&t=qaubuvbhttp://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6032310&e=20&t=aquuvvbhttp://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6032265&e=15&t=afqqvvb(edit: the forums are mangling these addresses by inserting amp;amp; into them three times for some reason - you'll need to manually delete that addition to get the BR. edit2: bear in mind that the BRs only include those pilots who appeared on killmails, not all who were involved in the battles, so most of the Gallente fleet is missing from the first two as there were almost no Caldari losses.) What's really significant here to my mind is seeing doctrinal uniformity across a Caldari general militia fleet, decent amounts of logi on field, and wins against fully logi-ed up Gal fleets (with T2 logi in two cases). These are all new experiences for me in system battles. I also wouldn't discount all the T3 losses. In a battle where you bring a T2/T3 cruiser fleet plus battleships and faction battleships against a T1 cruiser fleet and lose a T3 in the pitched engagement, that's just a straightforward loss.
wrt the T3s, I'm not writing them off, good kills, especially if one was lost in battle, I only joined to hear the ones struggling to activate the medium plex accel gate I'll just leave it as don't count on T3 fleets in home systems to balance the killboards :p
Those BRs are kind of what I mean though, an AF fleet fighting a larger RLM Caracal gang, and whats seems like comedy ENI fleet and comedy battle exequror fleet. Not exactly our frontline plex fighting doctrines :) Anytime I saw a semi serious mainstream gallente plexing fleet the results appeared fairly onesided, but again, anecdotal.
That small shield extender on the Kestrel has to go though.
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
346
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:03:00 -
[45] - Quote
Epikurus wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Shad owLord wrote:
1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.)
when innia fell wasn't it school and hols and now the summertime, ill complete my excuse bingo card with 2 more 1) cos autumn (leaves falling off the trees and everyone's out watching that) 2) cos winter (and Santa clause) Cos environmental factors and well-known calendar events don't real guys! Only a statement that things have been slightly quieter than usual over the last four days because of ... what exactly? ... will be satisfactory. Away with your real life nonsense and rational explanations! Confirming that no one in Galmil watches the World Cup or takes vacations. We're that serious about internet spaceships. CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, please give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:22:00 -
[46] - Quote
Deacon Abox wrote:Epikurus wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Shad owLord wrote:
1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.)
when innia fell wasn't it school and hols and now the summertime, ill complete my excuse bingo card with 2 more 1) cos autumn (leaves falling off the trees and everyone's out watching that) 2) cos winter (and Santa clause) Cos environmental factors and well-known calendar events don't real guys! Only a statement that things have been slightly quieter than usual over the last four days because of ... what exactly? ... will be satisfactory. Away with your real life nonsense and rational explanations! Confirming that no one in Galmil watches the World Cup or takes vacations. We're that serious about internet spaceships.
Whether or not you guys do has no impact on whether it is reasonable to cite these factors as one of the reasons some CalMil corps have been slightly quieter the last few days.
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
358
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: Anyway even if he did - I doubt Templis would even have enough Guardian pilots to fly your corp doctrines Fixed.
either gaurds or boosters lol falcon pilots in spdr are few and far between if u keep running into the same few unlucky
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
195
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm just chalking this up to global warming.
The politically correct term is now "climate change." So sayeth Al Gore, creator of the interwebs. |

Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
195
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:31:00 -
[49] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups 1. They are in perpetual Tier 1 right now, and even their home systems are getting hit by plexers. So, they are balling up a bit. 2. Plexes are harder. Their guys are probably turning more to missions to make their isk instead of being available for fights in plexes. 3. In our area Sniggwaffe has returned and put a big damper on Squid activity in Kinnaka. Many squids seem to pile up in Kehjari instead, or go to high sec. 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking.
Caldari leadership is, well, ******** at the moment. You should see how many dudes we can fit into one plex! |

Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
195
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:58:00 -
[50] - Quote
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:and this ladies and gentleman......is exactly why you shouldn't blob the living day lights out of everyone you see......sooner or later you get these threads. Except that in 9 months fighting for the Federation, I never witnessed GalMil refusing to fight. Not even against the TEST locusts. Worst case: grab derptrons, harass, die gloriously (and ISK-efficiently). If I correctly interpreted your post as GalMil blobing CalMil. EDIT: also, thanks for your Avenging Angels thread. I've never been in your warzone, but it was a great read!
In my humble opinion, many gallente will not fight generally equal fights. They typically require a couple additional pilots or a few more 0s on the price tags of their ships.
I have seen numerous gal fleets not take even fights.
That said, there are still many brave gallente who will offer good fights. |

Cromwell Savage
quantum cats syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
185
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:37:00 -
[51] - Quote
Phaade wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:and this ladies and gentleman......is exactly why you shouldn't blob the living day lights out of everyone you see......sooner or later you get these threads. Except that in 9 months fighting for the Federation, I never witnessed GalMil refusing to fight. Not even against the TEST locusts. Worst case: grab derptrons, harass, die gloriously (and ISK-efficiently). If I correctly interpreted your post as GalMil blobing CalMil. EDIT: also, thanks for your Avenging Angels thread. I've never been in your warzone, but it was a great read! In my humble opinion, many gallente will not fight generally equal fights. They typically require a couple additional pilots or a few more 0s on the price tags of their ships. I have seen numerous gal fleets not take even fights. That said, there are still many brave gallente who will offer good fights.
If by 'equal' you mean having to warp into a plex where the opposition is already setup to pounce on the 'easy button' warp in that plex fighting provides....then yea....no thanks.
Trust me...I've been doing FW for 5 years. Each side is the same - they run - they blob - they need EWAR - they need logi - blah blah blah... It all comes down to your little slice of FW perception and what you believe to know what your opponent is thinking/wanting/doing without actually knowing anything and therefore assuming that your way is some how the better way... |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2318
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:47:00 -
[52] - Quote
Cromwell Savage wrote: It all comes down to your little slice of FW perception and what you believe to know what your opponent is thinking/wanting/doing without actually knowing anything and therefore assuming that your way is some how the better way... ...but our way IS better!
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Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
196
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:52:00 -
[53] - Quote
Cromwell Savage wrote:Phaade wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:and this ladies and gentleman......is exactly why you shouldn't blob the living day lights out of everyone you see......sooner or later you get these threads. Except that in 9 months fighting for the Federation, I never witnessed GalMil refusing to fight. Not even against the TEST locusts. Worst case: grab derptrons, harass, die gloriously (and ISK-efficiently). If I correctly interpreted your post as GalMil blobing CalMil. EDIT: also, thanks for your Avenging Angels thread. I've never been in your warzone, but it was a great read! In my humble opinion, many gallente will not fight generally equal fights. They typically require a couple additional pilots or a few more 0s on the price tags of their ships. I have seen numerous gal fleets not take even fights. That said, there are still many brave gallente who will offer good fights. If by 'equal' you mean having to warp into a plex where the opposition is already setup to pounce on the 'easy button' warp in that plex fighting provides....then yea....no thanks. Trust me...I've been doing FW for 5 years. Each side is the same - they run - they blob - they need EWAR - they need logi - blah blah blah... It all comes down to your little slice of FW perception and what you believe to know what your opponent is thinking/wanting/doing without actually knowing anything and therefore assuming that your way is some how the better way...
As have I.
Right. I am referring to many of the individuals in this thread.
Though, I must admit, our.....leadership....doesn't know how to recognize or take a good fight.
I take fights all day. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1223
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Posted - 2014.06.28 00:11:00 -
[54] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: Anyway even if he did - I doubt Templis would even have enough Cloaky Stabbed Griffins pilots to fly your corp doctrines Fixed. The only FC that could save Caldari is Super Chair, and he'll use Basilisks instead.
You are a smart cookie for a smelly alcoholic Gallente scumbag.
  
