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Berlik 2 State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:26:00 - [1] - Quote i have a point to make, listen up kids this is a GAME! what is with the victimization of players?? sad, sad people. you know its only new players or weak players that are victims of code. you only can get new players and idiots as victims, basically players as stupid and lame as you are. good job. so elite. i mine each day in Emolgranlan, cannot be ganked or bumped. you have TRIED, and FAILED, because thats what you all are: FAILS. you just give up, because you know a player with more than 1 brain cell is better than a code agent. all you have left is smack talk in local, which proves you are just what I say. yes today i am trolled in local, yes this is the motivation for this post. i am still RIGHT sociopaths, jerks, and fails. not much else. one day the CODE will be no more, because all the bad players will be trolled out and only people who know wtf they are doing will be left. then what will you children have to keep you entertained? i repeat so you realize how bad you are: can only get new players and fails. so much to be proud of!
Paranoid Loyd 796	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:00:00 - [2] - Quote How come no one ever writes closed letters? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
Jessica Duranin Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 97	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:06:00 - [3] - Quote Berlik 2 wrote: one day the CODE will be no more, because all the bad players will be trolled out and only people who know wtf they are doing will be left. Doubtful. This game is over 10 years old and still there are stupid people everywhere.
Leto Thule Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck 820	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:18:00 - [4] - Quote Oh look, another one. Killboard https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space
Ria Nieyli 11579	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:26:00 - [5] - Quote So, in your own words, CODE. victimizes miners, calling them bots and whatnot. Then you proceed to dub the entirety of CODE. braindead failures. Don't you think that they have feeling too? Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet. - Ancient Chinese Proverb
Damon Messer Order Of the Phoenix Society Spaceship Samurai 26	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:28:00 - [6] - Quote yes, and giving them more tears will kill them quicker. no, wait, that's a great idea, drown them in tears!
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 19482	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:41:00 - [7] - Quote Berlik 2 wrote: stuff FTFY Obligatory popcorn Nil mortifi sine lucre
Boom Boom Longtime EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains. 742	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:14:00 - [8] - Quote I pity people like the OP who confirm this is a game yet seem unable to seperate fantasy from reality in their own cognitive thought process when spouting words on the internet. Concord Approved Trader
Amyclas Amatin Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 310	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:25:00 - [9] - Quote Damon Messer wrote: yes, and giving them more tears will kill them quicker. no, wait, that's a great idea, drown them in tears! Help! Can't breathe... she's going down. We're taking in tears faster than we can pump it out! For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today.
IIshira School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 984	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:25:00 - [10] - Quote Berlik 2 wrote: i have a point to make, listen up kids this is a GAME! what is with the victimization of players?? sad, sad people. you know its only new players or weak players that are victims of code. you only can get new players and idiots as victims, basically players as stupid and lame as you are. good job. so elite. i mine each day in Emolgranlan, cannot be ganked or bumped. you have TRIED, and FAILED, because thats what you all are: FAILS. you just give up, because you know a player with more than 1 brain cell is better than a code agent. all you have left is smack talk in local, which proves you are just what I say. i will save you all the trouble... yes, today i have a bad experience with CODE in local... yes this is the motivation for this post. i am still RIGHT sociopaths, jerks, and fails. not much else. one day the CODE will be no more, because all the bad players will be trolled out and only people who know wtf they are doing will be left. then what will you children have to keep you entertained? i repeat so you realize how bad you are: can only get new players and fails. so much to be proud of! By posting threads like this you're only helping CODE... They survive by getting their name out. This is in every game and in RL... It's not going to change. Maybe they're weak in RL so they need to feel power somehow. Playing a video game doesn't require physical strength so it's less likely someone will dunk their head in a toilet. Would you rather them take out their aggression in a game or snap in RL??
loyalanon The Conference Elite CODE. 341	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:31:00 - [11] - Quote https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/stats/ 882bil worth of noobs last month cant be all that bad
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 225	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:34:00 - [12] - Quote OP: I don't see how they're failing if they're actually having fun playing the game... the game that focuses heavily on players blowing other players up. Mining isn't fun, mining is work... at best I've heard it called 'relaxing', I call it 'soul-crushing boredom'. Just a suggestion, before pointing that 'fail' stick you might want to check to see which end is the business end. You might also want to refrain from calling people who pvp in a pvp game sociopaths... most of the pvp'ers I've met were actually quite friendly and helpful folks; people who learn from their losses and usually offer helpful advice to those they defeat.
