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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Gatiep
Is it just me, or does it seem wrong to anyone else that a pirate (who is substantially rich) would fit ATLEAST 2 Warp core stabs on his force recon pilgrim? I mean, really, it is *understandable* to a certain extent that one wants to protect an investment on a expensive ship, but certainly not when a) the guy is rich enough to buy the thing many times over b) hes a pirate for crap's sake c) why would anyone fit WCS on an elite cruiser? why would a pirate gimp a great ship like that? I don't know, just seems wrong to me. For all I know he could've had 5 WCS in his lows...
your cry post seems wrong to me, but you dont see me posting on forums about it, do you?
ffs, ppl have the rights to fit whatever they like, if you dont like it, give me your stuff and bye bye
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Logi3
After the loss of my Tech II Cerberus with Gisti SB + AMP. Stabs sound like a good idea! ;)
Yeah. And i think using it on very expensive ships are fine, even encouraged.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:22:00 -
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stabs on hacs - go buy a t1 cruiser insteed..
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gatiep
Is it just me, or does it seem wrong to anyone else that a pirate (who is substantially rich) would fit ATLEAST 2 Warp core stabs on his force recon pilgrim? I mean, really, it is *understandable* to a certain extent that one wants to protect an investment on a expensive ship, but certainly not when a) the guy is rich enough to buy the thing many times over b) hes a pirate for crap's sake c) why would anyone fit WCS on an elite cruiser? why would a pirate gimp a great ship like that? I don't know, just seems wrong to me. For all I know he could've had 5 WCS in his lows...
WCS is going to get hammered soon so dont worry about it. They will have to decide to either be able to flee or to fight but not both.
THe pirate slaughter will be immense.
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Azirapheal
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:57:00 -
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just to voice my insignificant opinon.
yes - alot of people can afford ships multiple times over.
pirates in particular, unless they have an alt account (which i no longer do) may have difficulty/have to spend a large amount of time rebuying everything they just lost
just my 2p, damned i hate empire lovers
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
WCS is going to get hammered soon so dont worry about it. They will have to decide to either be able to flee or to fight but not both.
THe pirate slaughter will be immense.
Nope, but the blobbing will be.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Rells
WCS is going to get hammered soon so dont worry about it. They will have to decide to either be able to flee or to fight but not both.
THe pirate slaughter will be immense.
Nope, but the blobbing will be.
Blob is a word used by victims of fleets who think the game is unfair because they couldnt take out a whole fleet with one ship.
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Rells
WCS is going to get hammered soon so dont worry about it. They will have to decide to either be able to flee or to fight but not both.
THe pirate slaughter will be immense.
Nope, but the blobbing will be.
Blob is a word used by victims of fleets who think the game is unfair because they couldnt take out a whole fleet with one ship.
A blob is exactly that , a blob , safety in numbers , usually happens when people have no confidence in their own abilities they call in as many friends as they can because they fear losing their ships so much - form a blob , no or very little chance of losing a ship .
You may call it people who have friends but when it starts off as a couple of people that quickly turns into 10 and more I'd call that blob tactics . I mean if your on your lonesome how exactly are you a threat to an alliance/corp ? why would that warrant so many people to attack you ?
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Snodgey2004
A blob is exactly that , a blob , safety in numbers , usually happens when people have no confidence in their own abilities they call in as many friends as they can because they fear losing their ships so much - form a blob , no or very little chance of losing a ship .
You may call it people who have friends but when it starts off as a couple of people that quickly turns into 10 and more I'd call that blob tactics . I mean if your on your lonesome how exactly are you a threat to an alliance/corp ? why would that warrant so many people to attack you ?
PVP-BASIC classes and AGONY members gang together to fight all the time. That is why the gang mechanism is in the game. Its not so you can use your 2 buddies with HACs challenging 3 frigate pilots to a one on one and calling them names if they dont accept. A fleet is something to be feared and often people get ****ed when they get taken out by one. Instead they should be thinking about what they did wrong.