Docked since 2009. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
946
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Posted - 2014.06.28 04:43:00 -
[55] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: Anyway even if he did - I doubt Templis would even have enough Cloaky Stabbed Griffins pilots to fly your corp doctrines Fixed. The only FC that could save Caldari is Super Chair, and he'll use Basilisks instead. You are a smart cookie for a smelly alcoholic Gallente scumbag.   
Quite harsh for a gallente spy. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2320
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:05:00 -
[56] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: Anyway even if he did - I doubt Templis would even have enough Cloaky Stabbed Griffins pilots to fly your corp doctrines Fixed. The only FC that could save Caldari is Super Chair, and he'll use Basilisks instead. You are a smart cookie for a smelly alcoholic Gallente scumbag.    You don't need to be "smart" when you have access to the orders given by CCP chatgris.
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
579
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:29:00 -
[57] - Quote
Merlins > Atrons |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2321
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:37:00 -
[58] - Quote
Sean Parisi wrote:Merlins > Atrons Panzers > Shermans, but who won WWII?
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Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
171
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:51:00 -
[59] - Quote
Shad owLord wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups In no particular order 1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.) 2. Those that are here are finding it increasingly difficult to earn isk in FW due to the last changes, as the Galls hold most (if not all) of the FW mission hubs and to quote Crosi "The pendulum was removed last patch" which especially with reduced numbers (see 1.) means we have little realistic chances of getting any of them back anytime soon means many of those that are still here are now off on alts in Null or Incursion fleets.3. When we do manage to get Frig/Dessie/Cruiser fleets or gangs together , lately you have been countering with T2 Hac's and Logi's. We currently cannot compete with these, not that we don't want to but 80% of Calmil don't have the SP to even get in them. Its something were addressing but it is going to take a considerable time to rectify. TL;DR If you 'WTB more pew pew' as you put it bring out stuff thats comparable to what we can field at present and we will fight you all day long.
Galmil has been in tier 1 collectively significantly longer than any other faction and as you can see we have no problem fielding the vast number of doctrine ships and more recently our AHAC and T2 fleets. ISK shouldn't be a problem even at tier 1. Welcome to the real world 
With respect to our AHAC fleets. It took us a long time to get them out in numbers. We're fielding them to fight the local pirate groups and attracting more groups to the area. That's happening because there are no more squids to be found, at least not in the AU timezone. P.S. I hear eagles are pretty good and I would assume most of your pilots have Caldari cruiser 5. --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
27
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Posted - 2014.06.28 20:38:00 -
[60] - Quote
Yun Kuai wrote:I would assume most of your pilots have Caldari cruiser 5.

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Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
196
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:28:00 -
[61] - Quote
Yun Kuai wrote:Shad owLord wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups In no particular order 1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.) 2. Those that are here are finding it increasingly difficult to earn isk in FW due to the last changes, as the Galls hold most (if not all) of the FW mission hubs and to quote Crosi "The pendulum was removed last patch" which especially with reduced numbers (see 1.) means we have little realistic chances of getting any of them back anytime soon means many of those that are still here are now off on alts in Null or Incursion fleets.3. When we do manage to get Frig/Dessie/Cruiser fleets or gangs together , lately you have been countering with T2 Hac's and Logi's. We currently cannot compete with these, not that we don't want to but 80% of Calmil don't have the SP to even get in them. Its something were addressing but it is going to take a considerable time to rectify. TL;DR If you 'WTB more pew pew' as you put it bring out stuff thats comparable to what we can field at present and we will fight you all day long. Galmil has been in tier 1 collectively significantly longer than any other faction and as you can see we have no problem fielding the vast number of doctrine ships and more recently our AHAC and T2 fleets. ISK shouldn't be a problem even at tier 1. Welcome to the real world  With respect to our AHAC fleets. It took us a long time to get them out in numbers. We're fielding them to fight the local pirate groups and attracting more groups to the area. That's happening because there are no more squids to be found, at least not in the AU timezone. P.S. I hear eagles are pretty good and I would assume most of your pilots have Caldari cruiser 5.
Lolol
Yes, lets field 300 dps eagles against curators. Thats great idea!! |

Johnny M'gambo
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
Has Caldari ever been competetive in the Gal/Cal warzone? I'll admit that I haven't ever followed FW that closely, but I've never seen them do anything but roll over and die between bouts of killing one another in repeated civil wars. |

Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
63
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Posted - 2014.06.29 02:34:00 -
[63] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:Merlins > Atrons Panzers > Shermans, but who won WWII?
The Soviets, with bigger and badder tanks than the Germans. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2323
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Posted - 2014.06.29 03:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
Yuri Antollare wrote:The Soviets, with bigger and badder tanks than the Germans. You're not helping the narrative here, but if you were, then the Soviets would be Armor Tristans. |

RonPaul Rox
Justified Chaos
11
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Posted - 2014.06.29 05:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
Yuri Antollare wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:Merlins > Atrons Panzers > Shermans, but who won WWII? The Soviets, with bigger and badder tanks than the Germans.
you must play world of tanks :) |

SovietGuard
TOPDECKIN N WRECKIN
3
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Posted - 2014.06.29 09:46:00 -
[66] - Quote
oh look another gallente circlejerk |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
28
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:58:00 -
[67] - Quote
SovietGuard wrote:oh look another gallente circlejerk
SpaceFrench - whatcha gonna do? Gotta role-play that arrogant superiority and misplaced cultural pride 
Still, better this than having them stand around in mildly resentful huddles cupping Gauloises in their palms while replying to every question with a surly Gallic shrug and a non-committal grunt. At least they are speaking English here ... |

Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
171
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Posted - 2014.06.29 11:50:00 -
[68] - Quote
SovietGuard wrote:oh look another gallente circlejerk
Oh look another guy who hides behind his alt. Where is your archon a and bat phone hiding? We have come out to play but you seem to be hiding and trying to troll (and poorly at that). It was a legitimate where did everyone go question. We went from 20-30 man gangs to hardly anyone --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
358
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Posted - 2014.06.29 12:17:00 -
[69] - Quote
Yun Kuai wrote:SovietGuard wrote:oh look another gallente circlejerk Oh look another guy who hides behind his alt. Where is your archon a and bat phone hiding? We have come out to play but you seem to be hiding and trying to troll (and poorly at that). It was a legitimate where did everyone go question. We went from 20-30 man gangs to hardly anyone
yun did u even look at this guys employment history? u may realise hes not an alt 
Hay soviet long time no see when the fk did u turn so bitter? GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
5
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Posted - 2014.06.29 12:30:00 -
[70] - Quote
Phaade wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:Shad owLord wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups In no particular order 1. RL Summertime for most of our members so attendance is down (World Cup, Vacations etc etc.) 2. Those that are here are finding it increasingly difficult to earn isk in FW due to the last changes, as the Galls hold most (if not all) of the FW mission hubs and to quote Crosi "The pendulum was removed last patch" which especially with reduced numbers (see 1.) means we have little realistic chances of getting any of them back anytime soon means many of those that are still here are now off on alts in Null or Incursion fleets.3. When we do manage to get Frig/Dessie/Cruiser fleets or gangs together , lately you have been countering with T2 Hac's and Logi's. We currently cannot compete with these, not that we don't want to but 80% of Calmil don't have the SP to even get in them. Its something were addressing but it is going to take a considerable time to rectify. TL;DR If you 'WTB more pew pew' as you put it bring out stuff thats comparable to what we can field at present and we will fight you all day long. Galmil has been in tier 1 collectively significantly longer than any other faction and as you can see we have no problem fielding the vast number of doctrine ships and more recently our AHAC and T2 fleets. ISK shouldn't be a problem even at tier 1. Welcome to the real world  With respect to our AHAC fleets. It took us a long time to get them out in numbers. We're fielding them to fight the local pirate groups and attracting more groups to the area. That's happening because there are no more squids to be found, at least not in the AU timezone. P.S. I hear eagles are pretty good and I would assume most of your pilots have Caldari cruiser 5. Lolol Yes, lets field 300 dps eagles against curators. Thats great idea!!
Sounds swell to me ;) |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
28
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Posted - 2014.06.29 12:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
Yun Kuai wrote:It was a legitimate where did everyone go question. We went from 20-30 man gangs to hardly anyone
... for a period of a couple of days and in certain limited areas of the war-zone.
Let's be honest, it's not really a discussion topic worthy of a forum thread (except possibly in the old CAOD forum) and was a bit of light-hearted circle-jerkery. There's obviously nothing wrong with that but lets not pretend that the question was asked in earnest as part of an in depth research program into the low number of squid sightings Monday through Wednesday one week in June. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
947
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Posted - 2014.06.29 13:16:00 -
[72] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:SovietGuard wrote:oh look another gallente circlejerk Oh look another guy who hides behind his alt. Where is your archon a and bat phone hiding? We have come out to play but you seem to be hiding and trying to troll (and poorly at that). It was a legitimate where did everyone go question. We went from 20-30 man gangs to hardly anyone yun did u even look at this guys employment history? u may realise hes not an alt  Hay soviet long time no see when the fk did u turn so bitter?
He is wilgotnas alt. I guess his search for relevance continues. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
358
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Posted - 2014.06.29 14:29:00 -
[73] - Quote
i didnt know that lol no wonder yamcha hated him .......
initial statement retracted GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
171
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Posted - 2014.06.29 16:23:00 -
[74] - Quote
Epikurus wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:It was a legitimate where did everyone go question. We went from 20-30 man gangs to hardly anyone ... for a period of a couple of days and in certain limited areas of the war-zone. Let's be honest, it's not really a discussion topic worthy of a forum thread (except possibly in the old CAOD forum) and was a bit of light-hearted circle-jerkery (that did get some more interesting discussion going about other topics). There's obviously nothing wrong with that but lets not pretend that the question was asked in earnest as part of an in depth research program into the low number of squid sightings Monday through Wednesday one week in June.
No, it was the form up of several different corps into a smallish pocket who were actually working together and flying similar ships with each other. This was happening for a few weeks. I thought it was the beginning of the squid rising where you guys finally got your act together, but it just seemed to suddenly vanish when waffles moved back in and Kinakka became a troll nest. So no it was not an attempt to push my epeen in your face. It was in fact a real question to find out why. You guys took Kehjari back very quickly, you could have taken pavanakka as well. You could have helped the Japanese guys in Rakapas and based out there. There were many options for you guys to relocate and continue working with each other without suddenly "vanishing". But meh, read it as you will I guess. --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

