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Corven Tereghen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:16:00 -
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[whine]
TL;DR: Grown man struggles with real life commitments interfering with playing EVE to a level acceptable to him. Can he play at this level or should he biomass and GTFO?
Not sure if I need a shrink or just a good smack in the jaw, but I have this problem thatGÇÖs bothering me: I wish I could bring myself to play this game for real (ex. joining a corp and fleeting up), but I canGÇÖt.
Half the problem is my outside commitments. My wife *just* tolerates me being a gamer, other games get jealous when I hang out with MMOs, and my job happens to pay for all those games. I feel like those would cut too much out of the commitment needed to be useful in a corp. IGÇÖm not even talking about the herculean levels of commitment that hardcore players have, like logging in at 3am their time to defend a POS coming out of reinforced. IGÇÖm talking about small FW roams and weekend mining ops in 0.5. I donGÇÖt think I can hack it without ditching my wife, cutting work early, and/or making EVE the only game I play.
The other half of the problem is social. I donGÇÖt know a single person who plays this game and all my attempts to encourage my few gaming friends to play have failed. That means I have to find a corp who will surely put meGÇöa relatively experienced player with a new accountGÇöunder a lot of scrutiny for being a possible AWOXer. I was once kicked from a corp on another character for suspicion of being a thief; this made it very hard to join other corps because my only references thought I had stolen their stuff. I donGÇÖt want a repeat performance of that.
The one time I successfully played EVE with a corp, it went from being an empire mining corp to heading up a 0.0 alliance; I played for almost two years before the corp collapsed and it was the greatest time IGÇÖve ever had in game. Back then I was single and living off my university funds; it was easy to play for 6 hours a day if I wanted. Now, every time I try to restart I just end up going it alone and quitting from boredom two months later because IGÇÖm afraid to commit to a corp.
Are my glory days lost to me?
[/whine]
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Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
213
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:22:00 -
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Well what do you want to do..
FW can work on a casual basis.. so can high sec
Null and Sov stuff requires a bit more commitment
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Jim Era
8632
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:23:00 -
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wat WatGäó |

Giuseppe R Raimondo
Lowsey Pirates Inc. Easily Excited
41
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:26:00 -
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before you biomass give me your stuff. pretty please |

Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption Space Wolves Alliance
95
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:28:00 -
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Join RvB or BRAVE. Low committment, low skill needed, invest however much you want.
I hear both are helpful with a person like you =) |

Marsha Mallow
1269
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:29:00 -
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Treat it like a derty slapper you'd bang but not marry. Commit when you want to, cavort with others, run away screaming when anyone mentions alarm clock ops. Or asks for your phone number to ping you for cap ops - seriously the first time this was mentioned I laughed so hard couldn't speak for a minute. Nerds.
Most corps support semi casuals btw - they'd have no 'grunts' otherwise. It's only niche groups that ask for your life (and usually you can just sacrifice FCs/logistics/corp/alliance lead & diplos to that). Even decent 'elite' corps use pings so people aren't logged in 18 hours a day waiting for a fight.
You don't have to maintain high activity levels consistently forever either, plenty of people cycle their activity up and down. Just make sure no one can nick your stuff/it's not trapped in inaccessible spots if you take longer breaks. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

Sylveria Relden
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:33:00 -
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LOL, after reading the title, I had expected one of those "It's not you, it's me." lines.... :P |

Corven Tereghen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:33:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Treat it like a derty slapper you'd bang but not marry. Commit when you want to, cavort with others, run away screaming when anyone mentions alarm clock ops. Or asks for your phone number to ping you for cap ops - seriously the first time this was mentioned I laughed so hard couldn't speak for a minute. Nerds.
Most corps support semi casuals btw - they'd have no 'grunts' otherwise. It's only niche groups that ask for your life (and usually you can just sacrifice FCs/logistics/corp/alliance lead & diplos to that). Even decent 'elite' corps use pings so people aren't logged in 18 hours a day waiting for a fight.
You don't have to maintain high activity levels consistently forever either, plenty of people cycle their activity up and down. Just make sure no one can nick your stuff/it's not trapped in inaccessible spots if you take longer breaks.
Thanks, that's comforting to hear. |

Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
12299
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:35:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Treat it like a derty slapper you'd bang but not marry. Commit when you want to, cavort with others, run away screaming when anyone mentions alarm clock ops. Or asks for your phone number to ping you for cap ops - seriously the first time this was mentioned I laughed so hard couldn't speak for a minute. Nerds. Wow, and you said -I- was a dirty scrubber. 
Those alarm clock ops are pretty common in the corps I've been involved with, along with those Jabber pings to your phone. Some folks take their EVE pretty seriously! Days off work for an eviction op, pee into a bottle doing hole control, 4am wakeup for a cap kill, 30+ hours in the character creator, etc.
Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate | GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog | #420roloswag | Bio |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2731
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:39:00 -
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Don't be shy, we have candy, and exotic dancers. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Paranoid Loyd
844
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:42:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Don't be shy, we have candy, and exotic dancers.
What about socks? Do you have socks? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2731
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:51:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Don't be shy, we have candy, and exotic dancers. What about socks? Do you have socks? I do loyd, I do. I also have 3yold twins and share my pc with my partner so I can see where the op is coming from.
Look at it this way, the only thing one needs grind for in eve is isk, and you don't need to actually grind for that
Go out, shoot people in low sec, make friends, laugh about your failures Make sock puppetsif you like. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Marsha Mallow
1270
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:54:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Wow, and you said -I- was a dirty scrubber.  Was meant as a compliment, one to another >.> Except for the RPing which is scary. I (and another scrubber) tried to RP wookies/lightsabers/ewoks on a SWTOR guild comms during recruitment, because they were being a bit too serious. Didn't end well. They knew we were EvE players and accused us of being Goons. FML.
Erica Dusette wrote:Those alarm clock ops are pretty common in the corps I've been involved with, along with those Jabber pings to your phone. Some folks take their EVE pretty seriously! Days off work for an eviction op, pee into a bottle doing hole control, 4am wakeup for a cap kill, 30+ hours in the character creator, etc. Ye, they don't do that much after you burst out laughing and tell them to do disgusting things with themselves. I'll stay up for ops if I'm drunk and forget the time but not getting out of bed for it, Jesus. Decent groups usually have a cache of 'dedicated' types for that. Fair enough if it's your corp or you're really tight knit, but it does burn people out maintaining that level of attention for long periods.
Whose socks are those purple ones anyway, and why do they have monkeys on em?
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
443
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:57:00 -
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Its not really worth it. EVE is only really worth it of you are part of an established group and play regularly. Not much solo / casual content.
Factional warfare is really for organized small gangs;
RvB is a bunch of bitter vets farming noob players out of boredom;
High sec gets boring rather quickly if you solo |

Lun Garemoko
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:18:00 -
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Korvus Falek wrote:Join RvB or BRAVE. Low committment, low skill needed, invest however much you want.
I hear both are helpful with a person like you =)
Also do that. Or FW. |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
656
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:20:00 -
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What would your wife prefer you do? Hide in a garage and rebuild a big block?
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Comprachicos Pendulum
420 Enterprises.
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:20:00 -
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Honestly, I'm in the same boat. 5-6 hours a week or less. I buy 10frigates , and head to FW space. Soon as I log in, even if it's only 15 minutes before I'm snagged back to being a husband/father, I undock and start dscanning. It can work, depends how you want it to. Sometimes it's a nice treat to come back to eve on weekends to see a new skill trained. |

Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
12301
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:40:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Wow, and you said -I- was a dirty scrubber.  Was meant as a compliment, one to another >.> It's cool yo, I'm down with a bit o' trollin'.
No fun in taking the **** outta myself all the time if others can't too. 
Marsha Mallow wrote:Except for the RPing which is scary. I too am scared each time I watch a movie on TV. 
RP's not such a big deal really. I've been doing it since I was a teenager around tables with dice (and still meet 20 years later for the occasional game with friends), but roleplaying online in MMOs can be so much more immersive.
If you ever need a hand moving past your RP phobia hit me up. I'll help you manage that lightsaber of yours as well as those furry things.
Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate | GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog | #420roloswag | Bio |

Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
4
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:59:00 -
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Recommend less whine
Afraid to commit to a corp, you're being too serious, it's a game.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1159
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:09:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Its not really worth it. EVE is only really worth it of you are part of an established group and play regularly. Not much solo / casual content.
Factional warfare is really for organized small gangs;
RvB is a bunch of bitter vets farming noob players out of boredom;
High sec gets boring rather quickly if you solo
Except for the shitload of casual and solo content, yeah for sure. Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |

Michael Ruckert
SECURE TRANSPORTS
159
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:17:00 -
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OP you have a job, a university degree and are married. Put on your Big Boy pants, stop whining, and Man Up. Your life has changed. Time to adjust to your new priorities. Don't go Millennial on us here. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |

Corven Tereghen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:25:00 -
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Michael Ruckert wrote:OP you have a job, a university degree and are married. Put on your Big Boy pants, stop whining, and Man Up. Your life has changed. Time to adjust to your new priorities. Don't go Millennial on us here. What priorities? Making babies, then arranging my burial plot and will? Marriage, job and education are not mutually exclusive to gaming.
Unless you meant it in the other 'play whatever games you want' way. Which would be awesome. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6219
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:26:00 -
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I think it was a joke about eve online ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
2390
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:47:00 -
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Corven Tereghen wrote:My wife *just* tolerates me being a gamer If playing games is a part of who you are, then maybe she should learn to love it. .. when everything else is gone .. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7754
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:57:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Corven Tereghen wrote:My wife *just* tolerates me being a gamer If playing games is a part of who you are, then maybe she should learn to love it.
I lucked out, I have a gamer wife. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1364
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:21:00 -
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It matters a lot what corp you join. I have a busy life too and while granted, I do not have a wife, I have a thriving social life outside of Eve too, and a 40hr job paying for all that. I once made the mistake of starting a corp, but two years later we're still here, and it seems to go rather well. Perhaps because all of us have a RL-first mentality? Wiffe aggro is a common reason people have to leave a fleet. If the group you are flying with cannot respect this then **** them. It's that simple. |

Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
229
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:41:00 -
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Corven Tereghen wrote: TL;DR: Grown man struggles with real life commitments interfering with playing EVE to a level acceptable to him. Can he play at this level or should he biomass and GTFO?
I have RL issues. A lot of them at the moment. Most people run into stuff sooner or later. At the moment I cant even log on (time) and the majority of my account are going down (money). My current influence on EVE is.... this.
As for the implications of that; I agree with Inxentas.
So thats two corps that can deal with RL already.
I think you'll be fine m8
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2736
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:10:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Its not really worth it. EVE is only really worth it of you are part of an established group and play regularly. Not much solo / casual content.
Factional warfare is really for organized small gangs;
RvB is a bunch of bitter vets farming noob players out of boredom;
High sec gets boring rather quickly if you solo Except for the shitload of casual and solo content, yeah for sure. Yeah, ignore luminous. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Don Purple
Caldari State
290
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:44:00 -
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Corven Tereghen wrote:[whine]
TL;DR: Grown man struggles with real life commitments interfering with playing EVE to a level acceptable to him. Can he play at this level or should he biomass and GTFO?
Not sure if I need a shrink or just a good smack in the jaw, but I have this problem thatGÇÖs bothering me: I wish I could bring myself to play this game for real (ex. joining a corp and fleeting up), but I canGÇÖt.
Half the problem is my outside commitments. My wife *just* tolerates me being a gamer, other games get jealous when I hang out with MMOs, and my job happens to pay for all those games. I feel like those would cut too much out of the commitment needed to be useful in a corp. IGÇÖm not even talking about the herculean levels of commitment that hardcore players have, like logging in at 3am their time to defend a POS coming out of reinforced. IGÇÖm talking about small FW roams and weekend mining ops in 0.5. I donGÇÖt think I can hack it without ditching my wife, cutting work early, and/or making EVE the only game I play.
The other half of the problem is social. I donGÇÖt know a single person who plays this game and all my attempts to encourage my few gaming friends to play have failed. That means I have to find a corp who will surely put meGÇöa relatively experienced player with a new accountGÇöunder a lot of scrutiny for being a possible AWOXer. I was once kicked from a corp on another character for suspicion of being a thief; this made it very hard to join other corps because my only references thought I had stolen their stuff. I donGÇÖt want a repeat performance of that.
The one time I successfully played EVE with a corp, it went from being an empire mining corp to heading up a 0.0 alliance; I played for almost two years before the corp collapsed and it was the greatest time IGÇÖve ever had in game. Back then I was single and living off my university funds; it was easy to play for 6 hours a day if I wanted. Now, every time I try to restart I just end up going it alone and quitting from boredom two months later because IGÇÖm afraid to commit to a corp.
Are my glory days lost to me?
[/whine]
You have a friend in ol Don Purple. I have a wife (tolerates eve) a small child, a full time job and a motorcycle. I find time for all of it. Im in null, wh, and highsec corps. I am just here to snuggle. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
688
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Posted - 2014.07.11 09:12:00 -
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Time is always an issue few ways to remedy it
Time machine so you can go back to eating pickles and playing eve 12+h a day
play at work
work from home
cut work days from 20d a month to 10d
become a rich overnight and similar scenarios...
if none of above.....then deal with it. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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