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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:41:00 -
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fitting a passive tank on a vulture will give you better tanking then any large shield booster setup will bring you
also: the 5LSE II 1x EM II setup, switching to 4LSEII 1x invul II 1x EM II will give you a better tank (invul II raises your tanked dps with something like 37%)
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Waxau on 02/01/2007 22:49:38
 Originally by: Deathbarrage
fitting a passive tank on a vulture will give you better tanking then any large shield booster setup will bring you
also: the 5LSE II 1x EM II setup, switching to 4LSEII 1x invul II 1x EM II will give you a better tank (invul II raises your tanked dps with something like 37%)
Incorrect - An estamels setup will give a better setup than passive . Also, with a passive setup you cant do anything. Cant snipe, tackle, nothing. The only thing its useful for is tanking missions, sentry guns, or POS.
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Ulric Wolfbane
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:18:00 -
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Ok...I love this ship!
I run it with:
5x T2 Heavies
2x 250mm Rails
1x medium shield booster
1x invulnerability hardener
1x EM hardener
3x T2 large extenders
3x T2 PDU
1x T2 BCS
But the real question is what rigs do we put on this bird? There is no rig to benefit the gang assist, so do we increase the tank or the gank?
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mmm cheese
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Posted - 2007.02.01 00:16:00 -
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3 * Medium Diminishing Nos
3 * Gang Warfare Links (1 * Shield Harmonizing / 2 * Skirmish Ones)
1 * Prototype Cloak
4 * LSE II
1 * Gist-B Photon Hardener
1 * Invuln II
3 * SPR I
1 * PDS II
EM Rig
Shield Recharge Rig
3% Shield Cap implant
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.01 00:38:00 -
[35]
Edited by: madaluap on 01/02/2007 00:34:13
Originally by: Jin Entres
Edited by: Jin Entres on 08/08/2006 12:28:38
I'm getting the skills within a week, and was planning on something of this sort (assuming it fits):
5 Heavy Neutron Blaster II (w/ Null)
2 Gang Mods
1 Warp Disruptor
1-2 Invulnerability Field II
0-1 Photon Scattering Field II
3 Large Shield Extender II
1 Internal DCU
2-3 Mag Stab II
0-1 PDS II
The range with CS IV is, if I recall correctly, about 17km optimal so I flat out drop propulsion and web. Granted frigs at close range are not easy to hit, but light drones are there for them. In mids I'm going full-out passive since guns use cap and I'll save a slot for not having to use an injector. The disruptor is of course mandatory.
In lows obviously DCU for general nberness and 2-3 damage mods, depending on if it all fits without a PDS II (tbh I don't know if it fits with just one either) and if the pilot prefers damage or tanking. I'll have to try which suits me better, but I'm guessing the damage.
17k optimal?
wow, thats one hell of a setup lol, very nice. Especially considering the lowprice of the vulture. You even got to cram some gangmods on it.
Didnt espect you to crosstrain into caldari though 
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Breetime
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.01 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 01/02/2007 05:41:02
3 diminishing nos 4 neut blasters
1 large extender 1 large booster 2 invuln 1 em ward and a web/scram
i dunno prolly half pdu/half damage mods and maybe a damage control
dropping the em hardener for both web and scram is cool
You can basically passive tank sentries, but have active setup for the tanking multiple bs and sentries. Though, when you fit like this you are always bait. I have jumped and fought 4 bs at the gates tanking em while my gang jumps in and f's everyone up.
Thought slow it has pretty nice range and damage. the 3 Nos instead of 2 and another blaster is the key.
Though i have attacked bob vultures in a mwd'ing crow orbiting at 19km and still been hit by 250's (prolly cause they were in sniper mode and had like tracking boosts up the ass)
full passive tanking is stupid since it nerfs the rest of your ship. Nos are overpowered, i hate em. They make this setup ridiculous.
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.01 07:19:00 -
[37]
Originally by: madaluap
Edited by: madaluap on 01/02/2007 00:34:13
Originally by: Jin Entres
Edited by: Jin Entres on 08/08/2006 12:28:38
I'm getting the skills within a week, and was planning on something of this sort (assuming it fits):
5 Heavy Neutron Blaster II (w/ Null)
2 Gang Mods
1 Warp Disruptor
1-2 Invulnerability Field II
0-1 Photon Scattering Field II
3 Large Shield Extender II
1 Internal DCU
2-3 Mag Stab II
0-1 PDS II
The range with CS IV is, if I recall correctly, about 17km optimal so I flat out drop propulsion and web. Granted frigs at close range are not easy to hit, but light drones are there for them. In mids I'm going full-out passive since guns use cap and I'll save a slot for not having to use an injector. The disruptor is of course mandatory.
