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Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.09 12:44:00 -
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Its one of those things that in small gang PVP is annoying. You find a target thats too big to chew on, and ping a mate whos running around somewhere with another small gang. Lets join up and kill that thing.
Usually - its a case of defleet, invite one to a wing, let them reinvite, rejig as required. Its always a PITA, particularly if there's no shared channel with some, or alts etc, and Logi squads etc all needing a rejig.
Proposal: Invite X to Wing/Squad, bring her fleet.
Basically, if someone is running a Wing (or squad) that fits into your fleet, then they can be invited in to a newly created one. The merge requires no 'defleet/refleet', just a different type of invite.
Obviously, the owner or Fleet Commander can disable this in a fleet setup to offer some protection. Additionally, like disabling fleet warp, any member can disable 'auto merge'. |

Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
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Posted - 2014.07.09 13:24:00 -
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Seems like a good idea. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2014.07.09 14:08:00 -
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This would be incredibly useful. Of course only fleet boss should be able to invite people like that.
This could be awoxy as hell.
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Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.09 14:47:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:This would be incredibly useful. Of course only fleet boss should be able to invite people like that.
This could be awoxy as hell.
Yes, definitely.
Fleet Boss A invites Fleet Boss B's linked fleet to Wing 3 (for example). Fleet Boss B accepts and transfers all squads to Wing 3 of A.
Any B member can deny this request, 'popup' as usual, or disable it to simply drop fleet or stay in fleet B perhaps.
Make sure that when this feature is added, its disabled by default. |

Karash Amerius
Sutoka
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Posted - 2014.07.09 16:18:00 -
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Actually a very good idea. Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka |

Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.07.09 16:51:00 -
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Yes +1
This issue and implementation was discussed a lot with merging/reforming fleets for Incursions. Some of the ISK/hour hunters will be very happy if this gets done.
+1 on their behalf  Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:28:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Yes +1 This issue and implementation was discussed a lot with merging/reforming fleets for Incursions. Some of the ISK/hour hunters will be very happy if this gets done. +1 on their behalf 
Hadn't even imagined anything outside normal PVP, but yes, can see where it would be useful even in PVE. |

Velicitia
Arma Artificer
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:43:00 -
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yes, but only allowed if your FC (assuming he's the "boss") has the right skills to add a squad / wing.
Kinda like the old days --> anyone could make a "gang" (i.e. a squad), but you needed leadership (FC?) to convert that into a fleet. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.11 09:35:00 -
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Given how desirable this might be, would be nice to have some dev input on the problems in implementing it. |

Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:45:00 -
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I can see a great many ways in which this could be useful - particularly if the reverse was also possible (I have a fleet consisting of two wings; I choose to divide my forces (perhaps to get more fights by having smaller groups, perhaps because I have enough of everything in the waitlist wing to allow two seperate Incursion fleets...etc) so I take Wing 1 and it remains as is while Wing 2 hives off and becomes Wing 1 of a new fleet (without having to have everyone in Wing 2 defleet, refleet and reorganise...)
If this is feasible then please, CCP, "Make it so."
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Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
84
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Posted - 2014.07.12 11:16:00 -
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Jacob Holland wrote:I can see a great many ways in which this could be useful - particularly if the reverse was also possible (I have a fleet consisting of two wings; I choose to divide my forces (perhaps to get more fights by having smaller groups, perhaps because I have enough of everything in the waitlist wing to allow two seperate Incursion fleets...etc) so I take Wing 1 and it remains as is while Wing 2 hives off and becomes Wing 1 of a new fleet (without having to have everyone in Wing 2 defleet, refleet and reorganise...)
If this is feasible then please, CCP, "Make it so."
Yes, this would also be great. It just a mess at the moment, and I suspect everyone would benefit from large scale to small all around. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:45:00 -
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When is this going to gain the traction it deserves?
C'mon CCP. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
85
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Posted - 2014.07.18 12:03:00 -
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Traction people. Can you get corpmates, alliances to at least 'like' this. Its a winner. |

epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2014.07.18 12:14:00 -
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This seems like a useful suggestion, worth spending the time involved in looking into it. +1 for it being investigated by CSM/CCP There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

Thorr VonAsgard
Never Surrender.
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Posted - 2014.07.18 13:35:00 -
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Rab See wrote:Arya Regnar wrote:This would be incredibly useful. Of course only fleet boss should be able to invite people like that.
This could be awoxy as hell. Yes, definitely. Fleet Boss A invites Fleet Boss B's linked fleet to Wing 3 (for example). Fleet Boss B accepts and transfers all squads to Wing 3 of A. Any B member can deny this request, 'popup' as usual, or disable it to simply drop fleet or stay in fleet B perhaps. Make sure that when this feature is added, its disabled by default.
+1 with this configuration |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:55:00 -
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Back to the grindstone, and a chance to push this onto the agenda.
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
552
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Posted - 2014.07.21 16:13:00 -
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+1 |

Mazzara
Gale Force Contractors
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Posted - 2014.07.21 22:38:00 -
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Good idea No matter how much you scrub, how hot of water you use,-áyou can't wash shame! |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:42:00 -
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Traction: synonyms:grip, friction, adhesion, purchase, resistance
hoping for some dev input. |

Dally Lama
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:00:00 -
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If they implement this, I will be gleefuly awaiting the TMC article about the FC who AWOX'd his fleet using this tactic.
+1 New Fitting Window | Distances above 10km | Maximums for buy orders |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
93
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Posted - 2014.07.23 13:14:00 -
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Dally Lama wrote:If they implement this, I will be gleefuly awaiting the TMC article about the FC who AWOX'd his fleet using this tactic.
+1
Yes, as noted, to stop this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4787056#post4787056 |

James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
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Posted - 2014.07.23 14:13:00 -
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Doesn't help if the FC is actually the one doing it. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.23 15:51:00 -
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James Baboli wrote:Doesn't help if the FC is actually the one doing it.
Which FC? A or B.
A is asking B to join, B members can avoid or deny. A members perhaps should also be able to avoid or deny.
Simply drop from fleet if merge action taken and 'avoid' is set, or deny made.
If you dont trust your FC then ... don't be in fleet. If you dont know your FC, then be wary and auto drop on merge. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:07:00 -
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persistently asking if this is feasible, to have a new GOOD feature added? Hey, even put a nice interface on it, all tree like structures etc.
Shiny is as shiny does. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:41:00 -
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Is this a sordid attempt to preserve interest in an interesting feature request? |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
93
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:07:00 -
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Rab See wrote:Is this a sordid attempt to preserve interest in an interesting feature request?
No, but is this?
Anyone dislike it? |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
93
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Posted - 2014.07.29 12:54:00 -
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Like something one wipes off their shoe?
Or like the little fish that nibble at your feet?
Good idea, hard to fault. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
106
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Posted - 2014.07.30 12:42:00 -
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Allrighty. Lets get busy with this one. Devs? Any Reps? Anyone?
Is there a CSM out there? |

Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
209
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Posted - 2014.07.30 12:45:00 -
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Lame bumping... But a great idea +1 |

FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2014.07.31 09:27:00 -
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This needs to be a thing |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.08.01 11:45:00 -
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There is scope to improve the game for everyone who IS NOT SOLO. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.08.05 11:56:00 -
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So, to reiterate:
useful for PVP, PVE, both large and small fleet ops.
Safe if implemented correctly.
Time and hassle saving, almost amazing that its not done yet.
You would be loved by me for doing. |
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