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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:34:09 -
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I'm looking for dogfighting that requires proper rolling. This would be an issue of speed and agility, and it is possible to make ships incapable of pursuing themselves. I'd consider that broken.
A starting point to check maneuverability would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_fighter_maneuvers the section on displacement rolls. The basic situation is two ships dogfighting, with one giving chase. When the defending ship rolls left, the amateur reaction is following it in a left roll. However, an opposite roll places the attacker into the "control zone", which is a cone-shaped area behind the defending ship where it is vulnerable to guns.
Following the defending ship in a left roll would result in excessive speed and overshooting the control zone. I'm looking for ships that are balanced for agility sufficiently that they can successfully maneuver with proper displacement rolls, and also fail horribly by flying like a n00b.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.28 16:49:36 -
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left stick... up and down for pitch, left and right for roll,
right stick... right and left for yaw.
so a coordinated right turn would be: left stick back and to the right, right stick to the right.
I'll call Commissar Kate in here, she's hardcore into flight sims. she had a point to make about zero gravity flight and how it makes conventional flight rules irrelevant.. Of course that type of thing has to be put in for the sake of fun, though.
There's still inertia and (hopefully) forward-facing guns, so some conventional maneuvering would apply.
There's another maneuver that I hope will make it in... it's basically an extreme air brake, where you use the underside of your plane/ship and face it into direction of travel. It turns into a compressed barrel roll, and would send a pursuing ship flying past. It's the maneuver Maverick uses famously in Top Gun. In space, I suppose it would require rotating to face thrusters forward and then accelerating.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.28 18:21:51 -
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when I hear full newtonian I think of ship speeds without an upper limit--it just accumulates with thrust.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.29 05:46:10 -
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Yeah, I recall seeing bits of that show. In one dogfight, Starbuck turned the ship completely around to keep shooting.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:51:53 -
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phrasing!
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.24 20:06:00 -
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Watching some ED gameplay of k8's was great aside from the constant stop-rotate-burn that fighting devolves into. I don't know how to solve it without locking ships into atmospheric flight, and I'm hoping valkyrie does a better job of handling dogfighting. If either pilot has the option to stop and rotate to cause the other ship to overshoot, it turns into that and doesn't stop. constantly sitting with the other ship off-screen is gameplay-breaking for me.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:09:31 -
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Karuck, is there a chance yaw will be as effective as the ailerons? I spent some time thinking about the stop-turn-burn loop (that I dislike), and I think the best way to avoid the repetitive pulling is having the option of yaw, to aim my guns L and R without having to roll then pull first. I'd like to see stop-turn-burn be as ineffective as possible.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:26:01 -
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I'm super excited about the flight characteristics I saw in the Fanfest videos. Every time I think about it.
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