In lows obviously DCU for general nberness and 2-3 damage mods, depending on if it all fits without a PDS II (tbh I don't know if it fits with just one either) and if the pilot prefers damage or tanking. I'll have to try which suits me better, but I'm guessing the damage.
17k optimal?
wow, thats one hell of a setup lol, very nice. Especially considering the lowprice of the vulture. You even got to cram some gangmods on it.
Didnt espect you to crosstrain into caldari though
Wow that's an old post. Unfortunately my calculations were wrong (or maybe the other bonus is just not working) and the optimal is 12 km. Right now I'm running a setup like this on it (I've switched the damage mod to another SPR, though which drops the recharge to 588 sec).
Actually when I started out I flew caldari. I trained up to BS first before returning my righteous gallentean path. Later on I've been patching my caldari skills and now I have frig V, cruiser V, bs IV and t2 heavy missiles so that I can pretty much fly anything t2 of either races efficiently (nighthawk ftw!)
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MECHcore
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.01 18:05:00 -
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The setup ive been playing with recently is:
HI:
-2x med dim nos
-5x med ion blasters T2
MED:
-1x XL shieldbooster T2
-1x invul field T2
-1x med electro cap injector (with 400 charges)
-1x 10mn ab T2
-1x fleeting web
-1x 20km fleeting scrambler
LOW:
-1x mag field stab T2
-2x PDU T2
-1x true sansha PDU
Rigs:
- hybride damage rig
- em resistance rig
Drones:
-5x warriors T2
Note: when i will have my hybride rig skill at a higher lvl i will probably be able to drop the true sansha pdu for a T2 one.
This fit gives a nice tank , decent dps and propulsion with web and scramble , good to use with small squads , mostly i fit null ammo , but when im close enough i switch to void offcorse 
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.02.02 22:04:00 -
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Well - ive been experimenting...
Ive been following yours Mech as you know, rather closely.
However, ive altered mine a bit. I find tracking can be a problem.
5 ion blaster II, 2 med diminishing nos.
1 AB II, 1 Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster, 1 Shield Boost Amp II/Fleeting Web, 1 medium electrochem cap injector, Invuln II, Scrambler.
3 pdu II, 1 mag stab
Rigs: EM resist, Shield Boost Cycle reduction one.
This is the ultimate pirate one. Can tank sentrys for a good while, and a BS ontop. The damage is pretty nice too.
Range of 16km with null.
Not bad eh? ^^
oh ps - 5 light ecm drones :P
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Hans Angry
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Posted - 2007.03.06 02:58:00 -
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(Tanking)
High:
4x Heavy Missile Launcher II
3x Gang mods
Medium:
2x Magnetic Scattering Amp II
4x Large Shield Extender II
Low:
4x Shield Power Relay II
Rigs:
2x Core Defence Field Purger I
(Sniping)
High:
5x 250mm Railgun II (Spike Ammo)
2x Gang Mods
Medium:
3x Sensor Booster II
3x Tracking Computer II
Low:
2x Tracking Enhancer II
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
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Spaced Skunk
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 23/06/2006 13:59:22
Shield power relay II isnt ingame afaik. Only the mid slot version.
EDIT: Forgot the "II"
It is in game through invention, seen some on market before, however was costing like 100M for one so not worth it, anyway...Vulture obviously has 2 range bonuses to hybrids, however powergrid is very limited when using 3 gang modules, to the point where using missiles becomes the only option.
Now I dont fly this ship, so I had a go on quickfit, I presume you want to fit rails, as you asked about so I made a fit using rails, 3 gang mods, nice ammount of shield and 150KM ish range, with 150KMish lock range. So this setup is if you want to be involved in the fleet pew pew.
So;
3 X Gang Mods
4 X 250mm Railgun II
1 X Invul Field II/Named
1 X Photon Scattering II
2 X Large Shield Extender II
1 X Sensor Booster II
1 X Tracking Computer II
4 X PDU II/Type-d
Its an OK setup I think..dps isnt much, but its got the range needed for fleet pvp if thats what your wanting it for.
