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QuinHaden
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Posted - 2003.09.28 14:15:00 -
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Hanns
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your DEFUNCT corp, or the 'carebears'?   
Carebares NEVARRR!
Traitor...
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QuinHaden
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Posted - 2003.09.28 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: QuinHaden on 28/09/2003 14:18:07
Die Harpie
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Karma's a ***** isn't it, Smoked?
Then watch yourself...
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QuinHaden
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Posted - 2003.09.28 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: QuinHaden on 28/09/2003 14:32:56
Hanns
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OK to cut a long story short, Smoked (in our opinoin) = BAD CEO so we take everything that WE worked for (no ONE man can make a corp and all the assets!) and we make new corp with new leadership!
Basicly M3G4 is just now a one man corp! Smoked!
and Biomass Cartel is all the good guys and fighters from M3G4!
OK so you say you good guy. Basically you = self righteous dipstick. M3G4 was the corp. you join and others trust you.
And you BACKSTAB CEO, to form new POS corp.
Traitorą
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Ezra
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Posted - 2003.09.28 14:38:00 -
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I know m3g4 still out of beta days, tbh never liked em, but i must say it is a lame way to rob a corp empty and start a new one!
Hope u will stay ingame smoked and build another corp
What is wrong with that?
we own everything so why not make a new corp because our CEO was to stubbourn to resign his leader ship and Threatend to SELL everything we worked for on E-bay!
what would you have done!
Taking some of the assets - Maybe.
Taking ALL of the assets - I hope you burn.
FYI, a bunch of members of my first corp (Militech, Inc.) were unhappy with the way things were being run by the CEO and execs (A bunch of RL friends). Essentially they went inactive and didn't pass on their responsiblilities.
So we decided to split off, for many of the same reasons you did.
Two of the people involved (Myself and allissa) were the only two active members with any sort of access. We could have taken EVERYTHING the corp owned - 10mill in minerals, spare ships, a Vexor original, an irreplacable Exequeror copy Militech had traded for.
But we were more honest than that. When Exodus formed, all we took from Militech was a single copy of their Vexor blueprint. I even gave Hirohito (former CEO) a few mill as a parting gift to get him back on his feet. Yes, he screwed up, but out of incompetence and not malice, and deserved a chance to learn from his mistakes. I even gave Militech copies of nearly every blueprint I owned (90% or more of the corp's original BPs - nearly everything but ships - were my own personal property, purchased with my own cash.) We held off the long-anticipated breakaway by over a week in order to accomplish this, in fact.
As a result, Militech is still alive and is actually doing much better than before as a result of its CEOs learning from their mistakes. (Actually, about 1/3 of Exodus was convinced to return, with allissa replacing Hiro as CEO. Most of the remainder quit the game entirely within 2 weeks or so of the breakaway - We were all too burned out from a month of nightmares in Militech. Of the original 20 or so members of Exodus, I think only 4-5 are still playing.)
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Ezra Cornell
pe0n, Xanadu Corporation |
Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.09.28 14:47:00 -
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What is wrong with that?
we own everything so why not make a new corp because our CEO was to stubbourn to resign his leader ship and Threatend to SELL everything we worked for on E-bay!
what would you have done!
1. nobody asked me to leave, they just stole everything and left
2. I have never sold anything on ebay in my life so stop with your foolish lies.
I am shocked that we decided to make this a three ring circus to be looked at and commented on by peanut gallery that has no clue. What's done is done.
This has nothing to do with all of you outside of M3G4 and your pathetic areas of space especially Venal.
Smoked this is the one comment I agree on. I wish we could have asked you to resign with dignity. However most of you reading can realize what us conspirators thought a crazed CEO would have done --- holding all the power and wealth --- having all game access' --- would have done to the insurgency.
So a Coup occured to insure that we would not be left in 'Deep Core Mining' newbie Corp with just the clothes on our backs. We feel that we had to position ourselves for the future of what we could salvage from M3G4.
