Be sure to refine all my ore and loot. Trying to get things researched before the cost goes up.

Get a bigger monitor to handle the size of the new Industry window.

You should keep your ore it will be worth alot more after patch.

1. Sold my excess POS fuel.
2. Cleared-out all my materials.
3. Stopped manufacturing.
4. Researching all BPO to at least ML 10 / PL 10.


Not sure if I will be keeping my towers (I currently own 3).

You know I got mine to 11/21 because I'm not sure how the rounding will work. Will 10 be 99.9999% and hence level 4? There are 20 PL levels on SiSi, does that mean you research up to 20 here? Or 21 if you're worried about rounding?

I don't know the answers to this. I've probably wasted a lot of POS time .

Each PL on SiSi gives 2%, so a +20% PL BP is still a PL 10 BP. I confirmed this when I logged onto SiSi and checked some of my previously PL 10 BPOs that were now PL +20%. Anything beyond PL 10 or ML 10 will revert to 10 when the patch goes live. Yes, you'll have lost some time (possibly a lot of time) researching, but instead of being close to maxed, you will be maxed. If you're new-ish to research and industry like me, this is great; I knew in advance not to do any research beyond 10.

(Sorry for the alphabet soup.)

You know I got mine to 11/21 because I'm not sure how the rounding will work. Will 10 be 99.9999% and hence level 4? There are 20 PL levels on SiSi, does that mean you research up to 20 here? Or 21 if you're worried about rounding?

I don't know the answers to this. I've probably wasted a lot of POS time .

You should keep your ore it will be worth alot more after patch.

Ah. I use the ore I mine, but what about Ice? I've been refining it before transporting to a hub.

Also, what about BPO's that are perfect at ME ~2? Will they require additional ME research to 10 with Crius?

I will see how bad CCP "butchers" the blue prints compared to the levels I had them prior to this patch. Then I will see how much it will cost to manufacture the same items using their new formulas. Then I will see that if this patch basically reduced everyone being individuals to everyone being cookie cutters with the same prints at the same costs. Then I can use the subscription money on other wasted pursuits.

Not to be too negative, but I am not too comfortable with these changes.

I'm thinking the whole T2 market is gonna become like the whole T1 ammo market.

Vast amounts of noobs selling everything at cost.

Lifting standings reqs for pos's, removing the need for 1000's of copies, what
real barriers are there now for anyone to start cranking out mass T2 gear?

Everything is gonna become like T2 ships... why bother.

I'm thinking the whole T2 market is gonna become like the whole T1 ammo market.

Vast amounts of noobs selling everything at cost.

Lifting standings reqs for pos's, removing the need for 1000's of copies, what
real barriers are there now for anyone to start cranking out mass T2 gear?

Everything is gonna become like T2 ships... why bother.

I will see how bad CCP "butchers" the blue prints compared to the levels I had them prior to this patch. Then I will see how much it will cost to manufacture the same items using their new formulas.

This past weekend I looked at some T2 BPC, and noted an 18% increase in materials on some.

I didn't bother to look at the added line costs after discovering this.

I'm thinking the whole T2 market is gonna become like the whole T1 ammo market.

Vast amounts of noobs selling everything at cost.

Lifting standings reqs for pos's, removing the need for 1000's of copies, what
real barriers are there now for anyone to start cranking out mass T2 gear?

Everything is gonna become like T2 ships... why bother.

Someone didn't bother looking at the ME.

And my personal favourite:

... waiting to see what we *HAVEN'T* been told about, and how the community will react.

Maybe POS will suffer another "hush, hush, only the cool kids know this secret" type exploit like we had a number of years ago with the reactor scandal.

I mean, Sweet Geebus... something has to blow up in our faces without warning... this is EVE ! ! ! !

You mean like CCP deciding to remove the install bonus for multiple modules because they couldn't balance it right and only posting about it on the Test Server Feedback forums?

I had my first long-term POS staged and ready to go on July 22. Now I think it's going to sit in a hangar somewhere because all of the "little things" CCP has rolled back with the starbase changes make it considerably less worth it to me. We'll see. Maybe I'll put it up anyways just to be stubborn.

Well then... that changes things significantly.

At this point preparations of any sort are speculative until we know exactly what is, and what is not, going into Crius. I guess my preparations will include waiting for a dev blog that will lay it all out and then try to plan accordingly.

OMFG thanks for pointing this out. I hadn't heard about it yet

Let's just say i bought and researched a lot of 10/10 BPOs

Still trying to work out what this will mean for miners, currently bought a small tower ready to place a refinery or compression array. Also with the current "H" ores being best, have been looking at lowsec systems to mine in, but still nothing that seems worth it on the risk/reward scale.

The biggest change will be less demand for T1 BPCs, ... .

I'm just tired off devs waffling on timeline and features along with lack of clarity on how things will work. Indy players talk in the same language which is called spreadsheets so why can't they just use that as a medium to explain how the features will work.

We can then easily tell them the pros and cons as we work the models looking for profit.