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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.06.28 08:07:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 28/06/2006 08:08:28
Well, now that things are getting finalized, let's talk about it! Pre-game hype 4TW!!
Here's the breakdown of who is going to shoot who first.
Looking at the MC bracket (Group C)...
ISS - Count, which one is your alt so I can smacktalk you on MSN? 
U'K - Will you be flying all Minnie ships per RP?
SA - We already shoot at each other every day so nothing new here. 
D-L - Ermmmm... who? Seriously, who are these guys?
My picks for the rest...
Group A - D2 and Pure.
Group B - BoB & -V-
Group D - LV & 3FA
Group E - Red Skull & VC
Group F - ASCN & AM <---3% structure Tempests 4TW!
Group G - The Rock and AXE
Group H - IAC & KAOS
I'm going to be very curious to see how the other brackets play out, especially with all of this EVE-TV stuff and dedicated commentary.
LeMonde really deserves some kudos for putting together something that is liable to cause most of EVE to just stop for a couple weekends while everyone is glued to the coverage! 
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.06.28 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kyguard on 28/06/2006 08:25:19
Group A - Five and D2
Group B - RA and BoB
Group C - ISS and U'K
Group D - LV and 3FA (cough!)
Group E - ERA and VC
Group F - AM and EM
Group G - The Rock and AXE
Group H - BLK and IAC
It's going to be fun if some of the less popular no-name alliances get to go deep into it and even win. Nothing's more fun that having the unexpected
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maGz
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Posted - 2006.06.28 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: maGz on 28/06/2006 08:33:17
Edited by: maGz on 28/06/2006 08:31:06
Group A - D2 & The Five (could call this the dynamite-group, lots of potential for great/close fights)
Group B - BoB & -V- (RA might be an outsider here)
Group C - MC & SA (Interesting group, but I honestly don't see anyone else than the beforementioned going through)
Group D - LV & NORAD/3FA (I doubt GoonSwarm will go through. This fighting with only 5 in gang isn't really their thing  )
Group E - VC & The Red Skull (E.R.A might do something good here, who knows)
Group F - ASCN & C-o-C-K (AM might be the outsider here, I doubt they'll pull another 3% structure Tempest tho )
Group G - AXE & EM
Group H - TRUST & IAC
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2006.06.28 11:01:00 -
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A few randow thoughts:
Economic warfare for the very rich: I predict a shortage of CNRs on the market, as they get bought by allinces in preparation for the tourney, by gougers hoping to make a quick buck, and rich alliances trying to restrict their availability to the opposition.
Further economic sabotage could be to buy all the, say, alpha pirate implants, to prevent ppl getting full sets.
I presume that apart from the BS, most ships will be plain vanilla T2 types.
I'm interested to see what interdictors get used, and command ship type might also be interesting.
Would using a ship scanner on the inty, to find out hardener type be a valid tactic?
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 28/06/2006 14:25:10
My picks are;
A. The Five
Dusk and Dawn
B. Veritas Immortalis
Band of Brothers
C. Mercenary Coalition
Stain- Alliance
D. 3rd Front Alliance
Lotka Volterra
E. Can't Say [biased]
F. Coalition of Carebear Killers
ASCN
G. Exuro Mortis
The Rock
H. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
KAOS Empire OR Vox Imperium
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Traderette
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:33:00 -
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who exactly is fighting for The Five ? i thought they had disbanded, is it gonna be like a reunion team with the elite from all its previous corps or what ? |
aeti
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Traderette
who exactly is fighting for The Five ? i thought they had disbanded, is it gonna be like a reunion team with the elite from all its previous corps or what ?
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SLIM
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:40:00 -
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I'm probably way off on some of these, but here's my take:
A:
One of the toughest brackets. D2 have many skilled PVPers, I just worry that they will choose fleet commanders instead of skilled fighters. Still, I think they'll come out on top, along with The Five.
D2
The Five
B:
BOB is the obvious choice, but sometimes the obvious choice is the correct one. They have the pilots and the money. I'm going to lay my money down on RA being the other finalist. I've played EVE for over 3 years, and the Russians have shown themselves to be tenacious and innovative.
BOB
RA
C:
U'K are good fighters, but if they use RP, they'll be at a tactical disadvantage. MC, although they got knocked out early last time, I think will get through the qualifiers here. My second pick has to be Stain- Alliance.
MC
SA
D:
D is an interesting group and hard for me to get a handle on. I gotta give 3FA a good chance by sheer dint of them living in syndicate and surviving for so long. LV would be my other choice, Shinra especially has some really top notch people.
3FA
LV
E:
Hate to fall in lockstep here, but I have to give it to Red Skull and Vertigo Coalition. Red Skull was formed specifically for the purpose and consists of EVIL PIERATS, who, in my opinion, are better at figuring out the weaknesses of ships than blobtastic alliances. VC's sheer amount of PVP experience sets them above the others in this bracket.