Haedonism Bot Revolutionary Front 1341	Posted - 2014.07.04 01:16:00 - [13] - Quote Another open letter! I bet the last one is still open - let's dig it up and give it a bump, eh? www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com Psychotic Monk for CSM9
412nv Yaken The Conference Elite CODE. 127	Posted - 2014.07.04 01:31:00 - [14] - Quote Code hate best hate A True Champion of High Security Space
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.07.04 01:37:00 - [15] - Quote Amyclas Amatin wrote: Damon Messer wrote: yes, and giving them more tears will kill them quicker. no, wait, that's a great idea, drown them in tears! Help! Can't breathe... she's going down. We're taking in tears faster than we can pump it out! ... start drinking!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later
NotTheSmartestCookie New Order Logistics CODE. 29	Posted - 2014.07.04 06:24:00 - [16] - Quote Yay, this thread is about us.
Don Purple Caldari State 264	Posted - 2014.07.04 07:15:00 - [17] - Quote Code hate is delicious. I am just here to snuggle.
Don Purple Caldari State 264	Posted - 2014.07.04 07:17:00 - [18] - Quote Ya know op -------- just might make more people look. I am just here to snuggle.
NotTheSmartestCookie New Order Logistics CODE. 29	Posted - 2014.07.04 07:24:00 - [19] - Quote Looks like the OP woke up from his drunken stupor. However, you never know who is in control of the memory hole: http://eve-search.com/thread/356297-1
Teh Dominator House of Praetor Fidelas Constans 0	Posted - 2014.07.04 07:59:00 - [20] - Quote loyalanon wrote: https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/stats/ 882bil worth of noobs last month cant be all that bad That KB just shows you guys suck at pvp. Sure you can gank some afk or defenseless people, but when it comes to real pvp you suck.
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 3206	Posted - 2014.07.04 08:09:00 - [21] - Quote Threads like this remind me why I gank. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos
IIshira School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 984	Posted - 2014.07.04 12:29:00 - [22] - Quote Berlik 2 wrote: ----------- It looks like the OP edited his post to remove content. Just in case anyone forgot what it said you can look at my previous post where I quoted the OP
Kaea Astridsson Yggdrasil Woodchoppers Noir. Mercenary Group 80	Posted - 2014.07.04 13:08:00 - [23] - Quote Pity, I thought it was a C&P game of hangman.
IIshira School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 984	Posted - 2014.07.04 15:52:00 - [24] - Quote CODE be scared!... Really scared! JTClone's Speech Towards The CODE
Tyrone Arran The Forgotten Order 11	Posted - 2014.07.04 16:42:00 - [25] - Quote Teh Dominator wrote: loyalanon wrote: https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/stats/ 882bil worth of noobs last month cant be all that bad That KB just shows you guys suck at pvp. Sure you can gank some afk or defenseless people, but when it comes to real pvp you suck. Their goal is not 'real' pvp. It is to gank people. One could also say killing paper thin gank ships is not 'real' pvp either..
Tyrone Arran The Forgotten Order 11	Posted - 2014.07.04 16:48:00 - [26] - Quote IIshira wrote: CODE be scared!... Really scared! JTClone's Speech Towards The CODE Needs more monotone voice overs. Seriously how is anyone going to be inspired by some dude that talks without emotion.
Shederov Blood Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 1198	Posted - 2014.07.04 17:02:00 - [27] - Quote Teh Dominator wrote: Sure you can gank some afk or defenseless people, but when it comes to real pvp you suck. Today I saw a gank victim bragging to his aggressors about how great he was at "real pvp," so I looked him up to see what I could learn. I'm still a little confused. From what I found, "real pvp" is either killing frigates, haulers and cruisers in low-sec while outnumbering them 10 to 1 with much higher ship classes, or the noble art of solo-hunting rookie ships with a HAC.
