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Karsten
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Karsten on 25/06/2006 20:32:49
Edited by: Karsten on 25/06/2006 20:31:52
After 3+ years of game play i would expect that adjustments are done with tweezers.
Currently they seem to use a sledgehammer instead.
After 3 years we could expect that the devs understand the game and its mechanics good enough to control the direction of the game by applying discrete steering instead of radical 180¦ degrees turns.
The current actions like massive unannouced changes of the missions are only alienating players.
Such behaviour is acceptable in beta and at the begining of the game lifecycle but no longer in a grown up product that is Eve now.
Karsten
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:35:00 -
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missions ?
tbh who cares ?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:36:00 -
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There have already been at least a thread per day about this since the mission nerf.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:36:00 -
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 Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
missions ?
tbh who cares ?
mission runners, at a guess 
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Karsten
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
missions ?
tbh who cares ?
therefore i said LIKE
Karsten
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:40:00 -
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exactly what massive changes to missions are u talking about.
it would help if u were able to give examples of such a sweeping statement.
do u mean adding BCs and destroyers to DS missions meaning players get MORE bounties with little or no appreciable difference to the difficulty of the missions.
do u mean moving some non-DS missions to DS again increasing the overall bounties and adding some further diversity to missions.
the only ACTUAL nerf i am aware of is the change to infiltrated outposts and CCP have said on a number of occasions they dont want easy access to high quantities of zyd and mega in high sec. if anything players brought this nerf on themselves by farming the mission repeatedly after allowing it to respawn at DT.
so are you going to substantiate your whine or is this just a knee jerk reaction?
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Messerschmitt facility
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:42:00 -
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how did they nerfed the missions?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Messerschmitt facility
how did they nerfed the missions?
increased the difficulties on a number of the easiest lvl4s, nerfed the (stupidly large) reward of IO and (accidentally) reset the LP/reward/bonus meters, so they will take a while to get back up to scratch.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:49:00 -
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/me stopped missions day one RMR.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
/me stopped missions day one RMR.
That didn't make you bitter at all did it?
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Messerschmitt facility
how did they nerfed the missions?
increased the difficulties on a number of the easiest lvl4s, nerfed the (stupidly large) reward of IO and (accidentally) reset the LP/reward/bonus meters, so they will take a while to get back up to scratch.
whether the increase to difficulties is a nerf is a matter of opinion. most of the people i know in game are actually enjoying it.
the LP and rewards of the new versions of missions were not reset accidentally, all missions always start low when first introduced and it takes a couple of days of the missions being done for the amount to stabilise. this has already happened as well.
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: mrg29
exactly what massive changes to missions are u talking about.
it would help if u were able to give examples of such a sweeping statement.
do u mean adding BCs and destroyers to DS missions meaning players get MORE bounties with little or no appreciable difference to the difficulty of the missions.
do u mean moving some non-DS missions to DS again increasing the overall bounties and adding some further diversity to missions.
the only ACTUAL nerf i am aware of is the change to infiltrated outposts and CCP have said on a number of occasions they dont want easy access to high quantities of zyd and mega in high sec. if anything players brought this nerf on themselves by farming the mission repeatedly after allowing it to respawn at DT.
so are you going to substantiate your whine or is this just a knee jerk reaction?
Same mission as every other guy had been whining about that they have been sucking dry for all its worth and grinding that they just cant get over WHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:20:00 -
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Have to say i agree with mrg29... he's pretty much spot on...
Those like him and me are laughing all the way... we make more now than what we did last week...
The drones thing was the only real nerf.... even then it's not that bad... it's still a 3rd... plus you factor in the in the 2nd stage on the harrasment mission now having 3 controlers... your probaly getting half the zyd you were from running...
Thats enough imho, i tossed my piles up for the last few days since the patch and iv'e cleared 40k still.
The only people that are realy suffering are the ones that only farmed the outposts.... and who cares about those:/
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
/me stopped missions day one RMR.
That didn't make you bitter at all did it?
Nope. I learnt how to farm agent runners. 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
/me stopped missions day one RMR.
That didn't make you bitter at all did it?
Nope. I learnt how to farm agent runners.
So what did?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
/me stopped missions day one RMR.
That didn't make you bitter at all did it?
Nope. I learnt how to farm agent runners.
So what did?
First 3 months in game. Got repetitive pirate gate ganked, cheated, looted, tricked by "high-sec" friends (Concord  ) and had to restart at few thousand ISKs for a few times... 
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:38:00 -
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What sledgehammer? Beyond the mistakes made in the patch? Isn't the first patch that resets the lp/isk rewards to pre running conditions disadvantage of having a system that bases rewards on average time to complete ( pretty damn awesome idea btw )
Only thing that annoys me to no end is the fact that lvl 3 missions are now extremely hard for newer players ( There's missions that have you agroing 20 cruisers, lets say your average cruiser ain't gonna tank that )
And the tiny detail that the patch notes could have used some more love.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:38:00 -
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Oh, classic sociopathy caused by a traumatized childhood
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Oh, classic sociopathy caused by a traumatized childhood
Well those who are abused when young are likely to abuse when old.
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Blighter
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:10:00 -
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Look on the bright side, CCP said the changes were really meant for Kali.
So when Kali hits, and everyhting changes to how it was the day of the last patch, people won;t be able to say they didn;t see it coming.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:27:00 -
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Wow are people still moaning about mission changes? 
God, people get a grip. There are plenty of other things that got far more nerfed recently (Caldari Command Ships, Market, Missiles, to name a few)
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
/me stopped missions day one RMR.
That didn't make you bitter at all did it?
I dont think its possible for her to be more bitter. 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/06/2006 12:29:01
See below.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Well those who are abused when young are likely to abuse when old.
.. that explains alot!
Unnerf Amarr!
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