AGONY pilots get killed often or lose their ships often but that is because we take chances and do crazy things. On the 24th of june AGONY pilots and PVP-BASIC students engaged an Armageddon battleship and blew it up with 20 frigates (only 3 of them tech 2). Not that suprising but now consider the armageddon pilot had backup from 3 hacs, a Sabre interdictor, a couple of interceptors and 3 more BS. We plucked that single ship using fleet tactics and destroyed it right under the noses of the rest of their fleet while losing only three ships.
That is fleet warfare. If you cant handle it then that is your problem. So go cry me a river if you got killed by a "blob" but it was your own fault.
We follow the Art of War by Sun Tsu. We will fight you when WE want to and how WE want to. And if you assume your 2 friends will cause us to not engage, think again.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:46:00 -
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ok i read about the first 10 post and every1 was sayn stabs was fine
isint their like a 20 page flamefest about how every1 hates stabs in c&p somwhere
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UltraDragon
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
May be cruisers like Vagabonds got no better mods to fit into the low slots?
You are so wrong.
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Snodgey2004
A blob is exactly that , a blob , safety in numbers , usually happens when people have no confidence in their own abilities they call in as many friends as they can because they fear losing their ships so much - form a blob , no or very little chance of losing a ship .
You may call it people who have friends but when it starts off as a couple of people that quickly turns into 10 and more I'd call that blob tactics . I mean if your on your lonesome how exactly are you a threat to an alliance/corp ? why would that warrant so many people to attack you ?
PVP-BASIC classes and AGONY members gang together to fight all the time. That is why the gang mechanism is in the game. Its not so you can use your 2 buddies with HACs challenging 3 frigate pilots to a one on one and calling them names if they dont accept. A fleet is something to be feared and often people get ****ed when they get taken out by one. Instead they should be thinking about what they did wrong.
AGONY pilots get killed often or lose their ships often but that is because we take chances and do crazy things. On the 24th of june AGONY pilots and PVP-BASIC students engaged an Armageddon battleship and blew it up with 20 frigates (only 3 of them tech 2). Not that suprising but now consider the armageddon pilot had backup from 3 hacs, a Sabre interdictor, a couple of interceptors and 3 more BS. We plucked that single ship using fleet tactics and destroyed it right under the noses of the rest of their fleet while losing only three ships.
That is fleet warfare. If you cant handle it then that is your problem. So go cry me a river if you got killed by a "blob" but it was your own fault.
We follow the Art of War by Sun Tsu. We will fight you when WE want to and how WE want to. And if you assume your 2 friends will cause us to not engage, think again.
You seem to take my posts a bit personal , is only my opinion , as for fleets as you call them - I could care less , whenever a fleet shows up the easiest thing to do is go where they aren't , that means I fight on MY own terms not that of the defenders , then again why are we arguing about fleets and blobs when the thread is about WCS on elite ships ?
I've gave my opinion on the matter , perfectly ok if the person sees fit to fit them , annoying as hell when people just warp off at will , but I wouldn't gimp my own ship just to carch someone who has also gimped theirs with max WCS.
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2006.06.27 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Snodgey2004
A blob is exactly that , a blob , safety in numbers , usually happens when people have no confidence in their own abilities they call in as many friends as they can because they fear losing their ships so much - form a blob , no or very little chance of losing a ship .
You may call it people who have friends but when it starts off as a couple of people that quickly turns into 10 and more I'd call that blob tactics . I mean if your on your lonesome how exactly are you a threat to an alliance/corp ? why would that warrant so many people to attack you ?
PVP-BASIC classes and AGONY members gang together to fight all the time. That is why the gang mechanism is in the game. Its not so you can use your 2 buddies with HACs challenging 3 frigate pilots to a one on one and calling them names if they dont accept. A fleet is something to be feared and often people get ****ed when they get taken out by one. Instead they should be thinking about what they did wrong.
