Actually there isn't a 'docking location'. You can dock anywhere you're at zero (possibly a bit more, 500m or so) of the docking range, which is a big sphere extending far beyond the visual station model.

As for undocks, I think chokepoints are good for the game.

The docking locations would be warp to docking locations that you could warp to.

The docking locations would be warp to docking locations that you could warp to.

chokepoints are only good for the lazy gankers who sit outside of a station and gank ships calling it PvP.

And multiple undocks only for the lazy carebears unwilling to fight a single guy on the undock to get away.

On a more serious note: Having multiple undocks show up as warpable object on overview is liable to clutter up the overview in a hell of a hurry.

And the station models are made so that exiting the station shows at least a visually sensible exit location. Are you proposing that they reskin all the stations, clutter up the overview, and add a new feature, just so that carebears can escape from a camped station in something other than a pod easier, without even making an instawarp BM?

This is usually something I refrain from, because everyone has their own legit playstyles, but bro, you need to HTFU and deal with it.

The warp to dock points would not show up on the overview so your case is not relevant as CCP can code the docking locations as not being able to warp to from using the Overview.

I'm not the one crying or being a Cry-Bear because you are being made to actually work and think for a kill even if it is a gank.

He means a beacon instead of a bubble the size of 70km diameter.

+1 for more undock options, just add them to the station NeoCom.

Not sure I want specific dock points, since one warp to per station is enough and practically warping through the station to turn around and dock doesnt make much visual sense either. So no to dock points.

OP: PvPers would like you to lose your stuff in the minimal amount of effort to them.

If you make it harder for them, or even think about ways to make it harder for them, they will spout the standard issue 'entitled carebear' thing.


Trust me I know! - been there got the t-shirt.

To make a "good" suggestion on the suggestions and ideas forum, you have to think of ways to make carebears lives more difficult, and, suggest more ways to grief players trying to play the game the way they like to play it - after all, it's a PvP game, and we need more ways ro ram-force pvp in the faces of players that would otherwise prefer to take flight.

You wouldn't warp through the station because its magical box collider would bounce you across the solar system much the same way that you are bounced to an extreme velocity when you come into contact with a roid magical collider box.

If the selected docking location is on the opposite side of where you are warping from then the warp drive computer would adjust mid flight and make the necessary course correction.

OP: PvPers would like you to lose your stuff in the minimal amount of effort to them.

If you make it harder for them, or even think about ways to make it harder for them, they will spout the standard issue 'entitled carebear' thing.


Trust me I know! - been there got the t-shirt.

To make a "good" suggestion on the suggestions and ideas forum, you have to think of ways to make carebears lives more difficult, and, suggest more ways to grief players trying to play the game the way they like to play it - after all, it's a PvP game, and we need more ways ro ram-force pvp in the faces of players that would otherwise prefer to take flight.

You wouldn't warp through the station because its magical box collider would bounce you across the solar system much the same way that you are bounced to an extreme velocity when you come into contact with a roid magical collider box.

All of this... Everything in this post, exists...

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Multiple undocks mean nothing. You'll still be within range of any ganker who chooses to sit in the middle of them. Stations aren't that big.

Well I tend to disagree, since you exit at full speed and even though you might be close in km range you might still be on the opposite site of the station model box and can't move through. So I will say it does make a difference.

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The only model creation that would be involved is extruding a certain point on the station and then texturing the new location.

As for adding the code to the undocking mechanics it would just as simple as copying the undocking script from the current undocking script and then paste it into the new undocking location.

I have messed around with modeling, texturing and scripting so I know that I am correct.

The main reason is keep a station from being congested as well as making station campers work for their kill especially the high sector gankers.

High Sector gankers have created the problem of station congestion and when a fix comes along they CRYYYYY because they have to learn to do something new.

High Sector Gankers because all you can do is flame and

1: Highsec station congestion is a non problem. Only on a few stations are there enough people undicked near the exi to make an issue. And even the worst congested station of jita 4-4 is no more than a tiny inconvenience, and not even that for those of us who have insta-undocks.

And multiple undocks only for the lazy carebears unwilling to fight a single guy on the undock to get away.

And the station models are made so that exiting the station shows at least a visually sensible exit location. Are you proposing that they reskin all the stations, clutter up the overview, and add a new feature, just so that carebears can escape from a camped station in something other than a pod easier, without even making an instawarp BM?

I am also surprised that you are against more effort all around in EVE. Station campers these days just need to sit on station and can shoot or bubble to their heart's content. More undocks would make that activity a tiny little bit more complex and would require some thoughts on their side. At the same time it would also exact thoughts from the person wanting to undock, as s/he needs to find the best undock bay first.

I don't see any problems here, therefor.

In the most simple form, the proposal is to spend a massive amount of time implementing a system for the benefit of a very very tiny section of the eve population: Those who get camped into stations, are unwilling to fight, are unwilling to leave in just their pod, don't have friends, don't have insta-undock BM's, and are unwilling to swap to an alt to go make said insta-undock BM's.

OP: PvPers would like you to lose your stuff in the minimal amount of effort to them.

If you make it harder for them, or even think about ways to make it harder for them, they will spout the standard issue 'entitled carebear' thing.


Trust me I know! - been there got the t-shirt.

To make a "good" suggestion on the suggestions and ideas forum, you have to think of ways to make carebears lives more difficult, and, suggest more ways to grief players trying to play the game the way they like to play it - after all, it's a PvP game, and we need more ways ro ram-force pvp in the faces of players that would otherwise prefer to take flight.

Agree with this, the people who cry the hardest tend to be the griefers, I didn't know just about everything suggested would break the game.

High Sector gankers have created the problem of station congestion and when a fix comes along they CRYYYYY because they have to learn to do something new.