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Posted - 2003.09.29 05:12:00 - [1]

Fubie;

What have you been smoking? If you wish to leave, then do so. If the Stain Alliance has made you and offer, then why backstab the others here. There has been no acts of piracy committed, and I was at the meeting of all of the CEO's. Get you facts straight and cease your lying. You even besmirtch your own race. Like any lackey, you have been bought and paid for, now be quiet as people can see you for what you are. Run to Stain an lick some boots.

Sarkos - Oracle


Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.29 05:12:00 - [2]

Fubie;

What have you been smoking? If you wish to leave, then do so. If the Stain Alliance has made you and offer, then why backstab the others here. There has been no acts of piracy committed, and I was at the meeting of all of the CEO's. Get you facts straight and cease your lying. You even besmirtch your own race. Like any lackey, you have been bought and paid for, now be quiet as people can see you for what you are. Run to Stain an lick some boots.

Sarkos - Oracle


Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 - [3]

Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:46:39
Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:44:57
Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:42:51
Well, Oracle is not pirates, unless you wish to consider the freeing of slaves as piracy. If that's the case than any Minmatar freedom fighters are considered pirates. Coming from any Amarr or corporations supporting slavery, I would wear that moniker proudly.

In the past, the Red Corsairs did indeed comit normal acts of piracy, as well as fight against slavery. However, I personnaly acted as a moderator in a dispute between them and Knights of Minmatar Republic, a Minmatar freedom fighter corp. During these meetings, the Red Corsairs denounced thier role as pirates and fully commited themselves as freedom fighters. Since they are both part of the same alliance, I would say this is still in effect.

I post this to show you that 'pirate' has different meanings to different races, from a roleplaying point of view. To MASS and others that engage in slavery, any Minmatar freedom fighting group are pirates.

When Oracle moved into Curse, the SA had been engaging in many battles there already. MASS and The Collective mostly. We of course dedicated ourselves to help drive out these invaders. Then other Stain corps started to come in, and we started to find ourselves pressed for numbers.

When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing.

Stain has stated they attacked us for being pirates, even prior to Sinister being here. Who is the pirates? Not the Red Corsairs, unless you consider raiding into Stain to free our kin from your slave ships. No, expansion is thier motive. Take Curse and they then have more resources and a easy access to Immense Sea, more resources.

Now, the Curse Coalition claims acts of piracy from us against them. Show me proof. Just the other night, Fubie was in a meeting with Leyla and everything was fine and dandy. Now the backstab and accusations fly. If you had this problem, why not discuss it in the meeting Fubie?

While the Curse Alliance fights to keep all safe in Curse, including the many non-alligned corps there, never have I seen a Curse Coalition corp joining in to help defend. If you wish to leave Curse, then by al means do so, as all you do is mine the resources and add nothing constructive for your gains.

For those who know me, I do not lie and I keep to my honor. These are accurate facts as seen by myself.


Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 - [4]

Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:46:39
Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:44:57
Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:42:51
Well, Oracle is not pirates, unless you wish to consider the freeing of slaves as piracy. If that's the case than any Minmatar freedom fighters are considered pirates. Coming from any Amarr or corporations supporting slavery, I would wear that moniker proudly.

In the past, the Red Corsairs did indeed comit normal acts of piracy, as well as fight against slavery. However, I personnaly acted as a moderator in a dispute between them and Knights of Minmatar Republic, a Minmatar freedom fighter corp. During these meetings, the Red Corsairs denounced thier role as pirates and fully commited themselves as freedom fighters. Since they are both part of the same alliance, I would say this is still in effect.

I post this to show you that 'pirate' has different meanings to different races, from a roleplaying point of view. To MASS and others that engage in slavery, any Minmatar freedom fighting group are pirates.

When Oracle moved into Curse, the SA had been engaging in many battles there already. MASS and The Collective mostly. We of course dedicated ourselves to help drive out these invaders. Then other Stain corps started to come in, and we started to find ourselves pressed for numbers.

When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing.

Stain has stated they attacked us for being pirates, even prior to Sinister being here. Who is the pirates? Not the Red Corsairs, unless you consider raiding into Stain to free our kin from your slave ships. No, expansion is thier motive. Take Curse and they then have more resources and a easy access to Immense Sea, more resources.

Now, the Curse Coalition claims acts of piracy from us against them. Show me proof. Just the other night, Fubie was in a meeting with Leyla and everything was fine and dandy. Now the backstab and accusations fly. If you had this problem, why not discuss it in the meeting Fubie?

While the Curse Alliance fights to keep all safe in Curse, including the many non-alligned corps there, never have I seen a Curse Coalition corp joining in to help defend. If you wish to leave Curse, then by al means do so, as all you do is mine the resources and add nothing constructive for your gains.

For those who know me, I do not lie and I keep to my honor. These are accurate facts as seen by myself.


Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.29 20:03:00 - [5]

Commander TAT;

As you may be aware of, MASS and The Collective were operating in Curse prior to Sinister arriving. They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. During these incursions into Curse, many innocents were targeted and destroyed by these corporations. It is against them, as well as any invaders that we help defend.

To you, and the rest of the Curse Coalition, I ask that you listen to all sides of the argument, and not just Fubie's. Though part of the Curse Alliance, if asked, I will remain neutral in helping to moderate any differences, as the truth needs to be unburied from the mass of lies covering it. Instead of tossing slander and inaccurate information around, perhaps a level headed meeting can be arranged to discuss these issues and clear up all facts from both sides.

Like a coin, all arguments and problems have 2 sides. Only when both sides are seen in the full light of truth can responsible and reasonable people give a true accounting. As stated, I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved.



Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.29 20:03:00 - [6]

Commander TAT;

As you may be aware of, MASS and The Collective were operating in Curse prior to Sinister arriving. They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. During these incursions into Curse, many innocents were targeted and destroyed by these corporations. It is against them, as well as any invaders that we help defend.

To you, and the rest of the Curse Coalition, I ask that you listen to all sides of the argument, and not just Fubie's. Though part of the Curse Alliance, if asked, I will remain neutral in helping to moderate any differences, as the truth needs to be unburied from the mass of lies covering it. Instead of tossing slander and inaccurate information around, perhaps a level headed meeting can be arranged to discuss these issues and clear up all facts from both sides.

Like a coin, all arguments and problems have 2 sides. Only when both sides are seen in the full light of truth can responsible and reasonable people give a true accounting. As stated, I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved.



Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
   
 
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