Red Skull
VC
F:
Coalition of Carebear Killers are fairly unknown (and had their ticker changed :( ), but they know how to fight. I expect them to make a strong showing. The other choice will have to be Aegis Militia based on their strong last showing.
G:
My alliance's division, expect some bias. We have two major concerns. Firstly, AXE are rich bastards, and can afford some good stuff. Secondly, The Rock might get some good outside help again. That being said, the way we see it, these are our picks:
Exuro Mortis
Axiom Empire
H:
KAOS made such a strong showing last time, I can't help but think a similar situation will crop up this year. That and IAC will have a very strong team. TRUST makes me think a D2 team though, so it's a tough call. in the end, I choose:
KAOS
IAC
I'm probably spectacularly wrong on some of these, but so it goes. I will def enjoy watching what I can (gg putting a lot of fights during friday working hours :( ).
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.28 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 28/06/2006 17:09:27
Great idea Seleene
A) D2 in first, IRON in second i think, depends on who the ATUK team consists of I guess.
B) BoB nr 1, RA second. -V- might do well..
C) MC nr 1, SA nr 2.
D) LV nr1, 3FA nr 2.
E) The Red Skull nr1, VC nr 2, too bad jamesw can't make it 
F) SMASH nr1, CO-CK nr2, I figure AM last time was a fluke, EM are a joke and ASCN don't seem to have much to choose from, i don't really know who CO-CK are tho so who knows.
G) Exuro Mortis nr1, AXE nr2.
H) IAC nr1, KAOS nr2, T R U S T might be difficult if they're D2's second team, BRS might put up a good showing from Geeklab, i expect Vox Imperium to lose all their matches.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:58:00 -
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Hmm, nobody thinks ASCN can get to next round?
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jellybird
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak
Hmm, nobody thinks ASCN can get to next round?
Nope sry 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:38:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=328998&page=6#153
That guy thinks ASCN are going to win ! so yes
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.06.29 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak
Hmm, nobody thinks ASCN can get to next round?
Depends on who the team is made up of TBH. I know Cyvok has a killer PvP alt or two... Are you on it, Kozak?
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2006.06.29 09:43:00 -
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Bloody forum ate my post.  Top 3 from each round.
The Five
Dusk and Dawn
Pure.
Band of Brothers
Veritas Immortalis
Red Alliance
Mercenary Coalition
Stain- Alliance
Ushra'Khan
Lotka Volterra
GoonSwarm
3rd Front Alliance
E.R.A
The Red Skull
Morsus Mihi
Ascendant Frontier
Aegis Militia
SMASH Alliance
Axiom Empire
Exuro Mortis
The Rock
KAOS Empire
T R U S T
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Kozak
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:54:00 -
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I'm flying for ASCN this time.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:26:00 -
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Two notes on group E:
1. Vertigo Coalition is not competing. Morsus Mihi is. Wherever you placed Vertigo Coalition, you should place Morsus Mihi.
2. Don't count out FA - they may not be able to stand toe to toe with BoB, but they have some very experienced PvPers in their alliance, and can certainly field a good team of 5.
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Sadist
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sadist on 01/07/2006 14:20:58
Group A - D2 and IRON.
Group B - BoB & -V-
Group D - LV & 3FA <---no clue on this really, so i'll go with seleene's pick
Group E - Red Skull & VC <--- same, and just because others are a joke.
Group F - C oCK. & AM <--- just because c ock sounds awesome
Group G - SE and Exuro mortis, obviously.
Group H - IAC & KAOS <--- dont know about anyone but IAC.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:59:00 -
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Heh kinda looks like this thread needs to be redone since the lineup got changed..
VC got replaced by Morsus Mihi, and THE R0CK with Stain Empire at least.
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Broska
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Posted - 2006.07.01 19:48:00 -
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Who on earth is flying for KAOS, I wouldn't bet on them going through the two main PvP corps with in the Alliance who's pilots participated last time left. ADGA is now in LV and Species is now in ASCN.
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UnknownHuman
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:33:00 -
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Kaos has a very good team this tourney. I know we'll do just as well if not better than the last tourney.
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Broska
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: UnknownHuman
Kaos has a very good team this tourney. I know we'll do just as well if not better than the last tourney.
Good luck guys, Gonna have a job beating how well Kaos did last time, but good luck man :)
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.07.02 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
VC got replaced by Morsus Mihi, and THE R0CK with Stain Empire at least.
It is more accurate to say that VC's team is now in Morsus Mihi.
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2006.07.05 05:23:00 -
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A lot of my choices are similar to everyone else's but I'm actually gonna speculate how I think the entire tourney will play out (not that there's even the slightest chance I'll be right).