SovietGuard
TOPDECKIN N WRECKIN
4
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Posted - 2014.06.29 21:47:00 -
[75] - Quote
i only see two possible option for this thread
either yun is really "silly" and hes genuinely "curious" about this topic
or its a troll gallente circle jerk
conceptually this is the same as if i rounded up all my homies in the blood gang and we went and beat the crap out of some highschoolers. then when they didnt get up we were asking them "lol y u no fite anymore?? wut happened dawg??"
just keepin it real |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
947
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Posted - 2014.06.29 22:15:00 -
[76] - Quote
SovietGuard wrote:i only see two possible option for this thread
either yun is really "silly" and hes genuinely "curious" about this topic
or its a troll gallente circle jerk
conceptually this is the same as if i rounded up all my homies in the blood gang and we went and beat the crap out of some highschoolers. then when they didnt get up we were asking them "lol y u no fite anymore?? wut happened dawg??"
just keepin it real
Quoting someone who didnt see the 90 man squid BC/C fleet 2 weeks ago. |

Slick Rick Gutierez
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.29 23:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Quoting someone who didnt see the 90 man squid BC/C fleet 2 weeks ago.
It's a lot less scary when you remember 45 of them were gal spies. |

Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
186
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Posted - 2014.06.30 00:05:00 -
[78] - Quote
Slick Rick Gutierez wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Quoting someone who didnt see the 90 man squid BC/C fleet 2 weeks ago. It's a lot less scary when you remember 45 of them were gal spies.
Not just spies....but whole corps.... 
#occupancydoesn'tmeansquat |

Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
729
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Posted - 2014.06.30 04:50:00 -
[79] - Quote
SovietGuard wrote:
conceptually this is the same as if i rounded up all my homies in the blood gang and we went and beat the crap out of some highschoolers.
Did he just compare the Gallente militia to an African American street gang?
If we're the Bloods, then who are the Crips? High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |

SovietGuard
TOPDECKIN N WRECKIN
5
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Posted - 2014.06.30 07:27:00 -
[80] - Quote
nonono
i didnt compare galmil to the bloods
i described an analogous situation for this entire thread
.....the crips are snuff box and PL |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Templis CALSF
627
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:55:00 -
[81] - Quote
I like turtles eagles.
Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |

Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
1314
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:16:00 -
[82] - Quote
Deen Wispa wrote:SovietGuard wrote:
conceptually this is the same as if i rounded up all my homies in the blood gang and we went and beat the crap out of some highschoolers.
Did he just compare the Gallente militia to an African American street gang? If we're the Bloods, then who are the Crips?
Amarr = disciples Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
5
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Posted - 2014.07.05 02:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Let's talk some more about how CalMil does things other than bait for RZR, again? |

Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
369
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Posted - 2014.07.05 09:55:00 -
[84] - Quote
so much promises , so much we will murder galmil ... all that just to become Razor .. razor pet B... it's sad but as long as we slaughter them while they bait , it's fine RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
952
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Posted - 2014.07.05 10:11:00 -
[85] - Quote
Well, 7th time lucky i guess, RZR finally score some kills against us. Though after mira called in RZR, RZR did have to call in the rest of the CFC lol. GF goons. |

Dread Delgarth
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
48
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:45:00 -
[86] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Well, 7th time lucky i guess, RZR finally score some kills against us. Though after mira called in RZR, RZR did have to call in the rest of the CFC lol. GF goons.
Perhaps we should get in touch with Gevlon Goblin and see if he wants to offer GalMIl some kind of financial reward, seeing as we are fighting goons as well as squids now. :) |

Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
100
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Posted - 2014.07.05 14:52:00 -
[87] - Quote
Dread Delgarth wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Well, 7th time lucky i guess, RZR finally score some kills against us. Though after mira called in RZR, RZR did have to call in the rest of the CFC lol. GF goons. Perhaps we should get in touch with Gevlon Goblin and see if he wants to offer GalMIl some kind of financial reward, seeing as we are fighting goons as well as squids now. :)
I hear he has all the money so he can do it. Blasters for life
https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com |

Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
348
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Posted - 2014.07.05 16:10:00 -
[88] - Quote
Johnny M'gambo wrote:Has Caldari ever been competetive in the Gal/Cal warzone? I'll admit that I haven't ever followed FW that closely, but I've never seen them do anything but roll over and die between bouts of killing one another in repeated civil wars. a long time ago in a warzone far . . well not far away
Anyway a few years ago under some fw war protocols much different, there ruled a caldari hero named Damar who loved the lazy CCP after downtime respawn mechanics . . but for the rest of that story you will have to ask people more elderly than I.
As for their present sorry state, never fear. You see there is always some failed nullsec entity with no imagination that figures Calmil is a ticket to whatever, since there is easy access to Jita and they already have a decent Caldari standing. Standings because their membership probably ran buttloads of Caldari missions anyway.
The newest candidate appears to be Razor. Probably bored silly from the blue donut, and naturally lacking any imagination, they appear to be gravitating into Calmil buttbuddy status, or vice versa. I can't figure out who's on top. So they may be able to leverage that hotdrop ability into some warzone rehabilitation. We shall see. Certainly the chances for more Asakai fuckfests have increased with this latest nullsec intrusion into FW. CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, please give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals. |

Grimwood
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
2
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Posted - 2014.07.05 20:26:00 -
[89] - Quote
So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
953
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Posted - 2014.07.05 20:48:00 -
[90] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus
I dont think anyone in gal mil is angry. Mostly watching with curiosity at these events. It was already clear that every single BC/BS fleet from mira has RZR support, and indeed we were holding field vs squids and RZR no problem. Now it is clear that RZR will call goons to kill a 35 man fleet and drop over 150 more people. So we just have to change strategy.
Unfortunately, the only strategy left is kicking squids out of low sec once more. And with no pendulum expect to be there for quite a while if thats the direction we go. |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
40
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Posted - 2014.07.05 21:19:00 -
[91] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus Hmmmm.... |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
8
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Posted - 2014.07.05 22:21:00 -
[92] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus
Oh yes, please look through our killboard and tell me more about how we're in bed with Waffles and Exodus.
I'm fairly certain that we kill more Waffles than Squids these days... at least they actually come out to play.
And freaking Exodus welped a galmil AHAC fleet just today, far more effectively than you guys have ever managed. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
361
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Posted - 2014.07.05 23:29:00 -
[93] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus
Lol angry? i lost a cap an laughed my ass off on coms because of how fail cals and rzr are and the fact that they had to call in rest of cfc when there **** was getting pushed in...
Also about exodus u do realise 2 hrs after the akidagi fight we were balls deep fighting them in reschard/mercomiser so please tell me again how were in bed with each other GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Marcus Alvin Tivianne
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.07.06 04:34:00 -
[94] - Quote
CFC needs summer content. What better content than helicopter-dicking a bunch of irrevocably smug gallente amatures in "their," warzone? lol |

Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
175
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:34:00 -
[95] - Quote
Marcus Alvin Tivianne wrote:CFC needs summer content. What better content than helicopter-dicking a bunch of irrevocably smug gallente amatures in "their," warzone? lol
Amazing what happens when you blue up everyone and their unborn sister....
I'm sure someone will correct me on this but I'm pretty sure Galmil owns more space percentage wise for the gal/cal warzone theater vs goons owning the nullsec theatre? So yeah pretty sure it's our warzone. --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
36
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:56:00 -
[96] - Quote
hilarious how getting roflstomped just makes the gallente circlejerk harder
"caldari cant win without batphone trolololol"
"time to spank these caldari out of the warzone for batphoning on us herpa dur durrrrr" |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
9
|
Posted - 2014.07.06 08:02:00 -
[97] - Quote
wilgotna wrote:hilarious how getting roflstomped just makes the gallente circlejerk harder
"caldari cant win without batphone trolololol"
"time to spank these caldari out of the warzone for batphoning on us herpa dur durrrrr"
Not really a batphone when it's a reliable drop in every major engagement over the last few weeks, but whatev. I'm just wondering when RZR will just join CalMil for real, maybe then they'll start taking some systems back. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 08:27:00 -
[98] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus I dont think anyone in gal mil is angry. Mostly watching with curiosity at these events. It was already clear that every single BC/BS fleet from mira has RZR support, and indeed we were holding field vs squids and RZR no problem. Now it is clear that RZR will call goons to kill a 35 man fleet and drop over 150 more people. So we just have to change strategy. Unfortunately, the only strategy left is kicking squids out of low sec once more. And with no pendulum expect to be there for quite a while if thats the direction we go.
For someone who's not angry you sure sound angry. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
953
|
Posted - 2014.07.06 09:55:00 -
[99] - Quote
Epikurus wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Grimwood wrote:So much anger about calmil being assisted by neutrals... And a large amount of this frustration is coming from JUSTK, who are in bed with PL and Exodus I dont think anyone in gal mil is angry. Mostly watching with curiosity at these events. It was already clear that every single BC/BS fleet from mira has RZR support, and indeed we were holding field vs squids and RZR no problem. Now it is clear that RZR will call goons to kill a 35 man fleet and drop over 150 more people. So we just have to change strategy. Unfortunately, the only strategy left is kicking squids out of low sec once more. And with no pendulum expect to be there for quite a while if thats the direction we go. For someone who's not angry you sure sound angry.
Not sure how you got that impression. I was pissed at our fight in merco but not that akidagi thing hours before it.
I would be pissed if every large fleet i entered was simply there to create risk free content for other larger groups. One such occasion (at least) im pretty sure cal mil gad decisive advantage overall, but mira still lit the cyno resulting in our deagro and the end of what was shaping up to be a good fight for Cal mil.
Also, if we had dropped 3-10x your numbers of null bears on you every fight for the last 4-5 weeks i doubt we would see a single squid fleet in the entire war zone, not to mention what the forums would look like lol.
In he end, if we have to fight squids + a whole bunch of nullbears im sure well be ok, its not like its the first time :)
wilgotna wrote:hilarious how getting roflstomped just makes the gallente circlejerk harder
"caldari cant win without batphone trolololol"
"time to spank these caldari out of the warzone for batphoning on us herpa dur durrrrr"
This is what angry looks like. Were fighting 30 vs 300 and apparently were still not sufficiently challenged lol. Wilgotnas concern trolling seems to be due to some butthurt that he is dwelling on. On behalf of gallente i apologise if we upset you wil. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:31:00 -
[100] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote: Also, if we had dropped 3-10x your numbers of null bears on you every fight for the last 4-5 weeks.
Does this happen all the time? Or only when you break out shiney stuff that completely outclasses anything CalMil can bring to the field? Does Razor drop your T1 cruiser fleets and AF fleets? I honestly don't know but my own corp's killboards don't show Razor being involved in the fights we're in more than about once a week and those tend to be very idiosyncratic fights, such as the last one. I mean, really how often do you see BS fleets in the warzone and how strategically important are they when they do come out? We all know that the heavy lifting isn't done in fleets like these. Not sure how GHIOT's boards look but I'm certain if Razor appear frequently there that is in no way representative of CalMil as a whole.
As to why you seem angry, it's pretty obvious from the comments here across GalMil suggesting that these rare fights are a reason to kick CalMil as a whole out of the warzone when you claim you wouldn't do so anyway. The threat itself obviously falsifies the claim that Razor gets involved in 'every fight', as kicking us out certainly wouldn't be possible if they did, but the simple fact that you all want a punitive response makes it pretty clear you're pissed off and that all the 'I'm not angry we lost' stuff is coming through heavily gritted teeth. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
954
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:45:00 -
[101] - Quote
Epikurus wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote: Also, if we had dropped 3-10x your numbers of null bears on you every fight for the last 4-5 weeks.
Does this happen all the time? Or only when you break out shiney stuff that completely outclasses anything CalMil can bring to the field? Does Razor drop your T1 cruiser fleets and AF fleets? I honestly don't know but my own corp's killboards don't show Razor being involved in the fights we're in more than about once a week and those tend to be very idiosyncratic fights, such as the last one. I mean, really how often do you see BS fleets in the warzone and how strategically important are they when they do come out? We all know that the heavy lifting isn't done in fleets like these. As to why you seem angry, it's pretty obvious from the comments here across GalMil suggesting that these rare fights are a reason to kick us out of the warzone when you claim you wouldn't do so anyway. The threat itself obviously falsifies the claim that Razor gets involved in 'every fight', as kicking us out certainly wouldn't be possible if they did, but the simple fact that you all want a punitive response makes it pretty clear you're pissed off and that all the 'I'm not angry we lost' stuff is coming through heavily gritted teeth.
Sorry if implied it was every fight, i assumed it was obvious that i was talking about the bi-weekly BS/BC bait fleet mira puts out and hits structures with, or any other cal mil fleet where mira will have RZR waiting even if the FC doesnt know (as per enaluri).
Its not easy taking the warzone. Sometimes there needs to be a narrative to incentivise people into effort. The phrase 'dont get mad, get even' applies here. Most of gallente have no interest in working with any of the local pirates to curb RZR's ishtar fleet and tbh RZR lose to our local groups often enough without our help. That leaves us with the preferential FW related response of greater resolve and coordination to do the hard thing, as opposed to hitting ALT-F8 for cyno and letting someone else ave all the fun :) |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:53:00 -
[102] - Quote
Narrative is king  |

Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
370
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Posted - 2014.07.06 12:08:00 -
[103] - Quote
It's calmil what did you expect :(
After s... evoke , after siting on TEST di.k , now they just drink some RzR juice , maybe when their stomach will be full , they will stop being null sec dolls, i hope so really because i know they cand do some pretty good stuff if they want to RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 12:55:00 -
[104] - Quote
Irya Boone wrote:It's calmil what did you expect :(
After s... evoke , after siting on TEST di.k , now they just drink some RzR juice , maybe when their stomach will be full , they will stop being null sec dolls, i hope so really because i know they cand do some pretty good stuff if they want to
Bizarrely implying that regular CalMil corps had any control at all over, or responsibility for, the decisions of either TEST or EVOKE to join FW.
Also conveniently ignoring the fact that most current members of the militia were not around when EVOKE was and that half of the major CalMil organisations didnGÇÖt exist then. Just because GalMil has a long-standing and stable membership base, such that itGÇÖs reasonable to identify GalMil then with GalMil now, doesnGÇÖt mean the same is true on the Caldari side.
Look, we get it. YouGÇÖre bitter that you got your asses handed to you when youGÇÖre used to having things your own way but you know as well as I do that a wild Razor fleet appearing in the warzone very occasionally and at the behest of one corp has a) no strategic impact whatsoever, and b) says nothing at all about the nature or state of CalMil as a whole.
|

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
954
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:41:00 -
[105] - Quote
Epikurus wrote: a) no strategic impact whatsoever
Not strictly true. You lost Innia because of falcon. I wont go into the short story but any choice you make, even in the smallest engagements canl have a ripple effect. |

