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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.06.27 05:21:00 -
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I think Mark A summed it perfectly...
If you can backup whatever smack you say here (like you are noob at pvp, retard or whatever really), and then back it up with actions in game - then its great, positive and demoralizing for the enemy.
But when one cant back it up - then it may make that person/corp/aliance look weak, or foolish.
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MIRMIDON
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Posted - 2006.07.08 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: MIRMIDON on 08/07/2006 10:13:43
 Originally by: Mark A
Denegrating ....... here.
So it depends.
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Sarafi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:34:00 -
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I like my enemies to smack me, i enjoy it tbh, but i would never smacktalk myself and would have a right go at a corpmate who did it. I think it shows weakness and in lots of cases stupidity.
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:42:00 -
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I enjoy a little local banter every now and then, but smacking them out of their ships is much more effective than smacking with words.
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Hoozin
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:41:00 -
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Friendly Banter. Good.
Smacktalk. Bad.
Can be hard to see the difference as a third party sometimes though.
Forum wars? Pointless but highly entertaining.
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:04:00 -
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Half of the posts are smack.
Half of hte posts are not.
When an alliance wants to let the "Alliance Community" know whats going on, this is where they go. Where does one go to network, find out whats going on on the whole of eve.
Regions fall and alliances rise up. Lines of influence shift and people do monumental things (ASCN's crasy outpost builing mid war comes to mind). This is the place to brag and boast, mourn and moan the ever shifting landscape of Eve's political landscape.
Its the alliances that can do this without degrading to smack talk that are respected. Its the alliances that can't do this without smack talking that are mocked.
** My personal opinion, does not reflect views of my alliance or corp or anyone else **
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Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:04:00 -
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Smack is part of the game.
It won't concern neither Bill the Veldspar Miner and Jim the Ice Miner in Jita, nor Joe the Mission Runner in Tash-Murkon.
And on a lesser amount, it won't concern Andrew the NPC-er, living in a NPC station in Syndicate, blasting ships for a living, for whom every gang/corp/alliance that enters his system is a bunch of piewats 'cause they'll scan the belts and try to gank him.
But for us, the 0.0-faring corporate and alliance-bound people, that tend to make, run and shift politics, smack is part of the game. Be it chest-beating or persuasive, be it an insult or just local banter, it adds to the game atmosphere. Without this forum, the game would get bland.
There's people at work or in internet cafe's that can open an internet explorer and wage wars in words out here, 'cause they can't start the game and wage wars there. EVE is part of their life, and they are enjoying it here as much as they are in PF-346 in a fighting ship.
Drachenlord > I'm sorry Para, who are you again?
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/07/2006 19:29:17
Making people feel bad is what wins wars, or starts them (both are good). Its generally a good thing to tell people how much they suck.
edit; oh yes, it has to be literate to be good. nonsensical spam-smack is a a sign of mental weakness
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Alt Troll
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:51:00 -
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smack is funny. 
<3 hatemail, and smacktalk, and flames. making players angry is the highlight of my day
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.09 13:06:00 -
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The problem isn't smack, it's bad smack. The sad thing is, that's all you ever usually see these days, so people don't realise there's a distinction to be made. Good smack, and by "smack" I basically mean direct ad homs rather than propaganda or whatever, is generally either cutting and incisive with minimal padding or embellishment (lone one-liners tend to be king here), or just flat-out hilarious. If you can find two people on opposite sides who can smack properly, it can add immensely to the game, IMO. Problem is, even if that does ever happen it tends to be drowned out by idiots :(
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.07.10 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
ppl cry alot about smack.. lots of fond of saying how childish it is.. but then most children (at least from where i'm from) have learnt at an early age the old saying
"Stick and stones my break your bones, but names will never hurt you"
The majority of us also learnt from an early age that this statement is utter rubbish.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2006.07.10 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: SweatySack
Edited by: SweatySack on 26/06/2006 10:50:30
Edited by: SweatySack on 26/06/2006 10:49:03
Do you think bringing smack to the forums as a corp/alliance adds to the attack, or aids in there defense?
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For me its brought out of boredom
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Davey Locke
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Posted - 2006.07.10 09:13:00 -
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Did someone say "smack"?????
o/
Personally I think its just another part of Eve-life.
We abuse our mates on teamspeak, our enemies on the battlefield...so why not abuse the other 20 thousand on the forums.
I do agree that in-game smack is unnecessary, but sometimes (we all have to admit) its so much fun!
Likewise its good to see so much love in chat nowadays.
/me looks to the sun and sighs....
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Hallee
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Posted - 2006.07.10 11:57:00 -
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This is a game, it's not true warfare. Granted, we pretend to fight wars in our game, but they are just pretend fights.
Smack talking is quite disrespectful to the other players in the game, and thus shows very poor sportsmanship. Gloating over wins, or moaning about losses is just really tiresome to listen to.
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Plim
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:20:00 -
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The forums serve no purpose than being a rather amusing public urinal.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 10/07/2006 19:48:04
Originally by: Plim
The forums serve no purpose than being a rather amusing public urinal.
heh.. thats kind of funny actually... made me laugh... 
but not entirely true, smart posting can change the reader's perception of things...
and there is such a thing as entertaining, good quality smack imo...few are adept at it though.
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Havelcek
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:49:00 -
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I bet there's only a couple hundred people who read this forum enough to know who the posters and their histories are. Therefore in the grand scope of the game its fairly meaningless.
I do like getting the updates on current events though...for example seeing information on battles happening on the other side of the universe, or things like the alliance PvP tourney.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Havelcek
I bet there's only a couple hundred people who read this forum enough to know who the posters and their histories are. Therefore in the grand scope of the game its fairly meaningless.