I know what you are saying or thinking to yourself Smoked. And you are right. I was the most loyal to you and M3G4 since BETA. I feel like Brutus himself putting the final dagger in to you. I don't make any excuses though. The conspirators treated me with kid gloves until the very moment they decided to excute their plan and to let me 'in'. The ENTIRE senior echelon of M3G4 told me why they were in revolt. Faced with the overwhelming evidence in our kangeroo court I accepted and joined them leaving very few left for you Smoked.
So here we are, the die is cast...Devil be damned.
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
LaneHacker
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Posted - 2003.09.28 16:05:00 -
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I like the new name better...
M3G4 was too "1337"...
=Vagabonds= |
cball
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Posted - 2003.09.28 16:28:00 -
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Scum sucking griefers to the last. Can't even resist the urge to grief your own corp-mates, can anyone in your new corp be trusted NOT to do the same again...(karma is a wicked biatch, and she don't care who gets a healthy dose, nor how often)
i need to corretc your statement "cant even resist the urge to grief your own corp-MATE"
you seem to fail to understand, only person left in M3G4 is smoked.
No correction needed scum, Biomass was the target of the comment, not smoke, but what ever your pea sized mentality can handle, after all, you are only a ****ant griefer, and won't last.
...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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NymphoGrrrl
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Posted - 2003.09.28 16:36:00 -
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nymphogrrl, lots of corps are dying, good ones and pirate ones.
Look at STK scientific they are going to merge with a new corp. My own corp has been to the edge, with some effort from certain people in it, i think its been turned around. we shed a lot of members though in the process.
you know why this is happening to lots of large, well known, well experianced corps?
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE AND GOT THE TSHIRT.
there is hardly anything to do in this game, there is about 1 months worth of content in it. ater that you just go on doing the same old same old for the sake of it.
why do i need more isk?? i cant spend it on anything the corp doesent already own, so it looses its value. no incentive there for me to make money or do anything.
in short... the game is a dodo.
small minds shouldn't RPG, thats why you are bored after a month....
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DATEK
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:01:00 -
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There is no honor among thieves, and in the Universe EVE, there is little honor among anyone.
DATEK
CEO, Frog Morton Industries |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:12:00 -
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NVA response to the collapse of M3G4
Here
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |
Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:15:00 -
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Yeah, karma bites you in the ass, don't it....
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.28 18:18:00 -
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Faced with the overwhelming evidence in our kangeroo court I accepted and joined them leaving very few left for you Smoked.
Not sure how you can have 'overwhelming evidence' in a 'kangeroo court' however be it as it may what is done is now done, and the theives will pay I am sure. Everyone hates pirates, and everyone hates corp theives even more.
90% of the ppl who left were not with the corp from the foundation and begining. So they were not entitled to it's assets in full, however they made beleive they were and well it's all gone now.
Gladdly I have already been offered gratitued gifts from some people I know in Eve, even bpc's to get the corp running again. I will reform and will not pirate anymore as most have said in this topic, with evil, brings evil. I should have expected this.
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.28 18:19:00 -
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oh yes, and please state your 'evidence' I know numerous loyalist who have been asked to join your corp asked, what prof you had, and nobody ever gets a clear answer.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.28 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 28/09/2003 18:26:29
If you're reforming could you please drop the tainted name? I'd gladly donate a few isks to see it go.
Convert Stations
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The Engineer
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Posted - 2003.09.28 18:37:00 -
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LOL @ Smoked
You are lucky the corp members didn't have the same dedication to role playing as you.
If I was Role Playing a Pirate and want'd to be rid of the CEO - I would have podded you as well as stripping your assets!
LOL
Opinions expressed are my own and do not neccessaraly reflect the view of my corp as a whole - Although I suspect they do!
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iconoclast
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Posted - 2003.09.28 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: iconoclast on 28/09/2003 19:32:30
a pirate's den is no place for a boy scout. hold back some for yourself next time. 1/3 in private hanger or whatever. even if it not your fault. it still your fault.
ps. the one thing they cannot take from you is history. so do not be so quick to throw away what is actually the most valuable in the game. any new corp has nothing really. no matter how much stuff it begins with.