Capitol One
Snuff Box
143
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Posted - 2014.07.06 15:28:00 -
[106] - Quote
I'm just confused why the caldari militia is batphoning razor on snuffbox when we're trying to cozy up to the caldari in anticipation of us joining the caldari militia. 
What ever happened to space-honour?
(Also, I don't think caldari have been a serious competitor vs other lowsec entities since wolfsbrigade left in 2011.) |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
29
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:14:00 -
[107] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: a) no strategic impact whatsoever Not strictly true. You lost Innia because of falcon. I wont go into the short story but any choice you make, even in the smallest engagements canl have a ripple effect.
You're correct. I should have phrased that as 'minimal direct strategic impact'. It's entirely possible that it does have knock-on effects, although sensitive dependence on initial conditions only allows that the butterfly may cause ripple effects, not that it necessarily does. But the possibility is there. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2335
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:58:00 -
[108] - Quote
Capitol One wrote:I'm just confused why the caldari militia is batphoning razor on snuffbox when we're trying to cozy up to the caldari in anticipation of us joining the caldari militia.  What ever happened to space-honour? (Also, I don't think caldari have been a serious competitor vs other lowsec entities since wolfsbrigade left in 2011.) Any hot dropping entity that wants to hammer RZR can send their contact info to me.
/me gets cynos ready.
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Harrylon Atild
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.07.06 17:13:00 -
[109] - Quote
Barely a year ago. Long I pondered my FCGÇÖs cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise. But from free Cal to free Cal the word was spread that bold RZR and his three hundred so far from home laid down their lives not just for the militia but for all Caldari and the promise this state holds. Now here on this ragged patch of space called Black Rise, Gal hordes face obliteration. Just there the snail-eaters shiptoast, sheer terror and gripping tight their F1 with icy fingers, knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the cynos and hot-drops of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the grid at ten thousand Neutrals commanding thirty thousand free Caldari. The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one. Good odds for any Caldari. This day we rescue a region from smugposting and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks men, to RZR and the brave three hundred. To victory! |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
6
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:59:00 -
[110] - Quote
Lets be honest. -
The Gallente have been dropping Faction Battleships and some very tasty fleets that the Caldari can not fight. Then when we do form a battleship fleet to fight you, Which you had 3 days notice of. it would have been quite a good fight yet you decided to bring in Capitals, i mean if your going to up the game every time there is something going on and bring in caps then of course we will make sure we have some back up, Yet lets be honest you was on our Teamspeak listening to the fleet and Raz come in due to the fact there was a fight not to help us. CFC & Razor also shot us.
Also before you go crying about us getting friends in. Shall we take a quick look back at JUSTK mails? Where there CEO XG tells his corp that they are going to go play around with a POS, BUT Don't worry Waffles has offered to help them, When you are flying Better ships with better skilled players and mostly out number us. you ask for help. Shall we sit back and get our ass kicked or ask for help?
FW: JUSTK POS out of reinforce 0:38 Wednesday From: X Gallentius Sent: 2014-06-23 13:20:00 To: Justified Chaos
Martoh 7-5
Goon Carrier already killed: Kill: Valkyre Primax (Archon)
Snigg interested in helping us out again.
More details to follow.
- AGAIN -
Enough Said.
SnuffBox.- You was not the intended target when you come in, We was baiting the Gallente and you turned up was just unlucky. The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
41
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 19:20:00 -
[111] - Quote
Oh that POS. You mean the one where WAFFLES were only interested in seeing if more Goon caps would show up, which they didnt. And when we repped that POS they showed up in a Naga fleet with Basis and reinforced that POS we just repped. We were going to engage them but we just didnt have the numbers. Would have been a damn good fight too. But yep, GalMil is totally in cahoots with half of low-sec.  |

JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
229
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 19:25:00 -
[112] - Quote
Capitol One wrote:(Also, I don't think caldari have been a serious competitor vs other lowsec entities since wolfsbrigade left in 2011.)
I'm sure you'll find some evidence though the details I'm not privy the Alliance Happy Endings of Naz and Poison Ivvy The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2337
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 19:28:00 -
[113] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Oh that POS. You mean the one where WAFFLES were only interested in seeing if more Goon caps would show up, which they didnt. And when we repped that POS they showed up in a Naga fleet with Basis and reinforced that POS we just repped. We were going to engage them but we just didnt have the numbers. Would have been a damn good fight too. But yep, GalMil is totally in cahoots with half of low-sec.  WAFFLES also killed the first POS (before we could stront it) we put up after we (well, Dei-Telum did most of the work, we just whored by killing their fleet before they could finish the job), took down the first offline POS. THEN, Snigg tried to ransom the POS location for 500 mil.
So, yeah, not only are we in bed with WAFFLES (thanks for the contacts Bodaa), but our 500 million isk retainer to Exodus. is paying off handsomely. |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
6
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:04:00 -
[114] - Quote
So.. You called in Waffles they got no action ( they hate that ) so they turned on you..
That is nothing new with Waffles. The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
290
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:10:00 -
[115] - Quote
Dear Mira -
We're Gallente, we'll hop in bed with anyone if they'll show us a good time - and the more the merrier.
Kisses,
JUSTK |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
8
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:12:00 -
[116] - Quote
Im quite happy, Listening to PERUNGA Cry like a girl, but also asking his own fleet to go and loot he field so the can replace his own ship when 3 Capitals died made us ******* laugh :-)
Love you Perunga The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
290
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:22:00 -
[117] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote:Im quite happy, Listening to PERUNGA Cry like a girl, but also asking his own fleet to go and loot he field so the can replace his own ship when 3 Capitals died made us ******* laugh :-)
Love you Perunga So lemme get this straight, you whine about us temp bluing WAFFLES, and then crow from the heavens about calling in RZR *and* the rest of CFC???
No wonder your side is such a mess. |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
10
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:26:00 -
[118] - Quote
I have to say.. Im quite honored you think i have the contacts to call in the CFC, As stated we have called in Razor before. But they no longer work with us due to the fact they believe i am a PL spy.
They came away killing you and us. . It was a CFC free for all evening. The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
9
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:26:00 -
[119] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote:So.. You called in Waffles they got no action ( they hate that ) so they turned on you..
That is nothing new with Waffles.
Sigh... here's how it went. There was an offline goon pos which Dei-Telem engaged, we killed them, then popped the pos. We drop one of our own, then Waffles show up and pop it before it onlines. They leave, we drop another and stront.
Later that night, Goon corp jumps in 5 dreads+2 Carriers to RF it (these have all been smalls). They do so, but we have a couple inties that manage to tackle the carriers after they **** up their extract (for some reason the carriers were too far from each other to refit, and no one seemed to bother with a depot).
We send out call, but have 5 people online so v0v. Someone says to contact Waffles, as they're nextdoor and have some interest in blowing up Goons, so they bring in some talos's and kaboom. Unfortunately one of the carriers got out because ECM drones and we're bad. There was never a blue here, even, just an opportunity for an easy cap kill. We offered, they thanked us for the killmail.
That mail you just quoted was about the RF timer following this engagement. We expected a cap blob, and Waffles expressed interest in fighting said cap blob if they showed up. They didn't, so we fought Waffles instead. They RFed tower again with a naga fleet and we all went about our business as usual.
For what it's worth, Mira, what you're doing with Razor is a real damn shame. Used to be, FW folks on both sides would team up to explode people who tried to 3rd party on our little corner of EVE. Further, low sec entities in general would team up to beat up on the nullbears who think they can stomp around lowsec.
Now? We go into any fight BC+ assuming that there's 40+ razor ishtars on the other side of your cyno. You complain about us up-shipping you, but what's the alternative? The times we've brought equalish forces, you light the cyno and Razor pile in anyway. Hell, we showed up with fewer numbers to an ARRANGED FIGHT with you and you ***** that we went to a large plex instead of sun, so you refused to take the fight. We chase and fight on a gate, boom 40 razor ishtars + support instantly.
The funny part about Nenna/Aki this time was that even Razor couldn't handle the fight, and had to phone up the chain of command to drop 150 more goons on top, heh.
Like I said, it's a shame that all you guys seem to bother doing anymore is baiting for -insertgrouphere-. I'd like to think that if I had to sink to the level of nullsec pet, I'd at least get something tangible out of it. |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
10
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:33:00 -
[120] - Quote
You are infact Correct. we use to team up. Then people like Perunga took over the Gallente Militia and guess what.. Everytime we said Hey lets go against Snuff or someone when they are out. We got ..I.. So if he is going to show us the finger and just blob us with capitals what does he expect
Also your saying the fight could not be handled again what you are missing is that they came in for a free for all not that fight they was locally Look at the killboard they killed each other after. The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
293
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 20:51:00 -
[121] - Quote
Lemme get this straight.... GalMil has too many caps for you to handle, so you're forced to be a cynowench for RZR/Gewns. Gotcha.
PERUNGA hurt your feeeeeeeeelings so now you're going to confirm everyone's preexisting impression of CalMil as a nullbear haven by being a RZR/CFC cynowench. Gotcha.
PERUNGA has apparently taken over GalMil. Gotcha. I'll turn in my secret decoder ring then, since apparently I missed that message.
Can we get those Templis guys back in charge of CalMil? Those boys were at least trying to do things the right way instead of rolling over to take it hard and deep from failtastic nullbears. |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
41
|
Posted - 2014.07.07 21:09:00 -
[122] - Quote
wrote:VeskrashenI'll turn in my secret decoder ring then, since apparently I missed that message. I just got mine out and all it said was "Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine," I think it is busted again. |

Dread Operative
Snuff Box
326
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 00:40:00 -
[123] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote: SnuffBox.- You was not the intended target when you come in, We was baiting the Gallente and you turned up was just unlucky.
Ummm hits SNUFF POS, claims not intended target, interesting.
|

