As someone who pays for his account the old fashion way and gets free PLEX on occasion, I can only point and laugh at all of you who spend hours grinding each month just to be able to play.

But when Candles makes comments like "Probably be better off not spending that money on video games instead of more important things though", that is casting value judgements.

Dude im not complaining about my monthly salary. (read the link i posted).. Im just tired of those "elitists" that moaning "get a job" while they cannot see behind their national border, how the rest of the world lives and what average monthly salary is "out there"..

My monthly ingame isk icome is waaaaay over PLEX price and my ingame needs, thats why i PLEX my account rather than pay 21 EUR for it. For 21 EUR i can buy food for a 5-6 days.

I missed the point... what point are you trying to make? People complain plex is too expensive, I say it's perfectly fine, and you don't like that I say that. Pretty clear to me.

If you can't afford $15 a month, yeah you are poor. That's 50 cents a day. Barely enough to feed a starving child in Africa, or so that's what the infomercials on TV say.

It's a giant crock of poo to say that plex prices are going to be preventing a lot of people from playing. The poor non westerners or what have you that can't afford a sub are not the ones losing out on this. It's the vocal, minority bitter-vets that are up in arms about it. And what's funny is they are probably the ones causing the prices to rise in the first place.

It's like some of you don't remember that PLEX is a relatively new thing, eve did just fine without it for many years. If PLEX didn't exist anymore tomorrow, eve wouldn't die because of it...

You aren't the only one with a dangerous profession, but it's NORMAL to have a job to pay for entertainment. I don't go to the movies and work the snack bar for a couple of hours so I can get a ticket.... I have a job to pay for the necessities and the extravagances (which my job also includes a uniform, and guns).

Tippia is definitely right in this particular discussion

You guys agreeing with him here out of the 500,000 EVE accounts while i am sure boost his ego, it means absolutely zero. As you guys make up to small of a sample size to make a difference.

Hmm... not entierly true.

We know polly wasn't paying attention during Statistics class. Probably too busy grinding ISK for her accounts.

Tippia's way of arguing reminds of of the old school yard tactics of .
"I know you are but what am I"
and
"I'm rubber and your glue what ever you say bounces off from me and sticks to you"

It is freaking hysterical.
Keep it up ole buddy. It have been a wonderful laugh the past few days watching your simple mind at work has brought me amusement.

And let me save you some time Tippia so you do not have to respond.

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You call me simple? STRAW MAN

Saying I argue like a small child? ad hominem !!!!!!!!!

Fallacy Fallacy Terms I use but don't understand.
signed Tippia

From this thread I have concluded that:

I like pie.

grrr Goons.

Gold ammo is awesome and I wants some.

The thread needs more latin informal fallacies. I suggest:


Ad Hominem: When lacking a counter argument attack the person and call them an idiot/hippy/pedophile.
Ad Absurdum: Appeal to Ridicule - basically if you can make it look silly it must be wrong.
Ad Antiquitatem: Appeal to Tradition - yep back in the old days we got it right so take note.
Ad Baculum: Appeal to Fear ... watch out those commo jihadist mafia teenage street gangs will get you.
Ad Hominem Tu Quoque: Personal Inconsistency ... who cares what I said last post
Ad Ignorantium: Argument from Ignorance ... basically I am right and that makes all the evidence wrong.
Ad Metum: another Appeal to Fear ... popular one this one.
Ad Misericordiam: Appeal to Pity .... I must be correct else you have no compassion and kill kittens.
Ad Nauseum: Repetition - if I say it over and over people will believe it.
Ad Novitam: Appeal to Novelty ... its so weird it must be true.
Ad Numeram: Appeal to Common Practice ... we all do it and we cannot all be wrong ... can we ?
Ad Populum: Appeal to Common Belief or Bandwagon ... if its popular it must be true.
Ad Ridiculum: another Appeal to Ridicule ... works well.
Ad Verecundiam: Appeal to Authority ... just indulge in name dropping. also called Ad Auctoritate.
*** Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc: This is actually a formal fallacy
Dicto Simpliciter: Lets make a big point of things that are similar by accident.
Ignoratio Elenchi: Missing the Point. A good way of side tracking a discussion.
In Terrorem: Appeal to Fear (again) this one is the favorite of the political right.
Non Causa Pro Causa: This is actually a formal fallacy
Non Sequitur: See Affirming the Consequent, Denying the Antecedent or Missing the Point.
Petitio Principii: Begging the Question. talking in circles really.
Plurium Interrogationum: fool them with too many Questions
Post Hoc: Formal fallacy. X follows Y. Therefore X is caused by Y. Favorite of the popular press.
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc: see Post Hoc
Reductio ad Absurdum: yep Appeal to Ridicule yet again, embaress tehm so no-one will take any notice.
Reductio ad Ridiculum: another Appeal to Ridicule, popular isn't it.

I like you, Polly. You know how to forum.

As for the rest of you. Get off your one-trick ponies. They need a rest. Status quo is comfortable, I know. But seriously, I've owned parrots that have better critical thinking skills than most of you.

Mr Epeen

As a father and family man, my time to play eve is now fairly limited to maybe a couple of hours a night playing internet spaceships when the family goes to bed. I am concerned for my ability to play as I have to spend more time earning isk to pay for gametime and less time blowing ships up.

With the rising cost of plex, I understand that it may be supergreat for all of you people with disposable income and time, but for some of us, the cost of this game is getting prohibitive.

I may have to take a break until the bubble bursts or ccp intervenes or both.