First Round:
Group A: D2 and The Five.
Group B: BoB and RA.
Group C: MC and U'K.
Group D: LV and GoonSwarm. The goons might have a lot of noobs, but they've also got people that have been playing eve since it started. Underestimate them at your peril.
Group E: Morsus Mihi and E.R.A.
Group F: AM and ASCN. Of course I'm a bit biased.
Group G: EM and AXE. This is a tough one, and is gonna be based on how well EM, AXE, and SE do against each other.
Group H: IAC and KAOS.
Second Round:
D2 vs RA: D2.
MC vs GoonSwarm: MC.
Mosus Mihi vs ASCN: ASCN.
EM vs KAOS: KAOS.
BOB vs The Five: BoB.
LV vs U'K: LV.
AM vs E.R.A: AM.
IAC vs AXE: IAC.
Third Round:
D2 vs MC: MC.
ASCN vs KAOS: ASCN.
BoB vs LV: BoB.
AM vs IAC: IAC.
Fourth Round:
MC vs ASCN: MC.
BoB vs IAC: BoB.
Final Round:
MC vs BoB: BoB.
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Coug
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Posted - 2006.07.05 15:12:00 -
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Why does this feel a bit like the March Madness NCAA Tourney bracket/office pool craze in the states?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.07.05 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 05/07/2006 16:45:33
Originally by: Coasterbrian
A lot of my choices are similar to everyone else's but I'm actually gonna speculate how I think the entire tourney will play out (not that there's even the slightest chance I'll be right).
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Yes, it's slightly biased and will likely in no way reflect how the tourney is actually gonna play out, but it's fun to speculate. :)
Wouldn't surprise me at all to see ASCN doing well this time with Kozak on board.
I really doubt AM will beat E.R.A, I chalk AM's doing great last time to a fluke :) however having said that it'd be pretty hot if IAC got to fight AM I'm sure they'd love it as much as I would...
I don't think AXE will make it out of the first bracket, SE and EM seem more likely to me, so that's probly your bias talking
Will be fun to see what strategies people bring to the table once things start, who varies their tactics, who doesn't.. The more surprises the merrier
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Kozak
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Posted - 2006.07.05 19:47:00 -
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I know the guys that are in it for KAOS and they have a good team.
SE will do well, they gave us a good fight last time.
BoB had implants and tech 2 missles on their side last time. This time, that advantage is gone with tech 2 ammo not being allowed and a lot more people have pirate implants in this time. If they go with the same strategy as last time, might be some very close matches.
I don't know why Everyone is putting MC at the top. They didn't do that great last time and it's not about PvP prowess, but about Strategy/ISK/Skill Points. There are a lot of players in EVE that have those but don't PvP much.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.07.05 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Wanoah on 05/07/2006 20:53:38
I'd say it is unlikely that U'K is tactically restrained by RP... Although it'd be surprising if you saw our guys fielding an Imperial Apoc or something.
Looks like our group is the group of death though - should be interesting.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2006.07.05 21:00:00 -
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Well, funny thing about all this. I certainly hope ASCN represents well. I know full well that we have some outstanding PvP'ers within the alliance. Working as a team on the 100+ person level, a different story altogether. I'm sure there are many groups out there that have an excellent PvP core group, but do not excel at the same level on other fields.
But I feel the same way about everyone. It's easy to feel successful against someone's weakspot (PvP, industry, whatever), and therefore get a reputation as a great player who always succeeds. A different story when you go against another group's most difficult vulnerability. The great players do that, but they still have to do it as a team to be worth any valid "threat" level.
All that being said, I don't think anyone can predict accurately an outcome to this. All it takes is one mistake, one missed jam, a bit low transversal velocity. I'm sure the better PvP'ers will do well, as they always do, but luck does and will play a factor. Surprises will be gauranteed, I'm sure, and the top dogs will not always prevail.
Hope everyone has fun, and let the underdogs prove their might, now is their chance to shine on the small scale level. Best of luck to everyone, and congratulations for at least trying, which is more than I have time for atm.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.07.05 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak
If they go with the same strategy as last time, might be some very close matches.
I don't know why Everyone is putting MC at the top. They didn't do that great last time and it's not about PvP prowess, but about Strategy/ISK/Skill Points. There are a lot of players in EVE that have those but don't PvP much.
BoB can't go with the same strategy since this time there's no precision cruise, and the addition of command ships changes everything :)
As for MC, they certainly have no ISK or SP shortages, you'd think they'd have some good strategists too for that matter hreh.
And PVP skill/experience counts for a lot too, the only reason BoB beat us (THE R0CK) last time was that we ****** up lots and they didn't at all.
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Tyffan
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:06:00 -
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This will be interesting... very interesting =)
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Originally by: Sk Rooster
"...yeah he said accidents do happen??!?!? how about he's just a noob and they lost because they suck!"
