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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Rells on 25/06/2006 12:19:40 Agony Unleashed is a corporation that really cares about the newer players in this game. We are an honorable mercenary organization with an interest in newer players.
What has ticked us off lately is the rise of morons that are war decing guys in newbie mining player corps and so on. These people are usually organizations of experienced players that are interested in griefing the players brand new to the game with extortion or just for the heck of it. We believe these players should get the chance to get a start in the game and learn something rather than be griefed out of the game instantly.
For this reason I am announcing a program to put a stop to this in game.
Operation Phoenix will be a coalition of experienced PvP organizations that are willing to counter war dec the idiots who war dec newbie corps. We will investigate complaints of this nature and then implement a war dec against those organizations. If your corp wants to be part of Operation Phoenix (whether you are pirate or otherwise) please send an Evemail in game to get contact information for the coalition. This organization will be completely non-political. There will be no need to check politics in Operation Phoenix -- two corps or alliances perpetually at war may very well be in Operation Phoenix; this doesnt indicate peace between theese organizations but merely a desire to mutually kill some jerk organization. The goal of operation phoenix will be to get full covereage over the entire Eve galaxy so that no matter where the griefer is, they will not be able to hide. There will be no reason that two corps in Operation Phoenix cant fight -- this isnt a NAP, peace pact or anything like that.
Inside Operation Phoenix we will take complaints from new player corps. We will then investigate the issue and if the situation merits it, we will all war dec the offending corp. The exact nature of information we will need will be pretty comprehensive. We will check the full member list of the newer corp and the offending corp. Those that actually manage to fool us will risk getting us all decing on them to punish them for lies.
Operation Phoenix will not bother with organizations of blinkers like Snigg or Turby because they can be killed anywhere anyway. We are mainly out to tackle the growing problem of griefer war decs on new player organizations.
If you want your corporation or alliance to be in Operation Phoenix, please send an Eve Mail to Rells.
Happy Hunting!
-- Rells
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: dailyhazard Edited by: dailyhazard on 25/06/2006 12:24:53 wow i think im gonna start doing this again, just for free war decs but yeh gl and stuff
If this succeeds, such an action would result in you beign war deced by dozens of experienced pvp organizations and you wouldnt be able to breathe without encountering someone blinking. If you want to fight, 0.0 has plenty of it, or wardec a corp capable of fighting. A high school bully beating up on grade schoolers is cowardice.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/06/2006 12:38:39 Im afraid those griefers will run and stay docked when they face experienced pvp'ers. Even if you manage to take out a few, their loss is minor, specially if they are alts. I think this sort of thing will only give them the fireworks they are hoping for...
And arent most of these guys in npc corps that cant be wardeclared anyway?
They arent hoping for fireworks, they are hoping for easy kills and extortion. If they wanted fireworks, they would dec a corp that can fight back. If they stay docked or drop the war dec then the operation has succeeded. If not then experienced pvpers will be blinking to them all over the bloody place. If an operation member wishes to hunt them actively that is their business. We have the goal of having these palyers not be able to undock because all of the random people war decing them.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: CardboardSword42
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: dailyhazard Edited by: dailyhazard on 25/06/2006 12:24:53 wow i think im gonna start doing this again, just for free war decs but yeh gl and stuff
If this succeeds, such an action would result in you beign war deced by dozens of experienced pvp organizations and you wouldnt be able to breathe without encountering someone blinking. If you want to fight, 0.0 has plenty of it, or wardec a corp capable of fighting. A high school bully beating up on grade schoolers is cowardice.
I'm pretty sure he understands that and wants all the free war targets. Cosmic fusion are some of the best fighters in the game, and I think they would enjoy the blinky squares all over the place
If they want a lot of pvp there is plenty to be found in 0.0. There is no need to be war decing people 2 months into the game with a corp composed of 3 or 4 real life friends trying to learn why armageddons warp in sideways.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Favors4Isk Edited by: Favors4Isk on 26/06/2006 00:05:13 This plan comes from the same guy who scams billions from noobs to "teach" them how to PVP.
350 customers. 100% satisfaction. Dont ask us, ask them. We stand on our reputation.
As for my motives; they are the same as motives I would have for stoppign some 18 year old kid from beating up third graders. Simple disgust. The fact that there are people that see that as a business opportunity is worse. These new player corps dont have the money to hire mercs, heck many dont even know what a merc is. Griefing them doesnt help the game, doesnt prove you are a good pvper and only shows your cowardice.
It may not work. There may not be interest. But I wanted to try.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Rells on 26/06/2006 10:43:38
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This thread has degredated into something of a cesspool despite my best intentions. I love Eve and every time I see the people on this forum, my love for it decreases a little.
Its amazing how much refuse there is in real life. A famous psychologics once said "On the interent there are no social boundaries so people will be inclined to be, in the long run, exactly as they would be in real life if consequences were removed. It brings out the true person into the light of day."
Looking at this forum, that is a scary thought.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Dekiri I love your posts Rells they have so much potential =)
Irony detected. 
Never. Plus tbh I'd point out that it could go both ways (the attackers recruit other corps too).
But eh. We don't go after newbie corps. We go after alliances. And by THAT time, if you don't have a clue on how to fight...
And that I have no problem with at all.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
like some1 cares what you have and have not problem with
You sound disturbingly like Bachuss. Another alt for a bit of corp theft ?
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
like some1 cares what you have and have not problem with
You sound disturbingly like Bachuss. Another alt for a bit of corp theft ?
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Oh nothing really. Just parallels. There is a guy named Bachuss who does what you do -- namely talking smack in the forums and lieing his buns off about having taken our classes, knowing my grandmotehr and other random things. Im not sure either one of you are playing with all your thrusters operational. I just know you dont show your corp, I have never once seen you in game, you look and smell like an alt and so logical conclusions can be drawn.
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