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Ziester
No Fixed Abode Cult of War
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:23:00 -
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Hi.
I'm returning from quite almost a year break and I'm looking for a new ship do run L4's with. I don't know if they changed a lot regarding missions though so a few pointers would be great.
I just need a ship that's appealing to do them efficiently (as in good isk/hour). I can probably figure out the fitting for myself.
Thx Pop, rock, Metal radio station |
iu'ra
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
7
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:40:00 -
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Rattler |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1014
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:52:00 -
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Ziester wrote:Hi.
I'm returning from quite almost a year break and I'm looking for a new ship do run L4's with. I don't know if they changed a lot regarding missions though so a few pointers would be great.
I just need a ship that's appealing to do them efficiently (as in good isk/hour). I can probably figure out the fitting for myself.
Thx
You didn't say what skills you have about gunnery, missiles, drones, armor, shield, etc... Without that it's kind of a stab in the dark
If you can fly them I would say a Golem or Rattlesnake. |
L4V4
H4LP
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:44:00 -
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Assuming your skilled for Caldari Battleships and missiles..
GçªMORE EXPENSIVE -á-á-á-á-áGå¦-á-á-á-á-á-á-áLESS EXPENSIVEGç¿ GçªLESS DRONE SKILLS Gå¦ MORE DRONE SKILLSGç¿
1: GOLEM 2: RAVEN NAVY ISSUE 3: RATTLESNAKE |
Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
161
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:32:00 -
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Any bloody battleship works in missions aslong it aint some silly ecm boat. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2070
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:58:00 -
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navy raven, golem, rattlesnake. or if you hate missiles (like i do), a rail vindi or kronos will also do fine.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Ziester
No Fixed Abode Cult of War
17
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:09:00 -
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I can fly pretty much every sub-cap combat ship except Amarr, with a full T2 fit Pop, rock, Metal radio station |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1014
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:23:00 -
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Ziester wrote:I can fly pretty much every sub-cap combat ship except Amarr, with a full T2 fit
OP modified
But about Marauders, I'm kinda worried about ECM since a few Caldari missions pack a lot of it iirc. Can MJD and dictating range can overcome that ?
Marauders are immune to ECM in bastion. One of the awesome changes |
Ziester
No Fixed Abode Cult of War
17
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:57:00 -
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I've been using missiles a lot and I feel lke i need a change toward instant damage application.
I put up the following Kronos fit (As an example, tank is against Serpentis). Please let me know if it's ok or if I'm doing it wrong :
http://gyazo.com/c69dc94660a79d86f059adb89da8ab4e
I'm not quite sure about the rigs, they're probably not necessary and maybe I could swap them for Optimal Range ones ? Pop, rock, Metal radio station |
Mooh Bear
Bear and Bear LLC
0
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:41:00 -
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I used a RNI/cruise for a while and it works great. I've switched to a Gila after the Kronos revamp and it's been a blast so far. |
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Realm of God Triple Penetration Empire
5198
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Posted - 2014.07.14 20:07:00 -
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Rattlesnake. The role bonus to sentries makes missions hilariously easy and quick. Plus the Gecko...love the Gecko. Looooooooooooooove the Gecko. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2840
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Posted - 2014.07.14 20:32:00 -
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Get a marauder, just do it. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3322
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:35:00 -
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tngoo Oh god. |
Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:23:00 -
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Golem + Bastion Vargur + Bastion
equals
Dead Guristas
I personally like the vargur over the golem due to the fact there are so many frig-heavy missions. And if you ever relocate to angel space, then you would be in heaven, but gallente space is also a good place for the vargur. BS guristas normally orbits you from 30km to 35km. Well within the "optimal" range of 800 AC IIs. So its all good.
Another advantage of using a vargur over a golem, is that you can live with standard ammo. Im not adverse to using T2 ammo. But using standard over T2 saves me tons of isk while doing 800+ paper dps. Besides, i dont rush missions coz i loot and salvage at the same time, so more isk in the long run.
In the end, its your own choice. Fly what you feel is good for you.
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Gorr Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
5
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:42:00 -
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Gefen Orion wrote:Golem + Bastion Vargur + Bastion
equals
Dead Guristas
I personally like the vargur over the golem due to the fact there are so many frig-heavy missions. And if you ever relocate to angel space, then you would be in heaven, but gallente space is also a good place for the vargur. BS guristas normally orbits you from 30km to 35km. Well within the "optimal" range of 800 AC IIs. So its all good.
Another advantage of using a vargur over a golem, is that you can live with standard ammo. Im not adverse to using T2 ammo. But using standard over T2 saves me tons of isk while doing 800+ paper dps. Besides, i dont rush missions coz i loot and salvage at the same time, so more isk in the long run.
In the end, its your own choice. Fly what you feel is good for you.
Just a side note.. Cannot find it for the life of me but someone actually ran the numbers and Faction Ammo came out being cheaper for marauders in the long run. |
Cyno Saraki
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.07.15 07:33:00 -
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Rattler that does 1500+ dps kin/therm in only T2 fit. That thing is a beast...
Edit: Most skill intensive subcap in the game though. More so than marauders... |
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
The Eleusinian The Imicus Contract
36
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:08:00 -
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Cyno Saraki wrote:Rattler that does 1500+ dps kin/therm in only T2 fit. That thing is a beast...
Edit: Most skill intensive subcap in the game though. More so than marauders... TFI still has it beat in Skills needed :D |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
545
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:28:00 -
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I like having a paladin and machariel combo. I just wish my alt was active so I could properly try the rattlesnake.
paladin (and the nightmare in most cases) is a rather flexible gunboat with great projection, and surprisingly good damage type for caldari space. I got a ton of blood/sansha/drone/merc missions.
mach great dps and goes fast! plus you can swap damage types to compliment the paladin rather well.
golem/cnr I'd mostly just want one so I could semi afk missions with auto-targeting missiles. and the Varg is just slow, add in autocannons and boring! Kronos is pretty nice, I just think the rail damage is a bit low. blaster fit it is pretty awesome, but range is a complaint on some missions. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Akashi Suenobu
Raven's Flight Reconstructed Criticism
2
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Posted - 2014.07.17 15:47:00 -
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Termy Rockling wrote:Any bloody battleship works in missions aslong it aint some silly ecm boat.
I'm a big fan of the MJD sentry domi for missions.
edit: or rather I was, until I could fly a tengu. |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Suddenly Frigates Reconstructed Criticism
122
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:46:00 -
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u have multiple choices.
marauder immune to jamming with bastion great tank slow warpspeeds. Rattlesnake needs alot of sp to pull it off efficiently long warp time but great damage projection and good tank. Raven Navy and Dominix with mjd great applied damage good to great range (Raven Navy can get an 8k alpha and around 900 dps) slow warpspeed Machariel average to good damage application thx tu subwarp speeds, and the fastest warp speed to site
as always take my info with a grain of salt as i havent flown all ships thats just the basic scrabs i got from ppl i know when i havent flown said ship. |
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