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Darth Eric	Posted - 2006.06.23 05:44:00 - [1] Now I will mostly be going for battleships npcing. But some ppl tell me that I should carry a mwd with me. High 3 med. dimishing nos 2 75 mm gatling t2 Med. Named MWD or AB t2( not sure what I should use, I can run a Ab forever aslong as I have the 3 medium nos on the target.) 20k scramb Best web I can afford. 2 Multi-spec's t2 Low True sansha Explosive hardener Energized Adaptive t2 (Unless I can get a faction one) Dmg Control ( best named that there is) Best CPu I can get. MAR t2 Drone: 5 Hvy thermals 5 Hvy explosive 5 small explosive or mediums. All Drones t2 maybe 1 or 2 webber Now I figure I was gunna put the ab on so I can always be with velocity and be able to own turrets more. even if I go up against a raven ill be picking the ground and be able to hold my tank as long as he has no hvy nos also why I have the jammers to get them tacklers that get on me . I dont know wut do u pirates that have a ****load of money think?
Darth Eric	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:01:00 - [2] Or should I go for a deimos. Because I am probably going to be in gangs of hac's mostly. I was thinking on a deimos a setup for like this. 5 electrons t2 1 diminishing nos. MWD t2 Best web I can get 7.5km scramb Low CPU t2 if they make them :) Dmg mod t2 Dmg control Exp hardener t2 adaptive t2 MAR t2
Kirex	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:13:00 - [3] your 3 months into the game. slow down a bit, practice using a thorax or vexor first. Your not ready, sp wise and expierience wise.
Precisionist	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:19:00 - [4] Edited by: Precisionist on 23/06/2006 06:19:56 I know how Old I am. but why don't you fill me in on some setup advice besides saying they sucks. Like what sucks about them what situation do u run into the most. Edit: this is my main and I been flying a thorax for awhile now.
Murukan	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:32:00 - [5] Originally by: Kirex Edited by: Kirex on 23/06/2006 06:14:27 your 3 months into the game. slow down a bit, practice using a thorax or vexor first. Your not ready, sp wise and expierience wise. And tbh, the setups suck. :S I'm guessing the OP was an alt considering training for those t2 drones on top of hac training takes quite awhile. Unless he is not talking about t2 heavey drones Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected])
Kirex	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:48:00 - [6] Edited by: Kirex on 23/06/2006 06:49:49 3 month characters shouldnt be in hacs. How did you even get the money? A setup for a deimos I just came up with 5 electrons 1 nos -- AB scram (20KM NOT 7.5!!) web -- armor repairer 3x hardners (explo,kin,therm) 2 CPRs --- 5 hammerhead IIs DPS: 270 I just came up with this in quick fit. I dont fly a deimos. -Use an AB instead of a MWD. If your so far away from your target you have to use a MWD, just warp out, the MWD will take a huge chunk of your cap and make your sig high, im assuming you want to keep your hac in one piece, right? :) -Use 20km sram instead of 7.5. Only frigs shold have 7.5 because they are fast enough to use it. even with a mwd your supposed to use a 20km -nos will cause you problems, I suggest you stay away from Doms and typhoons because they often carry nos. remember, you still have the cap of a cruiser. -Try to stay away from support mods on any ship unless it will make a HUGE difference. -You can run the guns,web,scram,hardners,and repairer for aprox 162 seconds, 262 seconds if you switch a hardner (kin) for a damage control. I would probably swith the kin hardner for a damage control -dont be scared to change this stup around. -try this on the test server first to get the feel. I still advise you to practice with the thorax, your not ready.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:53:00 - [7] I think its time for you to get a thorax
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.23 07:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Kirex Edited by: Kirex on 23/06/2006 06:49:49 3 month characters shouldnt be in hacs. How did you even get the money? A setup for a deimos I just came up with 5 electrons 1 nos -- AB scram (20KM NOT 7.5!!) web -- armor repairer 3x hardners (explo,kin,therm) 2 CPRs --- 5 hammerhead IIs DPS: 270 I just came up with this in quick fit. I dont fly a deimos. -Use an AB instead of a MWD. If your so far away from your target you have to use a MWD, just warp out, the MWD will take a huge chunk of your cap and make your sig high, im assuming you want to keep your hac in one piece, right? :) -Use 20km sram instead of 7.5. Only frigs shold have 7.5 because they are fast enough to use it. even with a mwd your supposed to use a 20km -nos will cause you problems, I suggest you stay away from Doms and typhoons because they often carry nos. remember, you still have the cap of a cruiser. -Try to stay away from support mods on any ship unless it will make a HUGE difference. -You can run the guns,web,scram,hardners,and repairer for aprox 162 seconds, 262 seconds if you switch a hardner (kin) for a damage control. I would probably swith the kin hardner for a damage control -dont be scared to change this stup around. -try this on the test server first to get the feel. I still advise you to practice with the thorax, your not ready. No Offence but between his and your setup his is the much better one, you dont want a thermal and kinetic hardenrs on a deimos when its best resistances are kin and therm. Maybe the 20km I would agree, and a AB on a ship that gets a bonus for MWD?