I'd say that estimate is very conservative... even if it wasnt.. you don't have to be familiar with the poster's history to perhaps be influenced by his words....
Thats the real trick of the forums.... or propaganda or good quality smack.. to get a reader with an opinion to read a post and perhaps change it slightly.
We are all susceptible to a well worded argument. Its human nature.
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Havelcek
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 10/07/2006 19:59:22
I'd say that estimate is very conservative... even if it wasn't.. you don't have to be familiar with the poster's history to perhaps be influenced by his words....
Thats the real trick of the forums.... or propaganda or good quality smack.. to get a reader with an opinion to read a post and perhaps change that opinion slightly.
We are all susceptible to a cleverly worded argument. Its human nature.
You might be right, also people who don't frequent the forums might be more prone to being influenced by some forum-warrior's post. Anyways after a few months of reading here I think its pretty easy to tell which people are generally full of crap and which aren't.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/07/2006 19:29:17
Making people feel bad is what wins wars, or starts them (both are good). Its generally a good thing to tell people how much they suck.
edit; oh yes, it has to be literate to be good. nonsensical spam-smack is a a sign of mental weakness
You said it. Back in the day, having m0o in local was funny and demoralizing at the same time.
Creative smack is a rare nowadays
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
"Stick and stones my break your bones, but names will never hurt you"
In my childhood, you could never get back to home, just for your words, that you said to someone. So i prefer to keep my mouth shut, and think before i say something. In real life and in the internet. Unfortunately lots of forum warriors unable to understand it, and continuing to insult people, real people, for virtual game.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.07.10 22:43:00 -
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I think that well written and subtle insults can actually be quite entertaining as well as being a fine tool for political statement and manipulation.
It's the retarded flaming that we get most of the time that ticks me off.
The retardation is still politics, though, in some cases. It's just not fun to read.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.07.11 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
I think flames etc can drag the reputation of a corp or alliance down.
too true
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.07.11 00:22:00 -
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tbh CCP should just put in an in-game profanity filter so all the tree hugging estrogen junkies in eve can turn it on and dance around their little rainbow of happyness and stfu when people who dont mind a little smack and profanity in local wanna have a good time at eachothers expence.
I cant even count how many other games do it, I dont know why CCP doesnt do it. If they did, their depressing excuse of a GM team wouldnt be crying from being overloaded with work from Little Jimmy sitting at his safespot crying for mommy cause Deathwing said the f word in local and daddy said thats a bad word.
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Hallee
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Posted - 2006.07.11 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing
tbh CCP should just put in an in-game profanity filter so all the tree hugging estrogen junkies in eve can turn it on and dance around their little rainbow of happyness and stfu when people who dont mind a little smack and profanity in local wanna have a good time at eachothers expence.
I cant even count how many other games do it, I dont know why CCP doesnt do it. If they did, their depressing excuse of a GM team wouldnt be crying from being overloaded with work from Little Jimmy sitting at his safespot crying for mommy cause Deathwing said the f word in local and daddy said thats a bad word.
The issue isn't profanity. Something I could care less about, something I am sure most Eve players could care less about.
Smack talk is differant and doesn't even neccessarily involve any profanity at all (though it certainly can). It only comes in two varieties gloating over a win or whining about a defeat. Neither are interesting or entertaining.
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Hallee
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Posted - 2006.07.11 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea
I think Mark A summed it perfectly...
If you can backup whatever smack you say here (like you are noob at pvp, retard or whatever really), and then back it up with actions in game - then its great, positive and demoralizing for the enemy.
But when one cant back it up - then it may make that person/corp/aliance look weak, or foolish.
Another Mark said it better and a bit more coherantly:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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burek
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Posted - 2006.07.11 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/07/2006 19:29:17
Making people feel bad is what wins wars, or starts them (both are good). Its generally a good thing to tell people how much they suck.
edit; oh yes, it has to be literate to be good. nonsensical spam-smack is a a sign of mental weakness
I fully agree with this. It's good as long as it makes sense and doesn't make you look like a fool.
If anyone plays (or has played) cricket they would know that often sledging the batsman can bring many good things for example hehe
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Vanamonde
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Posted - 2006.07.11 03:49:00 -
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Smacking on the forums or in game can be dangerous...
On the forums: if a passing mod happens upon your post and it is in violation of the rules, it will be removed and dealt with in the manner that it deserves.
In game: If your smack can be categorized as harassment or you use language that is not suitable for the teen rating that Eve-Online carries, and someone creates a petition about you, you can have a warning levied against your account.
So, keep it good natured and if possible "in character". Read the rules to make sure you aren't breaking any. Most of all, have fun.
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Sextus Licinius
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Posted - 2006.07.11 06:47:00 -
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Smack and flames creates hate and hate gives a bonus sense of purpose in this game. People wanna shoot people, but there's nothing like downing a target you hate because is like establishing dominance . Hate can also be method of control and manipulation, for example if x hates y and viceversa they become predictable and thus easier to take advantage from, so is not a bad strategy to make your foe hate you.
If you're 9 year old and you smack everyone you will make people very happy gunning you down thus making a better game for all of us. I can't see anything wrong with smack/flames at all really; it make gameplay better and CCP happier.
Gameplay is better when is enforced by feelings and i'm not talking about love here, if you love everyone in this game go shoot yourself in the head at planet 1.
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2006.07.11 16:06:00 -
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i like smack talk, i like friendly banter.
i love how a few simple and chosen words can break a individual, corp or alliance. in war it isnt just guns that win a war it is also propganda, intel, and play on words.
Why should eve be any different? why must we be all well behaved children whom bow and curtsey to one n other?
play how u want, if you cant handle what is being said - COVER YOUR E?YES AND EARS, till the bad men(women) disappear from your screen.
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