AGONY pilots get killed often or lose their ships often but that is because we take chances and do crazy things. On the 24th of june AGONY pilots and PVP-BASIC students engaged an Armageddon battleship and blew it up with 20 frigates (only 3 of them tech 2). Not that suprising but now consider the armageddon pilot had backup from 3 hacs, a Sabre interdictor, a couple of interceptors and 3 more BS. We plucked that single ship using fleet tactics and destroyed it right under the noses of the rest of their fleet while losing only three ships.
That is fleet warfare. If you cant handle it then that is your problem. So go cry me a river if you got killed by a "blob" but it was your own fault.
We follow the Art of War by Sun Tsu. We will fight you when WE want to and how WE want to. And if you assume your 2 friends will cause us to not engage, think again.
Please, is your corp recruiting?
You sound so incredibly cool!
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:26:00 -
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No shame in putting a pair of WCS on a 300-400 million ship. It's the cruiser/BC/AF pirates with them on that should hang their heads.
Besides, with diminshing returns on damage mods there really are few other mods to use shield-tanking ships. Don't tell me an extra 24km/s or a tiny bit of tracking compares with being able to exit from 90% of one on one fights.
Alot of the problems with WCS could be fixed by making low-slots worth more - add some new powerful PvP mods and fix the current low-slot mods that are crippled compaired to their med-slot equivilents - ECCM, tracking comps, signal boosters etc.
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goazer
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Posted - 2006.06.27 17:09:00 -
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yes there is shame on using wcs on an expensive ship, what ever happened too dont fly what you cant afford to lose. im used to it at this point tho.
i have also heard of a certain pirate in the aring area who uses wcs on his revelation lol
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Lojik
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Posted - 2006.06.27 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Oh and btw Deja, when you fly solo as meaning not be apart of a alliance to hold your hand. Then comment on it being stupid. Untill then, realize some people do fly solo and you only have so many ECM's per target. People do gank, including your faction. It's not to hard to understand that WCS's are a great defense.
LOL, you've abviously never been killed by Deja, i have seen Deja solo more often than not, actually i have never been killed by Deja from a gang fight, Deja is a very good solo pirate and you should respect your elders.
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ian666
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:56:00 -
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Pilgrim and 2x WCS ROLF, thats not going to last long, but then you should still be able to warp out.........
As for WCS in general, in a armor tanked ship they cause problems, but in a Shield tanked there over powered.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.03 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
That is fleet warfare. If you cant handle it then that is your problem. So go cry me a river if you got killed by a "blob" but it was your own fault.
We follow the Art of War by Sun Tsu. We will fight you when WE want to and how WE want to. And if you assume your 2 friends will cause us to not engage, think again.
I must say you sound very full of yourself here...there are alot of very good pvp'ers in this game. Bragging about blobbing a armageddon doesnt exacly make you sound like one, in my opinion. His gang probably ran off when they noticed the blob, and then you killed the ship. Nothing special and it happens every day in Eve.
You will get respect by winning when the odds are against you. Not when you cant possibly lose.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.07.03 18:01:00 -
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Drones do all the dmg so the old theroy 1 dmg mod for 1 stab does not apply.
Much like the vaga, after you fit 3 dmg mods what else do you put on there.
When people complain about stabs now it means their inty pilots suck or are nonexistant both of which mean those who complain about stabs really should say "our intys pilots suck nerf stabs" or "we dont know how to run a proper gang nerf stabs".
As far as the amount the isk one has being a reason to fit or not fit stabs is silly cause for me wasting 15 minutes to get another ship, getting to a station I can clone jump to another ship or taking the ego hit of having some crappy blobers kill you is much worse than losing isk.
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ching'sta
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Posted - 2006.07.03 19:12:00 -
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stabs are the easyest way out, ppl will always do whatever it takes to keep them selfs alive and thats a pitty, Stabs are for sissys and if you need them on a pilgrim your doing something really really wrong.
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