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Kalek Astroth
Amarr
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:47:00 -
[42]
Even if im far away from flying a vulture (im an amarr/gallente cbc pilot) i wonder
why many of the posted setup dont have a mwd
if you wana use vulture as a blaster platform , you need a mwd for sure to get in
range and start shooting
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mmm cheese
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Posted - 2007.03.07 06:37:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kalek Astroth
Even if im far away from flying a vulture (im an amarr/gallente cbc pilot) i wonder
why many of the posted setup dont have a mwd
if you wana use vulture as a blaster platform , you need a mwd for sure to get in
range and start shooting
Depends I can hit well at 18km with my Tech 2 Neutrons with Null
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SauronTheMage
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.08 00:41:00 -
[44]
Heh, bad hans.
That's the last time I give out my ship tanking setup :)
Well since this insane tank setup is now out in the open, what is the multiplier on the regen at 30%? (I heard 2.4?)
If that is the case, then this 100% passive setup gives me 250 hp / sec regen.... 300-350+ with a couple tweaks I have done to my setup (still passive).
My nighthawk is almost as nasty, fully loaded with T2 hams. :)
Originally by: Hans Angry
(Tanking)
High:
4x Heavy Missile Launcher II
3x Gang mods
Medium:
2x Magnetic Scattering Amp II
4x Large Shield Extender II
Low:
4x Shield Power Relay II
Rigs:
2x Core Defence Field Purger I
(Sniping)
High:
5x 250mm Railgun II (Spike Ammo)
2x Gang Mods
Medium:
3x Sensor Booster II
3x Tracking Computer II
Low:
2x Tracking Enhancer II
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
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Siklone
The Arrow Project
The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:51:00 -
[45]
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [ 145 | 24] Heavy Ion Blaster II
- [ 145 | 24] Heavy Ion Blaster II
- [ 145 | 24] Heavy Ion Blaster II
- [ 145 | 24] Heavy Ion Blaster II
- [ 145 | 24] Heavy Ion Blaster II
- [ 200 | 25] Medium Nosferatu II
- [ 200 | 25] Medium Nosferatu II
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 150 | 25] Medium F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost [Cap Booster 400]
- [ 1 | 34] J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I
- [ 1 | 21] X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
- [ 0 | 55] Shield Boost Amplifier II
- [ 550 | 230] X-Large Shield Booster II
- [ 0 | 44] Photon Scattering Field II
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 30] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
- [ 0 | 16] Power Diagnostic System II
- [ 0 | 16] Power Diagnostic System II
- [ 0 | 16] Power Diagnostic System II
Can drop web/scram/injector and replace with an AB and Invuln II... but I like the "oh sh**" factor when you get webbed and scrammed. Flies like a bathtub, but then again, it's Caldari...
Pretty mean tank, not sure of the DPS. Might drop the web and use a heavy web drone.
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SauronTheMage
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:15:00 -
[46]
I have been thinking of actually training up some gun skills (instead of just missiles) but am not sure if it is worth using guns on the vulture vs missiles (switch between heavy T2 and HAM T2 currently)
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Talos Darkhart
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Posted - 2007.03.12 01:47:00 -
[47]
Hi
5x T2 250mm Rails
1x T2 Med Nos
1x Salvager/T2 Rocket launcher
Mids
2x T2 Large Sheild Extenders
2x T2 Sensor Boosters
2x T2 Tracking boosters
Lows
2x T2 Tracking Enhancers
2x T2 Mag Stabs
12k+ Sheilds
238km Range
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SauronTheMage
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.12 02:06:00 -
[48]
Interesting. How effective are your guns for hitting something 240km out (dmg amount and misses). I could possibly consider training up guns for this. Is there still enough cpu/pg for any gang mods?
Originally by: Talos Darkhart
Hi
5x T2 250mm Rails
1x T2 Med Nos
1x Salvager/T2 Rocket launcher
Mids
2x T2 Large Sheild Extenders
2x T2 Sensor Boosters
2x T2 Tracking boosters
Lows
2x T2 Tracking Enhancers
2x T2 Mag Stabs
12k+ Sheilds
238km Range
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Talos Darkhart
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:47:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Talos Darkhart on 12/03/2007 03:46:00
Hi yep you can fit 1 gang mod but need to drop the Nos
as for dmg and stuff puts out a reasonable amount of dmg and very rarely misses on anything over than nano/snakeset/insert over faction speed boosting mods here setups.
