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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.28 11:53:00 -
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TL:DR Words!
Yo, Axloth ... Yes and No!
Yes you are right, Wormholers coming to Null is Wormhole stuff (hate the C word), but No to its not "bla bla"
Wormholes reaching out to Nullsec is something that wasn't a thing because "WORMHOLES" since people got better at it, people went out more, also more guys from the outside knew how to handle 0.0 so it became a mush. But it is still a replacement for the dull enviroment that has been Wormholes in general. Not talking about the fights .. HK v Noho Framing... EPIC!
But you gotta wonder if i choose Wormholes as the safe way out of VFK, where they boxed me in and tried combat scanning me, still i was safe and extracted via a c5 towards a c3 into low ... without AAANY interference...thanks chitsa
The 70%-80% dull + 15% Forcefielded + 5% actually fight worthy Enviroment is not really a "PvP Heaven", Yes you can go complete boncus but on the "Average" Level below 15 Players, its kinda "rough".
Not to sound butthurt, quite the opposite. Some of the most active Scanners i ve seen were in SUSU or BloJo, with up to 10 people actively seeking targets and crashing holes, but some times even then we had to admit defeat because of "reasons" or "numbers" but hell if chances were taken .. BOOOOM BOOOOM Love you long time...and again why does it have to be "IF" i always wanna take chances...
I'm happy that Wormholes is reaching more out to 0.0 (I ve seen quite a few guys around my current homesystem), because that means that People are having fun and are engaging PVP sooo YEEEAH. But it stil bugs me as to it is the fact that its rather a substitute than a choice because given the choice i would assume that people would rather fight in wormholes with EPICNESS then Roam in 0.0, although latest capital engagement would assume "no" but then again I ask you as someone that is chilling with his 10 Friends in a C5 and is barely able to do sites like most of the "upcoming" generations...
[not that i m doing that but as a "Point of View"]
Don't missunderstand, I HEAVILY ENDORSE MEGA CORPS by now because they "negate" most of the "organisational" bullshit that makes so many people leave and more people can enjoy "FUN", still as a long term perspective the (GOGO GADGETTOSOCIOLOGY) segregational gap between "Small/Normal" and "Mega" needs a little bit more then just "adjustable" fleet sizes to be able to cultivate a healthy Wormholespace Community, where you can have a fight at every 2nd door and locals being more bitchy then just the usual minor "bullshid". Everything needs a Longinous Spear to the face.
Also with the loss of one of the Dramaqueens, stuff will get very dull in this forum.
But it's not or it shouldn't be an actuall community problem, which it isn't, it's a general development issue of Wormholes, where there is actually "No Incentive" of Defense and even if your stuff is getting sieged you rather choose the "safe" way and logout what you can, which is more than fair. So what would be an incentive to "get" people to PvP or have to fight without the worry of loosing EVERYTHING!
I would love to see CCP trying more with the ESS in Wormhole space, so you have some sort of "punishing/incentive" mechanic. If you dont defend your ESS no Sites for you.... or something...(with an anchoring / onlining timer of 3-4 days + 300m Cost)
Wormhole Space isn't dieing or bad or whatever, its still the best space kinda BUT it could be way better and way more thriving!
Being on the same level as low-sec activity wise is not an achievement, it's good but you are comparing yourself with something CCP has throwing patches at since ... "FOREVER, EvE 2nd Decade buy Collectors Edition Now"
What CCP never got was that unlike 0.0, High or Low, ONE Dude in Wormholes really could be a King in his Sandcastle....and a coloney was a force. (Take a day in Class 4 space they think they are PvP Gurus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsAUx_SQYGE - seemed fitting
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:38:00 -
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Radical changes?
Hmmm
Easy:
Death to Static
Remove Moons
More Dynamic Wormholes
Remove Self Destruct within a forcefield (HUGE Incentive for Loot pinatas)
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:53:00 -
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SD in POS is not a bad mechanic, infact it has done more good then harm coming to think of it, with it rendering Sieges completly "non-profitable" compared to the ships that get destroyed.
But in that Sense enabling this Mechanic would also make EVERYONE a blooooody Loot Piniata and some other folks may peak waaaay to much interest.
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.28 18:00:00 -
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Okay "Add NO SD in FF" but Remove Capitals, pushing more for a team based approach regarding main Wormhole Mechanics (Sieging, Rolling and Hole control)
Of course you still can build as many Capitals as you want but for anything else Class 4 Laws are in effect.
But that would take away Dropping into Null ... soo yoink
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.28 18:05:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:HerrBert wrote:Okay "Add NO SD in FF" but Remove Capitals, pushing more for a team based approach regarding main Wormhole Mechanics (Sieging, Rolling and Hole control) I'll counter with "Add NO SD in FF", keep Capitals, give POS's a better defense game against sieging. There's your minigame :P
Dota as Pos Defense.