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Probe
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:04:00 -
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U youngins talk alot of the glory of the pirate life... saddly the life of pirate had alot of hardships... life expectancy was low, high chances of dying from sifilis and other such deseases due to the overworked professionals... and the Captains had to be always on their heels because crew muttiny was very common when things didn't work right.
Now its just a matter of time until things start "not working right" with Biomass
Moral of the Story: Surround yerself with ppl with low moral values... and expect a backstab at anytime!
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Hanns
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:24:00 -
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I know m3g4 still out of beta days, tbh never liked em, but i must say it is a lame way to rob a corp empty and start a new one!
Hope u will stay ingame smoked and build another corp
What is wrong with that?
we own everything so why not make a new corp because our CEO was to stubbourn to resign his leader ship and Threatend to SELL everything we worked for on E-bay!
what would you have done!
Taking some of the assets - Maybe.
Taking ALL of the assets - I hope you burn.
FYI, a bunch of members of my first corp (Militech, Inc.) were unhappy with the way things were being run by the CEO and execs (A bunch of RL friends). Essentially they went inactive and didn't pass on their responsiblilities.
So we decided to split off, for many of the same reasons you did.
Two of the people involved (Myself and allissa) were the only two active members with any sort of access. We could have taken EVERYTHING the corp owned - 10mill in minerals, spare ships, a Vexor original, an irreplacable Exequeror copy Militech had traded for.
But we were more honest than that. When Exodus formed, all we took from Militech was a single copy of their Vexor blueprint. I even gave Hirohito (former CEO) a few mill as a parting gift to get him back on his feet. Yes, he screwed up, but out of incompetence and not malice, and deserved a chance to learn from his mistakes. I even gave Militech copies of nearly every blueprint I owned (90% or more of the corp's original BPs - nearly everything but ships - were my own personal property, purchased with my own cash.) We held off the long-anticipated breakaway by over a week in order to accomplish this, in fact.
As a result, Militech is still alive and is actually doing much better than before as a result of its CEOs learning from their mistakes. (Actually, about 1/3 of Exodus was convinced to return, with allissa replacing Hiro as CEO. Most of the remainder quit the game entirely within 2 weeks or so of the breakaway - We were all too burned out from a month of nightmares in Militech. Of the original 20 or so members of Exodus, I think only 4-5 are still playing.)
We didnt take ALL the assets most of the rares and blueprints are still in M3G4 we took what we worked for!
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:46:00 -
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So let me guess, you took all cruiser and battleship blue prints and left the frigate and basic cargo expander blueprints.
Cant get more scum of the galaxy than Biomass Cartel thats for sure.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:48:00 -
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Seems to me we can't even build a miner1 because we don't have the blueprint, you took that as well.
Your lies will give you no compasion here hanns. Everyone knows you are all just corp theives now.
All the rares are on Diesels ships how can they be in the corp hangar.
You mearly made me the scape goat to justify your theivery and take loyal members away from my corp that you know full well would have stayed had you not lied to them.
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:50:00 -
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Yes sir, indeed, we are luck if we can find a frigate blueprint. They even took the anti-matter small which was purchased long before most of the members who left ever joined the corp.
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:57:00 -
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Cant get more scum of the galaxy than Biomass Cartel thats for sure.
Totaly agree. Me an smoked never seen eye to eye but you scum stripped him bare in a bad way. Thats the lowest, i hope you all enjoy watching each other like hawks and any new member who joins because thats the route you have taken. Please dont come to the forums saying we done all the work we get all the loot thats crap and you know it dont try to justify it to yourselves. You have ruined the game for many supposedly FREINDS in your corp. People will quit the game with months of work down the drain just because YOU are greedy theiving scum...... rant over 
Smoked any help you need to rebuild we are here.
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Morlocke
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Posted - 2003.09.28 21:36:00 -
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Can't say as I really feel bad for either side here.
When you hang with juveniles with guns, you end up with a crowd about as trustworth as the Liberian army under Taylor. Trusting a bunch like that was rather foolish, so lesson learned.
