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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:09:00 -
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EVE is dying since 2003. Or maybe not.
Lately not a day goes by on the forums without an EVE health exam. Funny thing is, pessimists and optimists draw opposite conclusions from exactly the same data. Subs, PCU, ACU, PLEX prices, suicide gank frequency, nullsec carnage (or lack of it)... so much information, but so little agreement.
Enter the EVE Death-o-meter.
The Economist calculates the Recession index, simply by counting how often the ugly 'R-word' appears on leading newspapers. It seems to be surprisingly accurate at predicting recessions.
So I think somebody should count how often people say 'EVE is dying' on the forums and make some fancy graphs like this one!
Lots of grim posts --> we should start looking for another timesink. Few of them --> all is well, back to the usual forum bs.
I guess Chribba could easily do this with his epic database-fu? Or is there a sociology student looking for a good excuse to play EVE while 'carrying out innovative research'?
What do you think the EVE Death-o-meter would look like, from 2003 to now? |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:37:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:The world did end....but just for him lol. This made me LOL. 
Quote:It would be funny as all hell if EVE was around in 50 years when most of us are actually dead (well, most of you guys, I'll be a robot by then). This made me touch my own balls.  |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:16:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Anyway, to base any assumptions of the health of the game on how many times "EVE is dying" is being said is ridiculous by itself. More often than not, the phrase is used as sarcasm and will be interpreted wrongly by any automated statistics system Would still be obviously working as intended.
Pok Nibin wrote:EVE will have died when we no longer have electricity to run it. It's beastly that way. Amen, brother. |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:08:00 -
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Chribba wrote:There's so much poking (indirect) of me in this thread I don't know what's going on - but if there's request for data that I have, feel free to do so, a bit more specified as to what data you wish to see and I will do my best to provide it.
/c Hey thanks for kindly appearing, Your Veldsparness!
Would it be possible to know how many times the phrase 'EVE is dying' was written on the EVE-O forums, for as far back in time as you can go, with monthly (or weekly or daily, whatever is easier) totals?
Something like:
June 2014 - 502 times May 2014 - 657 times April 2014 - 432 times ... ...
etc? |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:48:00 -
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Chribba, that is so awesome I'm crying!
Thank you so much! |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:56:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yarda Black wrote:So lets see the graph then Gully :) hes had the numbers like 10 mins, give the man some time. :)
I'm also eating atm and, while I do have some excel-fu, I have no idea how to share the results... :(
But I'll do my best, if anyone beats me to it it's fine with me.
I'll give a first comment: EVE is dying since 2008, apparently, NOT since 2003!
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:14:00 -
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The EVE Death-o-meter is now available for your shiptoasting pleasure!
OP has been edited, too. |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 20:31:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:That's the issue. You have no real reason why things are as they are. EvE will die when ccp announces it on the dev blogs. till then, why worry? shut up, and play the damn game we all like. And if you don't like eve then why are you still here? Hey, don't shoot me, I'm just counting words here.
Matter of fact, with your post you just added 6 units of 'eve is dying' to the July Death-o-meter. Talk about self-fulfilling prophecies! |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:33:00 -
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rogue Aldebaran wrote:The flaw with this tool that I see. You are basing yourself on the Recession word theory and trying to apply it to Eve's forums. In RL, nobody can really escape the economy (good or bad) so the economists will always comment on it. In Eve, people that no longer play the game cannot come on the forums to say the magic "Eve is dying" words. You cannot post when you are unsubbed, so for sure your numbers wont mean much. Specially if you have a few thousand people that left the game like it feels atm. When you no longer play a game, you don't really care about it anyways and most ex-players wont bother comment about it! Here you go, I just ganked your new toy !! Next time be aligned and fit a tank!  (Just kidding bro...no hard feelings) Wouldn't that be equivalent to a business journalist ragequitting the New York Times to start a bar in Playa del Carmen? His opinion would be no longer noteworthy, except regarding margaritas. |

Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2014.07.14 22:34:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I motion that we should declare July 30th an official holiday in honor of the first "Eve is Dying" post nearly eleven years ago! Please submit suggestions for the holiday name in this thread. Starving Madox Day?
On I side note, I regret not being around 11 years ago, the forums were quite spunky. A few select quotes from that thread:
a single sticky message on the forum saying we apologise for the 4 hour downtime and maybe an explination of why it took twice as long as advertised, would not go amiss. People can generally forgive mistakes, but only if an apology is made.
I am sorry. I will not manhandle your girlfriend again while drunk. Though she did snog me first !!!!!!!!
Yes, they should bow down to your feet, kiss them, and then move up to your ass.. What kind of richious stick do you have up your butt?
we are the customers here. we are paying for a service. we have every right to question what is going on. now granted, isk refunds for missed productivity and asking for some sort of public appology that all the devs signed is just plain silly. however, a dev CAN take 35 seconds out of their busy schedule and make a small post on the devblog letting the paying customers know what is going on. *eve is dying*
I can only assume that since you actually noticed or care how long the downtime is that you are either A) a REALLY dediated trader who gets up in the pre-dawn hours to be on when downtime is done or B) Live in europe and dont have a job (why else would you be home in the middle of the day to notice the downtime was extended).
if you really miss the 2 hours send me your bank account and I'll reward you personally for your lost 2 hours which makes 13$/30day/24h*2h=0.0361 CENT wow, thats a big one, make it 4 cents, I'll gladly pay, now shut up and stop whing about a normal thing like server maintainance.
Once school is back in session alot of these whining elementary kids will not be noticing the downtime as they will be learing how to do long division.
I wonder if Farting could be a viable form of space travel ?????? EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
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