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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Come on tell me u frapsed it and we will see a new RAT vid 
OFC we are ;) Send iskies to WRWR 
Awwwww , i was gonan send some exotic dancers also but i guess u guys are already beat after that kind work WRWR open ur wallet , INCOMING
Tbh i think this type of fights was deffinatly fun for both parties since too much ships were ganked in one big arena
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Ko3ak
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:08:00 -
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Just a little joke
Stack in space
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Pepster2
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:11:00 -
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Most definitely a fine example of fleet combat at its best (for us at least)  . It was an absolute pleasure to fight along side Rat, Stain Empire, and The Collective. I'm honored to have had the chance to work with such skilled pilots, you guys rock!
The target calling was superb. Evil Thug, you are my hero  . Also, much props to Ascn and Axe for bringing it, and when things went south for Axe, Ascn came to help their friends even though they knew they were warping into their own bubble camp. That took serious balls, even if it didn't work out for them, it took balls 
Its a prime example that numbers don't mean anything, its about skill, focus, and leadership. Ability always outweighs superior numbers.
One last thanks and I'll be quiet, Thanks to ccp for a fleet battle of epic proportions with little to no lag, that was one experience I won't soon forget. MMOG entertainment at its best!
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ALPHA12125
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:13:00 -
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6am fleet battles 4tl 
i am gonna get me some rl combat boosters so i can stay up for 24+ hours
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WRWR
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:14:00 -
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20gb raw fraps of all ASCN\AXE campaign ofcoz 4 dread kills too
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WRWR
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ko3ak
Just a little joke
Stack in space
rofleing
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Pepster2
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:18:00 -
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Arg, that overly thankful post was mine, didn't mean to post with an alt
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AzmoAlt
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:20:00 -
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Yes, i'm an idiot, pepster is me
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:20:00 -
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i missed it :(
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: AzmoAlt
Yes, i'm an idiot, pepster is me
are you drunk pepster ?
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AzmoAlt
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: BirdBleed
Originally by: AzmoAlt
Yes, i'm an idiot, pepster is me
are you drunk pepster ?
yes, and I give up
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
You mean like cheats, lag abuse ecc? No, there was none of that afaik.
If i`m not mistaken - GMs called back warring, they gave to COL pilots. Get your facts about exploiting straight. And stop seeking excuses. You are losing not because we are exploiting, but because skill of your commanders \ members is lower than ours.
kthxbye.
Thats quality, reading comprehension 4tw.
Other than lack of reading skills, good job.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:01:00 -
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Whatever else ASCN/AXE do, they absolutely have to get hold of some decent fleet commanders and some competent PvP corps, they're just an absolute joke when it comes to fleet combat and in the end it will cost them everything they have built.
Appalling really that such a large alliance is so utterly hopeless at PvP.
Must have been a turkey shoot for the RAT/SE etc guys.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Robb Kiver
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:01:00 -
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I am angered that I missed this battle, would have been great, but man did people get an ass whuppin'.
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Sae Marr
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Sae Marr on 25/06/2006 16:13:58
I came, I saw, I missed the fight 
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Whatever else ASCN/AXE do, they absolutely have to get hold of some decent fleet commanders and some competent PvP corps, they're just an absolute joke when it comes to fleet combat and in the end it will cost them everything they have built.
Appalling really that such a large alliance is so utterly hopeless at PvP.
Must have been a turkey shoot for the RAT/SE etc guys.
Partially true, not trying to seek excuses here (omg ET wait dont bite me nooo) but you should add to the list the problem of t2 long range ammo, which basically makes t1 snipers and jammers obsolete at ranges 150-200km, a fact that has a strong impact when a less experienced, lower sp fleet faces a fully t2 fleet.
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r3df4nG
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:31:00 -
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the knife has been sharpened seems like ASCN is taking some heat all the lands they haev are spearding them to wide even for thier own likeing...
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 25/06/2006 16:41:23
Originally by: Mr Happ
Edited by: Mr Happ on 25/06/2006 15:08:31
Originally by: WRWR
Originally by: Mr Happ
lol i think RAt got busted for ebaying and went on a rampage
hey, u wanna be next, u carebear
Oh im so scared, pls oh mummy don't do pvp against me, i just might cry, lol
I bet you are.
EDIT: oh and gratz RAT/COL/TOXIN/SE
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Partially true, not trying to seek excuses here (omg ET wait dont bite me nooo) but you should add to the list the problem of t2 long range ammo, which basically makes t1 snipers and jammers obsolete at ranges 150-200km, a fact that has a strong impact when a less experienced, lower sp fleet faces a fully t2 fleet.