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Mimiru
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:42:00 -
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A- Pure and 5
B- RA and BoB
C- MC and ISS
D- NORAD and 3FA
E- biased a bit :p FA and Morsus Mihi 
F- AM and SMASH
G- The Rock and Exuro Mortis
H- KAOS and IAC
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Mark A
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Traderette
who exactly is fighting for The Five ? i thought they had disbanded, is it gonna be like a reunion team with the elite from all its previous corps or what ?
It's an ATUK reunion team.
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: QwaarJet on 06/07/2006 11:25:33
I'll say for Group C
Chorus Of Dawn to win!
On a more serious note, I expect Ushra'Khan and MC to qualify, but I hope we have a shot.
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Cloue
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Posted - 2006.07.06 17:14:00 -
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A- D2 and Iron
B- BoB and -V-
C- MC and SA
D- NORAD and LV [not to sure on this group]
E- VC and FA
F- SMASH and AM
G- Rock and Exuro Mortis
H- KOAS and hmm dunno
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.07.07 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 07/07/2006 05:25:19
Originally by: Kozak
I don't know why Everyone is putting MC at the top. They didn't do that great last time and it's not about PvP prowess, but about Strategy/ISK/Skill Points.
Put last time out of your memory. To be honest, our 'team' last time was thrown together at the last minute, and I mean that quite literaly. In addition, there was a great deal of apathy in the MC at the time as we'd just come off a huge contract against 5 and -V- and the concept of a 'PvP Contest' just didn't really spark our imaginations. Needless to say, we were proven wrong and paid for our lack of foresight with an early exit.
Not this time, m8. While anything can happen in an event like this, I can promise you that you'll see a very different MC than before. 
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Krapz
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Posted - 2006.07.07 14:49:00 -
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Lemme just think out loud a sec here.
Before all the trash talking and "king of the mountain" speak begins, I just want to clarify:
How much bragging rights is on the table?
To me, PvP without EW is like sexoring with no lube. I would be happy to crown the winner as the king of a no-EW, controlled PvP arena match. But a **** star, IMO, you are not.
However, if we can all agree that there is something more, as everyone continues to imply, then fine with me. Believe me, I would love to watch ISS mop the floor with everyone, and sell you back all your cool mods and guns at 300% markup. But in the same sense, I don't want to see BoB win and everyone blow it off like it was supposed to happen either.
Thoughts?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.07.07 15:43:00 -
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Of course one gets some bragging rights from winning this, because strategy / tactics count for the most here, it's not just amount of ISK or SP altho those certainly are big factors..
Being veteran enough not to mess your strategy up counts for a lot too, thus experienced pvpers have an advantage despite it being a tournament format.
Just because you win here doesn't mean you're a godly TQ fighter or fleet commander, but people who succeed by use of ECM, damps, stabs and whatnot don't particularly impress me anyway.
It's the easy way, the win button, what lets you fight 10vs1 and still not be easily killable.
The tournament has the best fighters and strategists fighting each other on relatively equal terms, no blobbing or win buttons involved..
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splattercat
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Posted - 2006.07.08 01:11:00 -
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i think my allance will do badly... Pls bring only tec1 ships and make us suffer..
Pls someone vote for OXIDE, i feal realy unloved.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.07.08 10:18:00 -
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If we go all the way, cool. If we don't, oh well. Win or lose, I love the new World Cup format that assures people will get more than one fight. It's still going to be fun as hell to just watch all the other players.
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BOBHOPE
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Posted - 2006.07.08 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
If we go all the way, cool. If we don't, oh well. Win or lose, I love the new World Cup format that assures people will get more than one fight. It's still going to be fun as hell to just watch all the other players.
completely agreed.
things like this always bring the community together and we all get to have a laugh regardless, win or lose
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emepror
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Posted - 2006.07.09 12:27:00 -
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so i guess no chance for s-l
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Kassi Dee
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Posted - 2006.07.09 13:47:00 -
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I keep seeing "TRUST = D2"....has anyone even looked at the pilots for -T-?
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Keera Saarusuos
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Posted - 2006.07.10 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Keera Saarusuos on 10/07/2006 00:42:00
Krapz, there's just no realistic way to include ECM in a competition in this format (within an arena, no warping, no cloaking, etc). The winning team would invariably be the one with a scorp, a rook, and a command ship packed with EW enhancing mods. The amount of jamming those two ships can do is more than enough to lock down 5 enemy ships.
Personally I have much less interest in the outcome of a 'whose EW ships can lock and start their jams faster' contests than the format we have here.
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Seleiah
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Posted - 2006.07.10 10:50:00 -
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Maybe Oxide has a chance in group D, no one knows about them, but they can hit hard ! :) (i know from experience)
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