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Gatiep
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:05:00 -
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Is it just me, or does it seem wrong to anyone else that a pirate (who is substantially rich) would fit ATLEAST 2 Warp core stabs on his force recon pilgrim? I mean, really, it is *understandable* to a certain extent that one wants to protect an investment on a expensive ship, but certainly not when a) the guy is rich enough to buy the thing many times over b) hes a pirate for crap's sake c) why would anyone fit WCS on an elite cruiser? why would a pirate gimp a great ship like that? I don't know, just seems wrong to me. For all I know he could've had 5 WCS in his lows...
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Reash
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:09:00 -
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Personal choice really but that sounds like 1 poor pilgrim fitting tbh
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:10:00 -
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Why do you assume pirates are automatically rich?
Most pirates I know are almost perpetually poor...
Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs.
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Gatiep
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Krulla
Why do you assume pirates are automatically rich?
Most pirates I know are almost perpetually poor...
Why do you assume its an assumption? It's a fact, the guy owns a dread in the very same system (and who knows where he's hiding his others), he is the manager of a corp POS with 100+ members in it, and he's been playing since '04. Top ranking in the corp I'm sure, and it's got a substantial tax.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:17:00 -
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sounds like he is in the business of making money and making sure he loose as little as possible.
nothing wrong with using stabs sometimes, especially when living in a constatly hostile area and being in the money making business and not money loosing business.
maybe you should start doing like everyone else has to do, get enough scramblers to cover the targets lowslots+1.
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gatiep
Is it just me, or does it seem wrong to anyone else that a pirate (who is substantially rich) would fit ATLEAST 2 Warp core stabs on his force recon pilgrim?
The way this is written makes me believe he got away from you (and possibly your friends as well) when he was fighting a losing battle. And still you wonder why he fits stabs?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:00:00 -
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May be cruisers like Vagabonds got no better mods to fit into the low slots?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/06/2006 15:02:54
CCP will probably change the way WCS works/fits in the future. Probably just in time when ive skilled up for my Vagabond. But thats life. 
I see nothing wrong with people using them btw. Alot of people have warped out from fights they cant win, which is fine. I dont use them on ships worth less than 50 mill though.
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Gatiep
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
Originally by: Gatiep
Is it just me, or does it seem wrong to anyone else that a pirate (who is substantially rich) would fit ATLEAST 2 Warp core stabs on his force recon pilgrim?
The way this is written makes me believe he got away from you (and possibly your friends as well) when he was fighting a losing battle. And still you wonder why he fits stabs?
Aye, maybe so, but with the mentality that one should fit WCS just in case you find yourself in a losing battle means that everyone in low sec should always shove as many stabs as they can onto their ship. If you're not intending to PVP and find yourself in a losing battle then you would fit WCS, but even when you're a pirate intending to blow up whatever you find?
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:07:00 -
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As a pirate you might intend on blowing everything up you find , but what sometimes starts off as a easy/fair looking fight quickly turns into a trap , these are the situations where WCS become useful and was proved by the Pilgrim pirate you encountered ( unless you know he used 2 stabs by killing him ) .
I don't personally use stabs but it's a smart man who does use them.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
May be cruisers like Vagabonds got no better mods to fit into the low slots?
Sure they do. Speed, Tracking Enhancers (Enhances web + damage), ECCM (Maybe if they're fixed), Nanofibers, Damage Controls, and of course WCS.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Snodgey2004
I don't personally use stabs but it's a smart man who does use them.
An idiot uses stabs on a pilgrim.
I'm prepared to accept that people feel they need stabs, but need them on a ship that can warp cloaked.
wtf?
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Snodgey2004
I don't personally use stabs but it's a smart man who does use them.
An idiot uses stabs on a pilgrim.
I'm prepared to accept that people feel they need stabs, but need them on a ship that can warp cloaked.
wtf?
Oh and btw Deja, when you fly solo as meaning not be apart of a alliance to hold your hand. Then comment on it being stupid. Untill then, realize some people do fly solo and you only have so many ECM's per target. People do gank, including your faction. It's not to hard to understand that WCS's are a great defense.
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Snodgey2004
I don't personally use stabs but it's a smart man who does use them.
An idiot uses stabs on a pilgrim.
I'm prepared to accept that people feel they need stabs, but need them on a ship that can warp cloaked.
wtf?
What's your point? That the pilgrim can get away from gatecamps with warped cloaking?
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Snodgey2004
I don't personally use stabs but it's a smart man who does use them.
An idiot uses stabs on a pilgrim.
I'm prepared to accept that people feel they need stabs, but need them on a ship that can warp cloaked.
wtf?