I have to agree that T2 ammo and t2 large long range guns tend to be a very powerful combination, Huzzah faced ths when fighting BOB lately, our response is that were all training large long range turreted T2 guns, ten days for me and I've got T2 425s.
President
Huzzah Federation
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Hyllekjeks
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 25/06/2006 16:45:18
can we join the party? <--- joke!
Gl killing ascn, they drop good loot.
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:44:00 -
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It's all about brains and tactics, not about t2 ammo =\
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Ko3ak
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hyllekjeks
Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 25/06/2006 16:45:18
Gl killing ascn, they drop good loot.
Tech-1 loot is not very good
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Happ
lol i think RAt got busted for ebaying and went on a rampage
Retard.
Nice work RAT.. and whoever is tagging along with 'em.
ASCN/AXE have had there fleets wiped out by almost every PvP entity in this game. G/IRON, BOB and now RAT/friends.
They did destroy a mining alliance comprehensively though..
I think AXE/ASCN need to work on getting some fleet practise in. The numbers 9:1 odds in losses while having overwhelming advantage in numbers and carriers. It portrays a very sorry picture.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
It's all about brains and tactics, not about t2 ammo =\
Can you use t2 ammo?
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Riddari
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:08:00 -
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I am not official ASCN spokesman or whatever so treat that as disclaimer.
I was in the ASCN gang (as a grunt) that jumped into the friendly bubble camp with hostiles controlling it at range.
Huge tactical and planning errors were made in this operation.
That is all.
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
It's all about brains and tactics, not about t2 ammo =\
Can you use t2 ammo?
Can you use brain?
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Tess Orbita
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
It's all about brains and tactics, not about t2 ammo =\
Can you use t2 ammo?
Can you use brain?
Wait.. Red Alliance? Aren't you the guys that lost all your space because most of your pilots were too busy ratting or mining to defend it? Yea.. thought so.
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Malachon Draco
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wizie
I think AXE/ASCN need to work on getting some fleet practise in. The numbers 9:1 odds in losses while having overwhelming advantage in numbers and carriers. It portrays a very sorry picture.
Read Evil Thugs post, the engagement didnt happen until RAT had a distinctive advantage in numbers. And in my estimate, some of us will have been AFK after a 6 hour bubblecamp, making their advantage even bigger than the numbers suggest.
Mistakes were made here, but assuming from this engagement that ASCN is a walkover wouldn't be smart. When RAT jumped in on us in AZN, they got raped a few weeks ago.
RAT is making the best of the current situation, in every way imaginable... We are trying to find ways to break their defense, and we make mistakes in doing that and lose an engagement. Big deal.
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Robbie Boozecruise
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:26:00 -
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yes ASCN need some top notch FC's but the problem with tech 2 sniping ships is crazy atm.
you have 40 BS's sitting 220km off the gate and a tech 1 fleet jumps in none will be able to hit none will be able to jam its like shooting fish in a barrel. Also something i have found is people just plain not listening to FC's they bring ships which serve no purpose that are just extra ships to be shot.
somewhere along the lines ASCN has got to say "if you cant hit at 170km i have no use for you just go back and do some thing else" there is no point having ships in you fleet that cannot hit the other fleet.
The only way ASCN are going to get better fleets is by activly recruiting high skilled PVPers from other alliances or forcing members to train tech 2 guns. If you look at BOB and D2 they have very stong pvp based corps that yes will have tech 2 guns on all ships but if you look at ASCN you only have 1 or 2 corps that are pure PVP corps where members are pushed for tech 2 guns.
If ASCN would just put a gang together for just they pure PVPers then they would put up a strong fight but you would not be looking at the numbers fighting you normally have so ASCN faces the risk of being outblobed.
Its true that ASCn members could prob loose a ship every day for a mnth and it would not effect they assets alot but it is not good, you want to be winning every fight you go into. when fighting up north ASCN encourage cruisers due to the ceapness of replacing them, they should be putting HAC gangs together and saying if you cant fight in a hac and have a hac up ther stay donw and get youself a HAC then go and fight.
ASCN need everyoe to fight but taking on RAT and co with a bunch of miners and industrialists is not going to do anything for the image of the alliance. If the gate is bubbled they are 220 from the gate you havent got a chance why engage them, let them come and engage you, fight on your terms and not on their terms.
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PriceCheckMax
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Posted - 2006.06.25 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
It's all about brains and tactics, not about t2 ammo =\
ecm with BS level 4, and long distance jamming 4 on a scorp - 130km
BS with t1 longrange guns? Around 150-160km, lower dmg
VS
T2 Sniper ammo on a BS, 200km, higher dmg
Max skiled scorp 160km
Ones with t1, low-sp have no chance when the BSes warp in out of their optimal.
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