IIshira School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 984	Posted - 2014.07.04 19:44:00 - [28] - Quote "Real PVP" is anything that causes one player to lose and another one to win. Ganking a mining barge is no less real PVP than killing someone that jumped into lowsec. If you mean "fair PVP"... Umm this is Eve. Most people want to win and they will do it at any cost. I don't know anyone that will let his ship go pop because he doesn't want to play unfair. "Yeah I could have killed him but that wouldn't have been fair or nice so I let him kill me."
Michele Bachmann Doughboys Overload Everything 78	Posted - 2014.07.04 20:17:00 - [29] - Quote IIshira wrote: CODE be scared!... Really scared! JTClone's Speech Towards The CODE Is this real life
Tengu Grib Simple Inc Simple Group 199	Posted - 2014.07.04 23:02:00 - [30] - Quote Berlik 2 wrote: one day the CODE will be no more, because all the bad players will be trolled out and only people who know wtf they are doing will be left. then what will you children have to keep you entertained? Code will be no more when there is no more need for Code. When the bot aspirants are no more and carebears do not satiate their greed with AFK activities, on that day, Code will be no more. Until that day, Code is here is to stay. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com
Subject 4927 Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2014.07.05 07:18:00 - [31] - Quote Guys what are you talking about he only posted lines. http://subjectandfriends.wordpress.com
Dun'Gal Myriad Contractors Inc. 137	Posted - 2014.07.05 07:30:00 - [32] - Quote Everyday I find myself wondering, are people REALLY getting this mad over pixels and shiptosting as a result, or is every one of the whiners really just alts of the so-called "perpetrators of injustice," trolling every one of us.
DJentropy Ovaert The Conference Elite CODE. 648	Posted - 2014.07.05 08:41:00 - [33] - Quote IIshira wrote: CODE be scared!... Really scared! JTClone's Speech Towards The CODE You missed the new one! https://soundcloud.com/mavericks4562514543/e-day Of course, a creative remix was in order :-) https://soundcloud.com/mr_seans/codes-e-day-salute-to-jtclone-ares
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 19497	Posted - 2014.07.05 11:21:00 - [34] - Quote DJentropy Ovaert wrote: You missed the new one! https://soundcloud.com/mavericks4562514543/e-day Of course, a creative remix was in order :-) https://soundcloud.com/mr_seans/codes-e-day-salute-to-jtclone-ares Still a better love story than Twilight Nil mortifi sine lucre
Dun'Gal Myriad Contractors Inc. 137	Posted - 2014.07.06 08:06:00 - [35] - Quote I'm so happy the op was quoted before he removed it.
De'Veldrin Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables 2475	Posted - 2014.07.07 17:52:00 - [36] - Quote Does anyone have an anti-CODE bingo card handy? The OP in this thread might win. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 119	Posted - 2014.07.07 18:12:00 - [37] - Quote Berlik 2 wrote: one day the CODE will be no more, because all the bad players will be trolled out and only people who know wtf they are doing will be left. What so may people fail to grasp is that CODE. is not a bunch of idiot pilots, sociopaths, rejects, or any of the other nasty things they get called. They're a group of PvP pilots who found a way within game mechanics to achieve near-perfect target selection. On top of this target selection, they add coordination, proper fits, and good tactics in order to achieve their goals. Considering that proper target selection is at least 75% of PvP, I'd say that, on average, they're actually better PvP'ers than most. Just because their target selection may not jive with you (or a fair number of vocal pilots) doesn't mean they're not good at it. They're also very accepting of new players, run open channels that are open to all (even their haters), provide logistical support to their members, etc. They're a well-organized shop, and I think a lot of the folks trying to counter them would learn a lot from emulating them in certain regards (just not target selection). (Side note: why haven't any anti-CODE. folks tried scouting out their logistics lines and ganking their haulers? Too hard, or too dishonorable?) Plus, having been with them on voice comms before, they seem to have a load of fun doing all of this. Isn't that what EvE is ultimately about? Having fun? They certainly have at least as much fun as drunken losec gatecamps do, and they actually get to blow up more stuff in the process. I'd say that the only thing they really lack is an abundance of drunken comedy fratricide killmails. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 19519	Posted - 2014.07.07 18:53:00 - [38] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: I'd say that the only thing they really lack is an abundance of drunken comedy fratricide killmails. Cue the surprise smartie Destroyer, just as the target hits 50% structure, let rip, kill everything..... Nil mortifi sine lucre
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 119	Posted - 2014.07.07 18:56:00 - [39] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: I'd say that the only thing they really lack is an abundance of drunken comedy fratricide killmails. Cue the surprise smartie Destroyer, just as the target hits 50% structure, let rip, kill everything..... I've actually suggested to them that they start dropping one gun for a smartbomb on their gank ships for fleet ops (i.e. freighter ganks) just so they can collect bounties off of each other. Considering that most of the bounties were likely placed there by folks they've ganked, it's just one more way for them to maximize the "tears" harvested. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.