I fly solo so can only speak from experience , I don't use stabs and so on occasions I be ripped to pieces purely because I'm warp scrambled with no way of getting out , in these same situations if I did use stabs I could easily get away - In my eyes that would make me a smarter pilot because I'm alive to fight another day - thats why people fit stabs .
As for idiots fitting them to Pilgrims , I couldn't possibly comment on that , I don't fly them , sure there was a reason to fit them ( maybe he is smart  )
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MinnieMarketer
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
What's your point? That the pilgrim can get away from gatecamps with warped cloaking?
Yes, ofc it can. How the hell do you lock a cloaked ship?
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MinnieMarketer
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Oh and btw Deja, when you fly solo as meaning not be apart of a alliance to hold your hand.
Been flying solo plenty lately, I'm fully qualified to speak on this part of the game thanks very much. (And we just joined the alliance)
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:38:00 -
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fecking alts
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Jex Jast
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
fecking alts
That your only response?
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jex Jast
Originally by: Deja Thoris
fecking alts
That your only response?
Now read the two posts above where I said that instead of just posting and not thinking.
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.06.25 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: MinnieMarketer
Originally by: James Snowscoran
What's your point? That the pilgrim can get away from gatecamps with warped cloaking?
Yes, ofc it can. How the hell do you lock a cloaked ship?
I know it can...it's not quite as foolproof as a covops because a skilled ceptor pilot (especially in a taranis or something else with drones) can sometimes still manage to bump it and lock it down before it can get out.
Maybe I need tobe clearer, I don't think the pilot is stabbing up the pilgrim to get away from gatecamps. I think he's doing it to get away from piracy attempts gone bad.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Snodgey2004
I don't personally use stabs but it's a smart man who does use them.
An idiot uses stabs on a pilgrim.
I'm prepared to accept that people feel they need stabs, but need them on a ship that can warp cloaked.
wtf?
It's obvious that you solo in a pilgrim a lot.  Pilgrim needs stabs for deep space piracy.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:50:00 -
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Stabs are a compromise.
They increase your chance of being in a losing battle (by mildly gimping your setup per stab) while giving you a chance of getting out of such a losing battle.
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Jacques Archambault
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:05:00 -
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Thread cleaned.
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Tobias Sjodin
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:06:00 -
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Wohoo! Another stab-thread, just what I needed when I'm almost half-asleep.
:)
This is the eternal debate, folks.
Why would I fit stabs on an (eg.) 220mil cruiser, with 100 mil worth of mods, that at most gives back 20mil from insurance?
*ponders*
I dunno.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:14:00 -
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All I have ot say is BULL about the rich part, you have no idea how poor some pirates are, I used ot be freaking poor once (27 mill in wallet, beat that, k?). Stabs are more commen than you think, especilly on more expensive ships, fir more scrams and problem is solved.
However Stabs are really *** and i think something should be done about them.
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Jex Jast
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Posted - 2006.06.26 00:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jex Jast on 26/06/2006 00:48:35
Originally by: Kaeten
All I have ot say is BULL about the rich part, you have no idea how poor some pirates are, I used ot be freaking poor once (27 mill in wallet, beat that, k?). Stabs are more commen than you think, especilly on more expensive ships, fir more scrams and problem is solved.
However Stabs are really *** and i think something should be done about them.
I can beat 27 mil for my whole career I've never been above 12 but that's not the point...
Stabs are a game mechanic. Deal with it everybody.
Oh and Kaeten, I hope you're 12 years old and don't know what you just said in your last sentence because if you're old enough to know what you did say, I would just as soon cripple you permanently if I met you irl as shake your hand.
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Gatiep
Originally by: Krulla
Why do you assume pirates are automatically rich?
Most pirates I know are almost perpetually poor...
Why do you assume its an assumption? It's a fact, the guy owns a dread in the very same system (and who knows where he's hiding his others), he is the manager of a corp POS with 100+ members in it, and he's been playing since '04. Top ranking in the corp I'm sure, and it's got a substantial tax.
So your tagging all pirates based on what 1 other pirate has?
Hardly a case for most pirates, the bulk of us dont have a POS or any of the above.
Way to go, quick lets punish all pirates...
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Stabs are a compromise.
They increase your chance of being in a losing battle (by mildly gimping your setup per stab) while giving you a chance of getting out of such a losing battle.
And at a guess, a losing battle for a pilgrim usually means being jammed, like with every other ship, random chance based jamming sucks, bring back the old system now the ECM mods have optimal+falloff added.
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Logi3
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:03:00 -
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After the loss of my Tech II Cerberus with Gisti SB + AMP. Stabs sound like a good idea! ;)
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