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SauronTheMage
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:57:00 -
[50]
Cool. So probably 2 volleys to take out a cepter / frig or... also what is the ROF on the guns?
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Talos Darkhart
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:48:00 -
[51]
ROF is dependant on your skills but around 3 secs and hmmm yeah should be able to 2 volly most t1 frigs.
Ceptors depends on the pilot I had a nice obliging noob mwd directly at me in a crow POP in 2 and a half vollys.
Sadly not all hostiles are that helpfull so can take a few shots.
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Hans Angry
Caldari
FM Corp
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.03.31 08:13:00 -
[52]
Originally by: SauronTheMage
Heh, bad hans.
That's the last time I give out my ship tanking setup :)
Well since this insane tank setup is now out in the open, what is the multiplier on the regen at 30%? (I heard 2.4?)
If that is the case, then this 100% passive setup gives me 250 hp / sec regen.... 300-350+ with a couple tweaks I have done to my setup (still passive).
My nighthawk is almost as nasty, fully loaded with T2 hams. :)
Originally by: Hans Angry
(Tanking)
High:
4x Heavy Missile Launcher II
3x Gang mods
Medium:
2x Magnetic Scattering Amp II
4x Large Shield Extender II
Low:
4x Shield Power Relay II
Rigs:
2x Core Defence Field Purger I
(Sniping)
High:
5x 250mm Railgun II (Spike Ammo)
2x Gang Mods
Medium:
3x Sensor Booster II
3x Tracking Computer II
Low:
2x Tracking Enhancer II
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
poppy***** sauron! you stoll the setup from me... you know it! :P
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Altrex Stoppel
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.31 11:11:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar
Originally by: Hellspawn01
Shield power relay isnt ingame afaik. Only the mid slot version.
Shield Power Relay I is ingame
Shield Power Relay II isnt ingame
and I typed Shield Power Relay I not the T2 version which many do and get flamed
Uuhhhm pretty positive theyve been invented.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.31 11:26:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Altrex Stoppel
Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar
Originally by: Hellspawn01
Shield power relay isnt ingame afaik. Only the mid slot version.
Shield Power Relay I is ingame
Shield Power Relay II isnt ingame
and I typed Shield Power Relay I not the T2 version which many do and get flamed
Uuhhhm pretty positive theyve been invented.
...Check when that was mentioned...back then they WERENT in game. 
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kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:51:00 -
[55]
Edited by: kill0rbunny on 18/04/2007 14:48:07
Just Quickfitted around a bit, but I like the numbers a lot.
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Efficiency
200mm Railgun II [80xJavelin M]
200mm Railgun II [80xJavelin M]
200mm Railgun II [80xJavelin M]
200mm Railgun II [80xJavelin M]
200mm Railgun II [80xJavelin M]
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Rigs : Core Defence Field Purger I \ Core Defence Field Purger I \
Hobgoblin II
Hobgoblin II
Hobgoblin II
Hobgoblin II
Hobgoblin II
21260 shield, 115.64/s, E/T/K/Ex=75/89/84/78
4203 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/86/62/10
4167.449432230022 cap, +26.66/s, -24.533/s
151.0 m/s
180.1 DPS
Pew Pew!
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EvilTwin I
Faderhuset
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Posted - 2007.05.22 01:43:00 -
[56]
OMG !
only 1 of You is sorta right  |
Ioune
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Posted - 2007.05.23 13:38:00 -
[57]
Then enlighten us please.
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Chisi
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Posted - 2007.05.25 17:20:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Chisi on 25/05/2007 17:20:04
Well.....we're ALL waiting EvilTwin!
I can't even fly the things but I am curious.
P.S. What would be a good Level 4 mission setup?
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Torian Lorik
Jonosha Corp.
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Posted - 2007.05.25 17:42:00 -
[59]
To those who said that the Vulture's resists are naturally high...that's true, except for EM damage. With BC 5 as base, it's still 25%. Anything hitting you with lasers, EM missiles, etc., is going to hurt.
The EM passive (or better yet, active) hardener is pretty much necessary.
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isk beggar
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Posted - 2007.05.25 17:48:00 -
[60]
Marcus, you'll probably benefit more from some resists, or at least a single shield recharge module, 5 LSE with barely any recharge or resists is not a good idea imo.
Might as well leave it safespotted somewhere. And consider extra rigs for a better passive tank if you do play gang-support.
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