Leto Thule Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck 824	Posted - 2014.07.07 19:15:00 - [40] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: I've actually suggested to them that they start dropping one gun for a smartbomb on their gank ships for fleet ops (i.e. freighter ganks) just so they can collect bounties off of each other. Considering that most of the bounties were likely placed there by folks they've ganked, it's just one more way for them to maximize the "tears" harvested. That is hilarious. Bounties now being used to fund the ships of the person you bountied. Killboard https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space
Soylent Jade New Order Logistics CODE. 125	Posted - 2014.07.07 20:05:00 - [41] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: I'd say that the only thing they really lack is an abundance of drunken comedy fratricide killmails. Cue the surprise smartie Destroyer, just as the target hits 50% structure, let rip, kill everything..... I've actually suggested to them that they start dropping one gun for a smartbomb on their gank ships for fleet ops (i.e. freighter ganks) just so they can collect bounties off of each other. Considering that most of the bounties were likely placed there by folks they've ganked, it's just one more way for them to maximize the "tears" harvested. I think in most cases, the smart bomb won't fit because of the CPU requirements, unless we drop a SEBO/ECCM/scram, but it might be worth considering. However, since in most cases our ships are only going to pay out about $2M in bounties per ship, it probably wouldn't be worth the DPS loss, or needing an extra ganker or two to make up for it. Of course, this would be the FC's call. Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time minerbumping.com
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 122	Posted - 2014.07.07 20:17:00 - [42] - Quote Soylent Jade wrote: I think in most cases, the smart bomb won't fit because of the CPU requirements, unless we drop a SEBO/ECCM/scram, but it might be worth considering. However, since in most cases our ships are only going to pay out about $2M in bounties per ship, it probably wouldn't be worth the DPS loss, or needing an extra ganker or two to make up for it. Of course, this would be the FC's call. From a purely tactical standpoint, you are correct, the drop in overall performance wouldn't likely be offset by the income gained. At the very least, it would certainly make more sense with if your fleet is running with some Brutix/Talos fits in the mix. However, EvE is not all about efficiency: Leto Thule wrote: That is hilarious. Bounties now being used to fund the ships of the person you bountied. Think of the PR opportunity here. It may be worth the loss of efficiency. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.
admiral root Red Galaxy 1382	Posted - 2014.07.07 21:25:00 - [43] - Quote Tyrone Arran wrote: Their goal is not 'real' pvp. You might want to look up what "PvP" means. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Tyrone Arran The Forgotten Order 13	Posted - 2014.07.08 13:56:00 - [44] - Quote admiral root wrote: Tyrone Arran wrote: Their goal is not 'real' pvp. You might want to look up what "PvP" means. You may want to look up what quotations are. Quotation marks can used around a single word or a group of words to indicate use of a borrowed word or phrase. Using this, I was referencing the person's meaning of 'real' pvp and stating that their goal is not what that person deems to be 'real' pvp. So please, if you are going to criticize anyone for what they think the meaning of pvp is, at least criticize the correct people..

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