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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:34:00 -
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Most Likely. The reason for this is that those taps and that grouting cost real-world moolah... any transfer of EVE characters must be done for isk and isk only.
EDIT: Chribba beat me. I feel sad inside now :P |
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:41:00 -
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Lachra wrote:Well, in my little world RMT relates to paying money for unfair advantage in-game either for ISK / assets. Why would CCP care who logs in behind the keyboard if the mechanics of the game are unaffected. That's like saying if my father sat behind the keyboard whilst I was playing EVE and I went to get a cup o' tea, I'm eligible for the banhammer. Thanks dad...
Actually the two situations are completely different. RMT involves one person selling an in-game item (yes, characters can be considered an item or asset) for something of real world value. You letting your dad play on your account (provided you logged yourself in and he doesn't know the password) is not a bannable offense nor would CCP know that you had done so. With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question.
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:43:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... Is the plumber your identical twin?
Do i want to know where this is leading? |
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:46:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:Blobskillz McBlub wrote:Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... well and now CCP has your IP adress and will swiftly ban the account I gave my plumber the laptop for the ensuite upstairs! Dont know why.. the question popped into my head. I just figured RMT was mining tech goo for a year and selling it all for CASH. I dont know if RMT encompass intellectual property or a favour. I gave my Paladin to my friend for shouting dinner for me and the missus at a west end restaurant.. Sounds absurd that this could be against the EULA... yet technically it is...
It's not absurd. In-game assets (which include characters) MUST be sold for ISK ONLY! They can never have a real world equivalent in exchange for them. Even with plex, once you buy it, you can't sell it for real money.
Lachra wrote:dustonio wrote:With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question. How would they know that the account has been transferred, however? if it was my job to see if characters are being subject to RMT, what would be the identifying factors if there was nothing on record? I have no idea who's behind the keyboard at a given moment.
In reply to your question, they would know simply by the different IP address as well as the fact that it's been proven that certain system data relating to your network card and setup is sent to CCP. One such piece of info is the MAC Address or Physical Hardware address of your network card. Say for example you only logged in from one public ip with 5 different mac addresses or rather computers. Then you all of a sudden change IPs AND only login from a completely different mac address. They can then assume if none of the other mac addresses login for a certain length of time, that the account was transferred in violation of the EULA. |
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? The fact that RMT isn't limited to money but all forms of out-of-game goods and services. Or, to quote the old GM post, GÇ£The only out-of-game services that may be sold for ISK are directly EVE related web services, such as killboard hosting, ventrilo/teamspeak servers, corporation website hosting, and such. No, you may not get your mate to wash your car for ISK, even if he will wear a EVE t-shirt in the process.GÇ¥ Trading your character, being an EVE asset, follows the same logic.
Thank you... you sir, are a saint who explained it better than i. |
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