That crowd now has the title "Biomass Cartel", which seems mildly appropriate, given the greeting they'll receive from everyone who meets them. Hope you guys don't expect any reception other than a quick mulching by the rest of the universe ).
Smoked, I'd offer to help, but you don't have enough of a history as anything other than a pirate for me to rely on. Maybe in a month or two, let's sit down and talk. Might be some mutual hunting opportunities we could get into.
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Archa
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Posted - 2003.09.28 22:12:00 -
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Just make a list of all the members who deserted m3g4 and make sure they never get into your corp.
they will rob you blind without remorse.
that's all.
This once again shows that you can't trust anybody but yourself. (hmm i actually don't trust myself... got blown up 3 times... damn)
good luck smoked.
nobody deserves to get robbed like you got.
pirate or no pirate
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NoHawker
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Posted - 2003.09.29 02:25:00 -
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This is so odd, weeks ago when I attacked M3G4 I almost wasted Hanns in his pathetic badger II. His corpies came to his defense including smoked. You should have seen the fiasco they were like the best of buddies I ever did see, the held each others hands as we played cat and mouse.
Smoked and Hanns why don't you two girls kiss and make up, you two where so sweet together.
What are you going to do?
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Hellshot
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Posted - 2003.09.29 04:40:00 -
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Corp Robbery is a scary thing that no-one should have to go through. Even if it was Smoked in m3g4, It is still a sad thing. Hope retribution is payed out!
* Hellshot the Uber Mining Pimp * |
Johnsus
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Posted - 2003.09.29 08:18:00 -
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Let me get this straight...
A corp that made fun time out of terrorizing, manipulating, cheating, stealing, bombing, ruining tons of other people's fun time turned bare-teeth on it's own...
...and we are sympathetic, why?
Die, 16 y/o gamers. You should stick to PS2 and let us adults handle corporate sims. You haven't learned **** here.
Johnsus - CEO
"When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me."
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Orestes
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Posted - 2003.09.29 08:22:00 -
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Moved from General Discussions
Join the IC! |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.29 14:09:00 -
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{The thread where NVA proposed these surrender terms to Smoked and M3G4 has been locked, so no response to our offer could be registered there. I have therefore moved these terms here to give the representatives of M3G4 corp the ability to respond.)
Smoked,
Firstly, though you were our enemy, we are sorry to see that the M3G4 war effort ended in this way.
Your fighters, though pirates, were courageous and made a great effort to carry the Taggart cause.
Still in every war there must be a losing side and there is no shame in admitting defeat once matters have reached an inevitable conclusion.
Lurk and Hammah have passed on your chatlog asking for terms to leave.
The NVA council has no problem with this.
You need to make a formal post on Corp Forum or General ... stating that M3G4 formally surrender to the NVA and ask for terms of peaceful transit from the region.
We will grant this, on the condition you pass M3G4 regional offices to NVA corps at pre-arranged times in days to come.
Once the declaration is made and accepted, and the offices are transfered, we will remove M3G4 from the KOS list and allow your exodus ships free passage from Venal and the matter will be concluded.
Love and peace
Jade Constantine for the NVA Council
Jericho Fraction
Note
It has not been 24 hours since this offer was first posted and we have had no afirmative response from M3G4 representatives. We would like to remind all M3G4 personal that they are currently KOS in Venal and Pureblind and beyond and they they will be targetted, killed, and podded by NVA fleet assets until formal notification of their public surrender and acceptance of our terms is proven.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |
Hanns
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:51:00 -
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Seems to me we can't even build a miner1 because we don't have the blueprint, you took that as well.
Your lies will give you no compasion here hanns. Everyone knows you are all just corp theives now.
All the rares are on Diesels ships how can they be in the corp hangar.
You mearly made me the scape goat to justify your theivery and take loyal members away from my corp that you know full well would have stayed had you not lied to them.
you make this sound lie all my master plan, i did not know of this untill about one hour before we all got booted from the corp!
and i went along wit hit BECAUSE I HEARD THE TRUTH!
THE TRUTH THAT ONLY YOU AND BIOMASS KNOWS! the rest of the forums dont know crap, so i dont know hwy you bothered making posts!
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