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Akip
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Akip on 25/06/2006 21:01:45
Hello
Well after the 10% increase on lower tier artyleries, I was happy to use them, then I saw that now they are quite decent guns and compared them with high tier.
And I found out that with high skills (spec lvl4, all gunnery support skills on lvl5 + 5%+3% implants ) there is no difference on DOT - or 0.36% difference, when counting clip size into account (EMP ammo).
So when more advanced you are in weapons you don't benefit from high tier guns over lower tier guns other then 25% more optimal range (that cost 25% more powergrid and lower tracking).
here are some numbers for 720mm t2/650mm t2
basic stats (no skills/ ships bonues/ no gyro,etc.)
gun___dam.__ROF___DPS___Clip__Time to_____DPS with
______mod.______________Size__empy clip___reload time
650t2_5.28__12.75_0.41__20____265_________0.398491
720t2_6.9___15.75_0.44__10____167.5_______0.411940
(sorry I don't know how to make normal spaces)
DPS difference with reload time = 3.2650%
good skills (as mantioned/ +20% damage from ship bonus/ 3x gyro)
gun___dam.__ROF___DPS___Clip__Time to_____DPS with
______mod.______________Size__empy clip___reload time
650t2_13,8__5,26__2,62__20____115,2_______2,395946
720t2_18,03_6,5___2,77__10____75__________2,404659
DPS difference with reload time = 0.362%
When clip size is for Depleted Uranium 40 shells for 650mm and 20 shells for 720mm difference in DPS is 2.785%.
If anyone would like to boost high tier guns I would recomend more optimal range (I do)- it should be sniping gun IMHO, but this topic is only to show that there is slight difference in DOT in this 2 tiers guns, when high skilled.
I'm happy to use 650mm now :)
cheers
Akip
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Akip
Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Watch Post, wrecking for 1557.5 damage. |
Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:04:00 -
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...still belive that the low-tier arties should be long range repeating cannons and not the poor man's artilery
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 Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:07:00 -
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considering that arty dps in general is pretty horrid and we only use arty far its alpha strike, then the 650's are still pretty useless, atleast in pvp
for pve they might be oke
Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Akip
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Akip on 25/06/2006 21:09:07
Originally by: Tiuwaz
considering that arty dps in general is pretty horrid and we only use arty far its alpha strike, then the 650's are still pretty useless, atleast in pvp
probably... I'm mission runner so maybe that's why I noticed it.
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Akip
Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Watch Post, wrecking for 1557.5 damage. |
voidvim
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:12:00 -
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their a lot of lower tir guns for all races that are not used or consider useless seem like the 10% boost to 650mm howitzer might be ccp starting to get more differnt types of guns to be used.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
...still belive that the low-tier arties should be long range repeating cannons and not the poor man's artilery
= low alpha strike, but higher dps? would be my hope aswell
Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Akip
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Posted - 2006.07.04 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Akip
DPS difference with reload time = 0.362%
I found out that it is affected by only ROF.
So when you have high ROF skills, setup (etc.) you have marginal difference between DPS on 650mm and 720mm
cheers
Akip
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Akip
Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Watch Post, wrecking for 1557.5 damage. |
Awox
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:11:00 -
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I love fitting 720mm (Protos atm) and 3 Gyrostabilizer IIs.
I dropped a Caracal in 3 or 4 volleys the other day :D
21km Optimal with Phased Plasma? Yes please!
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.07.04 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
considering that arty dps in general is pretty horrid and we only use arty far its alpha strike, then the 650's are still pretty useless, atleast in pvp
for pve they might be oke
I disagree. My position on the top of a lot of killmails disagrees too. Not saying they're uber, but they ARE useful and on a Munnin they let you have firepower, a MWD, a rep AND three damage mods.
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