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN WORMHOLE SPACE HAS BEEN FIXED
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:41:00 -
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Axloth Okiah wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:You don't need to LIVE in a wormhole to do that. That is correct in theory. I'd like to see a kspace group that is actually successfully doing that, though.
Hi
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:10:00 -
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Caleratu as much as I understand your point of view... and we said we were sorry about that C5>C2 incedent...
Invasions and Sieges are BAD! REEEEAAAALLY BAD! Now that doesnt mean I support a NIP NAP snippydysnap, BUT!
What is bad about Invasions:
- Mechanics
Everybody and their brother can agree that the Mechanics dominating Wormhole Sieges, are soo out of WHACK, that it is almost silly. Esspecially if you compare it to the rest. Most of the Time people are better of doing Expos ISK Wise then actually Sieging.
Which brings me to WHY? The Why is most of the TIME REEEEEEAALLY BAD! To make it silly i will put them in a ranking list:
1 - Shitton of Stuff (24 SMAs) aka the LOOT PINATA, you can also ask James Arget about such Blitzsieges (Covenant of the Phoenix if i m not mistaken) but it actually got kicked off by CO2 who have been doing it in 2013 and of course its a pure PROFIT MOTIVE
2 - The "OMGHESAIDBADTHINGS" Arguement: As most prominent example you have the HK Invasion or the Battle for Zedland...
3 - "A new home is best painted with the blood of its previous owners" - as it was done with your previous previous home by SUSU
4 - CLEANSE ALL THE CLASS. Every once in the while somebody is on a holy crusade vs AntiBob, Carebears or NULL.. sometimes all 3 together. Its also pretty popular to keep the focus on one specific class...
Chitsa 2012 - Class 6 Free of Null
5 - MERC. For example Repercussus can be hired for 2b and provide 30 Ishtar/proteii at your service .. Siege and Defense
As you can see there is not really a variaty of reasons that can consequently lead to sieges / invasions which brings me to the last point why SIEGES ARE ****!!!!!
Although i would argue that its only "a big boy" thing, i know of alot of people that provided assistence for distressed small corps (SSC and NOHO being the Prominent WHITE KNIGHTS)
So whats bad about Sieges? It's the "fun" for each individual Member, were you have to differentiate between "committed" and "casual" ... and even aggressing and defending, since most of the "Siege" Entertainment is WATCHING combined with a serious amount of WAITING! So you have pressure and BOREDOM AND the fact that you would be better off running homesites and roll for PvP.
And then there is something I always see with tears in my eyes... with every Siege "potential" PvP gets WIPED.....
So Mechanics, Reasons and strain on the individual player are not really pointing towards "invasions" being fun, esspecially if the mentality is supplemented by the nasty taste of Led and batphone......
Most of the TIME I feel Sieges are like the following:
You put a gun to someones head and say Entertain me but i will shoot you anyways. Its counterproductive...
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.06.30 18:38:00 -
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I admire your "creative" view on the matter, but honest reality check .. 50 dudes without pants infront of a computer screen guarding a Forcefield is not pleasent....
although there were highlights...
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:02:00 -
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It depends on the scale of your operation. Yes Sieges can be nerv wrecking days of all or nothing, BUT...if you enter the realm of a "Line" member, you have some of the most boring structure grind.
Yes Leadership and Cap Pilots are in for a Ride, but think about your 10-20 other friends, waiting and hoping. Lots of the times its their Opinion that decides about OP SUCCESS :)
If you have 100% Dedication and commitment .. then yes sieges can be fun, but you cannot expect that from anyone in an internet spaceship game...
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.07.01 11:28:00 -
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Mate my last private Siege Entertainment:
Season 0-2 Spartacus
Homebase Sandwich Bar (Litterally i could make sooooo manyyyy sandwiches)
Skyrim (unplayed before)
Lots of Naughty Material (Chocolate, Chips, Cigerrettes)
I can handle my Siege ... doesnt mean I have to enjoy it ...
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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HerrBert
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:12:00 -
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Corbexx Death to static would be very radical.
In fact its not really death to static as you always need a hole. But rather death to Target Static.
I would rather like something along the lines of "Group Static"
So you have a Static that doesnt go to c5 all the time it goes to C4/C5/C6 (HighClass) or C1/C2/C3 Lowclass .. giving for example rolling crews a harder challenge if the "dynamic static" would hit a c4.
For Lowclass this would mean the same with the specials C2 and C4....
C2 would have a dual static for Empire and "Lowclass" or "Highclass", which also would be for the C4
So instead of this horizontal segments of corps (C5 Corps/C6 Corps yaadiiyaddi yadiii) you could have a more fluent "exploration"
So the option you can pick for your home is not a target static its rather which space you roll more into (Highclass or Lowclass)
If you want to make things reaaaaally interesting make it all class.... C6 space dialing out will be a ***** to crash.... 3b C3 ... ouch
EDIT: You may want to consider for yourself that Wormhole Control in Highclass Space is completly broken anyways :D
My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes --áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism
Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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