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
361
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 07:05:00 -
[124] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote: CFC & Razor also shot us.
Jup and rzr paid for ur losses right? because of confusion i was listening as it came out of ur own mouth mira
Oh and by the way the perunga loot thing... hmmm i lost a cap and got loot bk and some extra ur story doesnt seem to stand up there GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
162
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 07:09:00 -
[125] - Quote
come to heimatar bbgurl <3 http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
958
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 08:24:00 -
[126] - Quote
Dread Operative wrote:Mira deVorsha wrote: SnuffBox.- You was not the intended target when you come in, We was baiting the Gallente and you turned up was just unlucky.
Ummm hits SNUFF POS, claims not intended target, interesting.
The hour he spent on our comms earlier trying to get us to help him bait snuff were just an elaborate plan to bate us i guesw, well, probably was. Dude is some sort of compulsive and cant be consistent in his deceptions from the start of a sentence to the end. Was obvious he was putting himself under lot of pressure to impress and entertain his null bear overlords. |

Grimwood
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
4
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 08:49:00 -
[127] - Quote
Who says Templis isn't working towards rebuilding Calmil? Also, Galmil is just mad because they got outplayed for once, but it's ok, they can continue to have PL/ Exodus smash our plexing fleets while we are trying to drive the warzone. |

Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
370
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 10:41:00 -
[128] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:Who says RazoR isn't working towards rebuilding Calmil? Also, Galmil is just sad because they saw us drink CFC juice but it's ok, even if they had smashed our Raven fleet before we cynobithc for CFC ;they can continue to have PL/ Exodus smash our plexing fleets while we are trying to drive the warzone, even if Galmil had never cynoed tehm onto these fleets.
I've fixed it for you  RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |

RonPaul Rox
Justified Chaos
11
|
Posted - 2014.07.08 22:13:00 -
[129] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:Who says Templis isn't working towards rebuilding Calmil? Also, Galmil is just mad because they got outplayed for once, but it's ok, they can continue to have PL/ Exodus smash our plexing fleets while we are trying to drive the warzone.
haha yeah GalMil and Exodus are BFF |

Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
212
|
Posted - 2014.07.09 00:24:00 -
[130] - Quote
RonPaul Rox wrote:Grimwood wrote:Who says Templis isn't working towards rebuilding Calmil? Also, Galmil is just mad because they got outplayed for once, but it's ok, they can continue to have PL/ Exodus smash our plexing fleets while we are trying to drive the warzone. haha yeah GalMil and Exodus are BFF
Not empty quoting. -Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper |

May Arethusa
PillowBrigade Inc Heiian Conglomerate
6
|
Posted - 2014.07.09 19:17:00 -
[131] - Quote
We haven't vanished really, you just haven't been trying very hard to find us. Focus across the board has shifted significantly in recent months. Before I went to play in null, it was much more common to see a public CalMil fleet roaming the warzone. With the exception of GHIOT running open fleets on a semi-regular basis, this practice has largely ceased as CalMil works out what to do with itself.
There's less focus on system control, with CalMil adopting a similar stance to the Gallente during TEST's time in FW. Neither side seems interested in contesting these new core systems, with most of the recent fleet engagements being the result of structure bashes. It really isn't that hard to get us to come and fight, seems you're just too accustomed to us bringing the fight to you.
The usual problems still plague CalMil, with groups coming and going, tensions running high between various groups (don't think we're all delighted when a RZR fleet gets cynoed in.) Then there's the high proportion of new players Caldari State attracts, most of whom stick around long enough to become useful and then bugger off somewhere else because we "can't compete." You've heard the usual excuses before. You'll probably hear them again too.
Coming back to FW after a few months off, I was horrified at the state of CalMil, but lessons are being learned and improvements are being made. It just takes us a lot longer than most apparently. |

Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
177
|
Posted - 2014.07.09 20:49:00 -
[132] - Quote
May Arethusa wrote:We haven't vanished really, you just haven't been trying very hard to find us. Focus across the board has shifted significantly in recent months. Before I went to play in null, it was much more common to see a public CalMil fleet roaming the warzone. With the exception of GHIOT running open fleets on a semi-regular basis, this practice has largely ceased as CalMil works out what to do with itself.
There's less focus on system control, with CalMil adopting a similar stance to the Gallente during TEST's time in FW. Neither side seems interested in contesting these new core systems, with most of the recent fleet engagements being the result of structure bashes. It really isn't that hard to get us to come and fight, seems you're just too accustomed to us bringing the fight to you.
The usual problems still plague CalMil, with groups coming and going, tensions running high between various groups (don't think we're all delighted when a RZR fleet gets cynoed in.) Then there's the high proportion of new players Caldari State attracts, most of whom stick around long enough to become useful and then bugger off somewhere else because we "can't compete." You've heard the usual excuses before. You'll probably hear them again too.
Coming back to FW after a few months off, I was horrified at the state of CalMil, but lessons are being learned and improvements are being made. It just takes us a lot longer than most apparently.
I appreciate your honesty . +1 to you. --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

Leg Day
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 04:11:00 -
[133] - Quote
May Arethusa wrote: Coming back to FW after a few months off, I was horrified at the state of CalMil, but lessons are being learned and improvements are being made.
I want to believe. |

Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
236
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 05:20:00 -
[134] - Quote
looks like some more null bears are coming to help the caldari *again* BLFOX is currently recruiting |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2356
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 05:48:00 -
[135] - Quote
Aren't they supposed to wait until we attack Ladistier? |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
42
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 05:55:00 -
[136] - Quote
As it has been foretold. |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
10
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 06:06:00 -
[137] - Quote
Looks like they're setting up in... Uuna?
Ass end of nowhere :( |

Shad owLord
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
1
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 06:08:00 -
[138] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Aren't they supposed to wait until we attack Ladistier?
From: Sent: 2014-06-20 17:03:00 To: Justified Chaos,
Ladistier put on hold for a few days until PERUNGA decides to go "all-in." JUSTK will support when he does. - XG.
Heyd Objective Complete From: X Gallentius Sent: 2014.06.20 04:02 To: Justified Chaos
Well done guys. Two things: 1. Next up Ladistier 2. Make sure you have lots of plexing ships in Eha. Intel says squids will hit a home system hard this weekend and Eha is the likely choice.
Still waiting for Perunga to go "all-in" same as you guys  |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
10
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 11:37:00 -
[139] - Quote
You guys really like quoting our corp mails. |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
307
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 12:36:00 -
[140] - Quote
Josclyn Verreuil wrote:You guys really like quoting our corp mails. Gotta get what use they can out of their Spai before Deen goes all Amarr on us. |

Shad owLord
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
1
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 12:41:00 -
[141] - Quote
Veskrashen wrote:Josclyn Verreuil wrote:You guys really like quoting our corp mails. Gotta get what use they can out of their Spai's before Deen goes all Amarr on us.
FYP |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
307
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 12:50:00 -
[142] - Quote
Shad owLord wrote:Veskrashen wrote:Josclyn Verreuil wrote:You guys really like quoting our corp mails. Gotta get what use they can out of their Spai's before Deen goes all Amarr on us. FYP Eh, whatevs. PL has spais here, CalMil has spais here, I'm sure Gewns have spais here, hell even TEST probably has spais here.
And yet.... none of that insight and intel seems to save you.
Maybe, we're just that good.
I like that thought. |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
43
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 14:52:00 -
[143] - Quote
I'm surprised they haven't posted our happy birthday mail here yet. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUSTK!!!! |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
314
|
Posted - 2014.07.10 15:25:00 -
[144] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm surprised they haven't posted our happy birthday mail here yet. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUSTK!!!! Doesn't support their narrative. Why give us props? |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2356
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 08:15:00 -
[145] - Quote
Shad owLord wrote:Still waiting for Perunga to go "all-in" same as you guys  Yeah sure you are. He went "all-in" in Heydieles (FC'd his ass off). Where were you then? |

flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2304
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 09:03:00 -
[146] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm surprised they haven't posted our happy birthday mail here yet. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUSTK!!!!
A day late but hey , happy 2nd birthday JUSTK 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
|