Yarek Balear	Posted - 2006.06.23 14:39:00 - [9] It's posts like ones from Kirex that encourage me to go out and shoot people tbh... Personally I found the Deimos to be a fun but extremely risky ship to fly and at the moment I can't see a whole load of reason to use it. It's simply not fast enough even with the MWD to warrant its use and you have to use blasters to get the best out of the ship, so I always felt stuck between a rock and a hard place with that ship. The Ishtar provides a good bit of flexibility but apart from speed doesn't really give much benefit over a Domi. If you want to use the Ishtar, go for some extra speed with it (take advantage of what it has over the Domi). If you want to tank, stick with the Domi.
Precisionist	Posted - 2006.06.23 18:38:00 - [10] Edited by: Precisionist on 23/06/2006 18:38:34 Ok well I can take out the AB t2 and put in the named MWD, if I get a CPR that takes 1 cpu and the second best named web which is the xj5 prototype engine( I think) not as good but can be help ful just as much specially if I keep some spare webbing drones in my drone bay for my ishtar is them faster ships just orbit me at 15km or more.
Jade Ro	Posted - 2006.06.23 22:37:00 - [11] I am 100% with everyone advising you to stick to a thorax. I have had most of my success in ... a thorax.. its a beautiful ship. Fast, cheap, and with skills maxed on drones ahhh it can take on 1 vs 1 a lot that most cant. Ive killed Raven's Apoc's Tempests.. you name it in this beast. Honestly in hindsight I think my victims setups must have sucked as I thought I had no chance in the world. But... they did drop all tech II.. hmmm Setups are my secret on this ship... But think outside of the box is my only advice. Your too new.. if your wondering about setups for a demios then your not ready for a deimos... fly a thorax.. get a feel for that ship.. then move up once you know its weaknesses and strengths in and out. Experiment with setups and you will get ideas. CEO - Aurora Empire
Avoid	Posted - 2006.06.24 01:09:00 - [12] Edited by: Avoid on 24/06/2006 01:12:22 The guy ask for help whit hes setups, He knows about the thorax. 5 fast ones. Deimos = crap hac' Never fit cpu extenders on ishtar, use 2 medium dim nos. and a few rails after you have fitted the lows and the med slots. you need the lows for the tank. forget about t2 jammers, use the t1 best named, same stats but less cpu rq. Cald ships, is the type of ships you will run into most often, a bz- jammer is always good to have fitted. mwd is only good for running, it kills your cap in pvp, but can help you get into jump range or out of dis range, if you aint nos to helled. the 5 fast ones goes for ishtar. mwd is the only thing to have one a deimos, but the diemos still sucks.
Precisionist	Posted - 2006.06.24 02:28:00 - [13] But with the AB 2 I can have 2 multi spec t2's And I been flying a thorax for 2 months now and made 150 mill all from pirate and alot more spent. But It was mostly ganged but some solo as well. So you guyss think for the ishtar is good with AB t2 instead of mwd and maybe fit a caldari racial jammer. So basically to fly a istar with a AB t2 is probably dangerous but Since im up north where ppl hunt dread guristas ill probably fit 1 caldari racial jammer just in case and maybe another racial jammer or a multi spec t2. But I guess with AB i need to be more precise on what my targets are and fittings of them. But Since im going after battleships ill probably be ok speed wise.
slothe	Posted - 2006.06.24 15:39:00 - [14] 5 ion t2 1 small nos mwd web scram med rep 800mm plate ts / db energised reactive plate ts/ db energised adaptive nano cpr t2 rcu jamming sentry frones
Kookie Snr	Posted - 2006.06.24 16:57:00 - [15] Alot of people are suggesting go for a thorax coz u're not ready 4 a deimos, I'm not getting in2 that discussion, just pointing out that the thorax has one benefit that the demios doesn't and thats the fact its a cruiser not a HAC. By this i mean most pilots, even in BS's are far far more wary of HAC turning up than a cruiser. I see a cruiser when i'm in my BS and it starts locking me and i think, cool gonna turn him 2 dust. I see a HAC turn up, not even lock me, i'm thinking not necessarily a fight i wanna get in2, and just take evasive manuveres. If you can get a decent thorax setup, which is achievable from wot i've seen, certainly pre-rmr, then u can certainly surprise a few over complacent bs pilots, this doesn't happen if you're in a HAC. Thorax's have there place in ratting.
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.06.24 17:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Kirex's Deimos Setup DPS: 270 You bad, bad man. Originally by: duffmantt the majority of -10's you meet will be highly skilled.
spRAYed	Posted - 2006.06.24 19:20:00 - [17] AB on a deimos? Might aswell just give me that 200 mill your about to loose. ------------------------------ pArlT? Ur watching too many movies dude...
Precisionist	Posted - 2006.06.24 23:41:00 - [18] I would like to know who suggested AB on deimos. I suggested a AB on a ishtar With the jammers 3 medium nost and whatknot and the one hell of a tank and a less of a cap problem then with a mwd.!

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