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
13
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 10:42:00 -
[147] - Quote
All this big yay about how amazing you are taking Heyd but let's be honest how long did you keep it? The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
146
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 11:09:00 -
[148] - Quote
"Look I have a spy alt, I am cool!" |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
324
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 11:30:00 -
[149] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote:All this big yay about how amazing you are taking Heyd but let's be honest how long did you keep it? Couple weeks. Kind of always that way with Heyd / Lad - for some reason OMG just loves the hell out of that area, and as soon as they get pushed out they're right back to taking it back. Major props to them for persistence, but it's difficult to keep those systems without full timezone coverage in the area, and we just don't have enough GalMil corps basing out of that side of the WZ to hold it for long. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1174
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 11:59:00 -
[150] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote:All this big yay about how amazing you are taking Heyd but let's be honest how long did you keep it? As long as we wanted, as always. |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
13
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 12:31:00 -
[151] - Quote
I agree veskrashen it's the same everywhere for CalMil if Innia didn't bring us together I have no idea what will.
Give it time there will be another civil war and will will be more disorganised. The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
325
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 13:30:00 -
[152] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote:I agree veskrashen it's the same everywhere for CalMil if Innia didn't bring us together I have no idea what will. Welcome to FW, where if you can't defend your systems 23/7 against determined attackers, you don't get to keep them.
And we wouldn't have at any other way.
|

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2356
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 13:44:00 -
[153] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm surprised they haven't posted our happy birthday mail here yet. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUSTK!!!! +2 |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
13
|
Posted - 2014.07.11 13:54:00 -
[154] - Quote
Veskrashen wrote:Mira deVorsha wrote:I agree veskrashen it's the same everywhere for CalMil if Innia didn't bring us together I have no idea what will. Welcome to FW, where if you can't defend your systems 23/7 against determined attackers, you don't get to keep them. And we wouldn't have at any other way.
I agree, The problem Caldari has is we once they do form together someone leaves or starts a Cival war which makes People not want to do it again.
The gallente can form and take any system off us they wish. No point denying that. Will this change anytime soon? No, One due to the most recent patch 2 due to the Caldari will not form together . 2 out of the 4 biggest groups are all about the WarZone. the other 2 only care about the Fighting,
Gallente are far superior with War zone Control and will be for the for see able future & with that we need to show them some kind of Respect,
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
371
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 00:27:00 -
[155] - Quote
seems someone in 0.0 was proud of your last cynoslurping and rewarding you 
http://themittani.com/news/corps-leave-nulli-secunda-faction-warfare
evoke.. test..?...?  RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |

Shad owLord
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
1
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 01:00:00 -
[156] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm surprised they haven't posted our happy birthday mail here yet. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUSTK!!!! +2
Belated Happy Birthday from GHIOT, CalMil and Pavanakka  |

Yulia il Nusra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 01:12:00 -
[157] - Quote
Joined CalMil to escape politics?
I has a confuse. |

Grimwood
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
5
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 07:56:00 -
[158] - Quote
Yulia il Nusra wrote:Joined CalMil to escape politics?
I suck and no one loves me, please reply so I feel validated. If you deny me, I will go full on SJW and declare this site misogynistic and racist .
Whoa there buddy calm down with the accusations will you? What politics? The Calmil I'm a part of isn't interested in that nonsense. |

wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
37
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 10:07:00 -
[159] - Quote
now we can add mira to the list of calmil leaders who have admitted calmil is terrible
yet im accused of trolling when i say something needs to change |

Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
177
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 10:43:00 -
[160] - Quote
wilgotna wrote:now we can add mira to the list of calmil leaders who have admitted calmil is terrible
yet im accused of trolling when i say something needs to change
Didn't you see we are having nulli secunda - part 2. So your argument is invalid. Learn to gather better intel. Maybe you should put a spy in JUSTK as well  --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
988
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 10:48:00 -
[161] - Quote
wilgotna wrote:now we can add mira to the list of calmil leaders who have admitted calmil is terrible
yet im accused of trolling when i say something needs to change
Its not that you are trolling. Its that you are insignificant in these matters. |

wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
37
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 12:21:00 -
[162] - Quote
i fail to understand how my opinion is insignificant
i was in galmil i was one of the most active pilots
i left the warzone because the pattern of stomping calmil and getting stomped by pies became uninteresting
if something changed to make calmil competitive once again i would rejoin the warzone immediately as i very much enjoy the small gang plex fighting |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2362
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 13:58:00 -
[163] - Quote
wilgotna wrote:i fail to understand how my opinion is insignificant
i was in galmil i was one of the most active pilots
i left the warzone because the pattern of stomping calmil and getting stomped by pies became uninteresting
if something changed to make calmil competitive once again i would rejoin the warzone immediately as i very much enjoy the small gang plex fighting Put an app in, head to Huola for a week or so. |

Yulia il Nusra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
|
Posted - 2014.07.12 14:33:00 -
[164] - Quote
Grimwood wrote:Yulia il Nusra wrote:Joined CalMil to escape politics?
I suck and no one loves me, please reply so I feel validated. If you deny me, I will go full on SJW and declare this site misogynistic and racist . Whoa there buddy calm down with the accusations will you? What politics? The Calmil I'm a part of isn't interested in that nonsense.
Dat knee-jerk madposting.  |

Armeggeda iscariah
Ganja Labs Exodus.
41
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Posted - 2014.07.13 20:14:00 -
[165] - Quote
Caldari seem pretty mad in this thread so let me clarify, Galfed pay us 650mil a month to let them have free rain plexing in black rise................................am i doing this trolling thing right yet ? Like for real we probably shoot/troll/destroy galfed more then caldari and yet we get accused of being BFF's with galfed. Tthe only reason we help galfed from time to time is because we have a couple friends in galfed, who we shoot on a regular basis and troll constantly in side channels for being terrible. Sometimes we've helped caldari, allthough i rather not because galfed atleast has Some balls...Some...But I've never helped Perunga because he is complete crap if that counts for anything. 
In all seriousness the few times we've helped galfed was because they were outnumbered/inactive when current events were going down in whatever system and they asked for help which gave us content on a slow day, We've helped caldari the same way to and when we're done we usually shoot the winning side afterwords just to troll. Hell i think galfed probably hates our guts considering we live in the middle of galfed fw space and rage out to kill them everytime they come through vlill...But yeah we're totally BFF's with galfed. Hail Satan. |

Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
208
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:09:00 -
[166] - Quote
Armeggeda iscariah wrote:Caldari seem pretty mad in this thread so let me clarify, Galfed pay us 650mil a month to let them have free rain plexing in black rise................................am i doing this trolling thing right yet ? Like for real we probably shoot/troll/destroy galfed more then caldari and yet we get accused of being BFF's with galfed. Tthe only reason we help galfed from time to time is because we have a couple friends in galfed, who we shoot on a regular basis and troll constantly in side channels for being terrible. Sometimes we've helped caldari, allthough i rather not because galfed atleast has Some balls...Some...But I've never helped Perunga because he is complete crap if that counts for anything.  In all seriousness the few times we've helped galfed was because they were outnumbered/inactive when current events were going down in whatever system and they asked for help which gave us content on a slow day, We've helped caldari the same way to and when we're done we usually shoot the winning side afterwords just to troll. Hell i think galfed probably hates our guts considering we live in the middle of galfed fw space and rage out to kill them everytime they come through vlill...But yeah we're totally BFF's with galfed.
Nooooooo you ruined it!
The naive Caldari want to believe everybody is only gunning for them! |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2366
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:31:00 -
[167] - Quote
Armeggeda iscariah wrote:Caldari seem pretty mad in this thread so let me clarify, Galfed pay us 650mil a month to let them have free rain plexing in black rise................................am i doing this trolling thing right yet ? Like for real we probably shoot/troll/destroy galfed more then caldari and yet we get accused of being BFF's with galfed. Tthe only reason we help galfed from time to time is because we have a couple friends in galfed, who we shoot on a regular basis and troll constantly in side channels for being terrible. Sometimes we've helped caldari, allthough i rather not because galfed atleast has Some balls...Some...But I've never helped Perunga because he is complete crap if that counts for anything.  In all seriousness the few times we've helped galfed was because they were outnumbered/inactive when current events were going down in whatever system and they asked for help which gave us content on a slow day, We've helped caldari the same way to and when we're done we usually shoot the winning side afterwords just to troll. Hell i think galfed probably hates our guts considering we live in the middle of galfed fw space and rage out to kill them everytime they come through vlill...But yeah we're totally BFF's with galfed. This man lies like the devil (see his sig). Really. Honest. We aren't paying Exodus. 650 million isk /month. Nope. Not even close to what we're paying them.
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Super Chair
Project Cerberus Templis CALSF
628
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Posted - 2014.07.14 06:32:00 -
[168] - Quote
In soviet blackrise, exodus pays you. Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |

Armeggeda iscariah
Ganja Labs Exodus.
43
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Posted - 2014.07.14 07:11:00 -
[169] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Armeggeda iscariah wrote:Caldari seem pretty mad in this thread so let me clarify, Galfed pay us 650mil a month to let them have free rain plexing in black rise................................am i doing this trolling thing right yet ? Like for real we probably shoot/troll/destroy galfed more then caldari and yet we get accused of being BFF's with galfed. Tthe only reason we help galfed from time to time is because we have a couple friends in galfed, who we shoot on a regular basis and troll constantly in side channels for being terrible. Sometimes we've helped caldari, allthough i rather not because galfed atleast has Some balls...Some...But I've never helped Perunga because he is complete crap if that counts for anything.  In all seriousness the few times we've helped galfed was because they were outnumbered/inactive when current events were going down in whatever system and they asked for help which gave us content on a slow day, We've helped caldari the same way to and when we're done we usually shoot the winning side afterwords just to troll. Hell i think galfed probably hates our guts considering we live in the middle of galfed fw space and rage out to kill them everytime they come through vlill...But yeah we're totally BFF's with galfed. This man lies like the devil (see his sig). Really. Honest. We aren't paying Exodus. 650 million isk /month. Nope. Not even close to what we're paying them.
reallisticly it's upwards of 1bil, gota pay for the Alliance tourny somehow. Hail Satan. |

Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
31
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:14:00 -
[170] - Quote
Exodus. mentioned twice by one Caldari pilot one week ago. Generates half a dozen defensive responses from Gallente and friends.
Armeggeda iscariah wrote:Caldari seem pretty mad in this thread ...
Checks out.
Grimwood troll best troll. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
362
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:54:00 -
[171] - Quote
This months payment of 1000 male exotic dancers will be delivered to Exodus. HQ today after DT..... GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
15
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:49:00 -
[172] - Quote
wilgotna wrote:now we can add mira to the list of calmil leaders who have admitted calmil is terrible
yet im accused of trolling when i say something needs to change
Wow. you think im a leader of the Caldari... Thats odd... The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
17
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:18:00 -
[173] - Quote
Epikurus wrote:Exodus. mentioned twice by one Caldari pilot one week ago. Generates half a dozen defensive responses from Gallente and friends. Armeggeda iscariah wrote:Caldari seem pretty mad in this thread ... Checks out. Grimwood troll best troll.
To be fair, I'm fairly certain that us Gallente posters would reply half a dozen times to a blank wall ) |

Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
208
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:36:00 -
[174] - Quote
Gotta do something at work.
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Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
212
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:48:00 -
[175] - Quote
Two separate Frog fleets ran from us last night, both would have been great fights. |

JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
257
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:12:00 -
[176] - Quote
You mean your logi fleets with a few support DPS ships? Sorry if I'm just stereotyping here. The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts. |

Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
212
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:05:00 -
[177] - Quote
JAF Anders wrote:You mean your logi fleets with a few support DPS ships? Sorry if I'm just stereotyping here.
No, local reps and no ewar. Coincidentally, both Frog fleets had logi. |

SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
55
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:19:00 -
[178] - Quote
Phaade wrote:JAF Anders wrote:You mean your logi fleets with a few support DPS ships? Sorry if I'm just stereotyping here. No, local reps and no ewar. Coincidentally, both Frog fleets had logi. But squid fleets have cynos. |

Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
313
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:28:00 -
[179] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Phaade wrote:JAF Anders wrote:You mean your logi fleets with a few support DPS ships? Sorry if I'm just stereotyping here. No, local reps and no ewar. Coincidentally, both Frog fleets had logi. But squid fleets have cynos.
I'm just curious if the ex-nulli guys will light cynosure for rzr blobs. QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |

Mira deVorsha
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
15
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:25:00 -
[180] - Quote
Andre Vauban wrote:SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Phaade wrote:JAF Anders wrote:You mean your logi fleets with a few support DPS ships? Sorry if I'm just stereotyping here. No, local reps and no ewar. Coincidentally, both Frog fleets had logi. But squid fleets have cynos. I'm just curious if the ex-nulli guys will light cynosure for rzr blobs.
No need still got 28 cyno ships available, donations for cyno ships in the way of tears are always welcome, gives me something to read while working. The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology [GHIOT] CEO Top Killing Caldari FW Corporation.-á |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2382
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:05:00 -
[181] - Quote
Mira deVorsha wrote: No need still got 28 cyno ships available, donations for cyno ships in the way of tears are always welcome, gives me something to read while working.
Hey you sound just like Mira's previous owner!
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Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
21
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:23:00 -
[182] - Quote
Phaade wrote:Two separate Frog fleets ran from us last night, both would have been great fights.
The consequences of consistently hotdropping null groups on otherwise great fights. People stop believing you actually want said fight. |

Arla Sarain
43
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Posted - 2014.07.19 11:54:00 -
[183] - Quote
Lets start the drama again
>Galmil T2, Calmil T1 >CCP maek plex changes >no calmil farmer ever again plexs in galmil systems >CCP adds omnidrictal track links >Galmil in T3 with fed navy tracking links going for 3000 isk/lp >Join galmil sit in calmil plex, get 17500 LP ~50mill isk. >150mill isk in 30 minutes
GF GF GF
#CCPilluminati #gallmilbias |

Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
248
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Posted - 2014.07.19 13:55:00 -
[184] - Quote
LP item conversion rates fluctuate so individual items were not taken into account when deciding to go to Tier3. I'm sure plenty of people are taking advantage of the nice pay day though!
\o/ Gal Mil = Best Mil BLFOX is currently recruiting |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2388
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:59:00 -
[185] - Quote
It's not our fault we have CCP chatgris, Fozzie and that French guy Yttr on our side.
Arla Sarain wrote:Lets start the drama again
>Galmil T2, Calmil T1 >CCP maek plex changes >no calmil farmer ever again plexs in galmil systems >CCP adds omnidrictal track links >Galmil in T3 with fed navy tracking links going for 3000 isk/lp >Join galmil sit in calmil plex, get 17500 LP ~50mill isk. >150mill isk in 30 minutes
GF GF GF
#CCPilluminati #gallmilbias
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Arla Sarain
45
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:12:00 -
[186] - Quote
EvE sandbox with CCP being the fat kid on the block that bullies everyone, crushes all the sandcastles and steals candy. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2389
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:35:00 -
[187] - Quote
Arla Sarain wrote:Either way, doesn't make it any less suspicious over how convenient the situation is. Yes, it's very convenient, isn't it? Instead of complaining on the forums, why don't you try to get one of your guys on the CCP payroll?
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1011
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Posted - 2014.07.19 16:42:00 -
[188] - Quote
Arla Sarain wrote:EvE sandbox with CCP being the fat kid on the block that bullies everyone, crushes all the sandcastles and steals candy.
Either way, doesn't make it any less suspicious over how convenient the situation is.
Before the pelx changes warzone control depended largely on farmers, and would swing like a pendulum. After plex changes Gallente are entrenched so deep with no opposing NUMBERS to actually start moving systems. Naturally, Tier 3 rises due to initiative and overflowing LP. Adding insult to injury you get an item that everyone wants in fed navy store.
Minmatar mil has been at tier 4 for years. But why care, their LP sucks. Tier 3 galmil is better of than tier 4 minnies.
Toplel.
I didnt realise your main was banned from posting damar.
Scorps and ravens have been great items in the cal mil store for years, holding value even when you guys were high tier.
Im sorry that perhaps you havent had the best items to trade with for the last couple of months, even though the ones you have are as good as they ever were.
As for numbers, i see multiple medium size gangs per night flying through. Though they seem happier dropping dreads on offline towers than actually being productive. Doesnt make their numbers less though. |

Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
226
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Posted - 2014.07.19 17:23:00 -
[189] - Quote
Only 3k:1 lp ratio? What a peasant.
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
366
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Posted - 2014.07.19 19:01:00 -
[190] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote: I didnt realise your main was banned from posting damar.
Oh snap first thing i thought after his first line of writing
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
213
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:06:00 -
[191] - Quote
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Phaade wrote:JAF Anders wrote:You mean your logi fleets with a few support DPS ships? Sorry if I'm just stereotyping here. No, local reps and no ewar. Coincidentally, both Frog fleets had logi. But squid fleets have cynos.
There is a cyno on every derplin and tackle harpy in templis, didnt you know? |

Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
213
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:12:00 -
[192] - Quote
Josclyn Verreuil wrote:Phaade wrote:Two separate Frog fleets ran from us last night, both would have been great fights. The consequences of consistently hotdropping null groups on otherwise great fights. People stop believing you actually want said fight.
Haha, I actually laughed at that. |

Arla Sarain
48
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:19:00 -
[193] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote: I didnt realise your main was banned from posting damar.
Elaborate please. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1907

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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:21:00 -
[194] - Quote
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
34. Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
More often than not, posts of this nature are made with inflammatory intent and are designed to promote trolling and flaming. Therefore, the posting of links to kill reports from any third party site, or the direct copy-pasting of kill reports from in game is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online Forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
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