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Robert Sawyer
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:04:00 -
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Let us discuss the origin point of Goonswarm. Goonswarm players originated from a hellhole called the Something Awful forums, a beautiful place of trolls, dicks, cyber hobgoblins and so on. Somewhere in 2006 they migrated to EVE Online with only one purpose: wreck the game. Goonswarm quickly started gaining support and, eventually, became Goonswarm Federation. By the time of 2009, Band Of Brothers (BoB), the most powerful alliance at the time, perceived the Federation as a threat, thus beginning the Great Wars. There were two Wars in total. During the first one, BoB and GSF both fought ferociously to kill each other, but the First War ended in a bloody stalemate. By the time of the Second War, GSF had gained the upper hand in the conflict, and more and more corporations broke off to join the Federation, including alliances such as the Northern Coalition. When the end of the Great Wars drew near, the Chairman of BoB himself disbanded the alliance, stating the following: "I like their system better". After these events, the remnants of the BoB were waging a losing war with the titanic forces of the GSF. They suffered an utter defeat, and Band of Brothers bit the dust. Nowadays, Goonswarm and other influential alliances have forged themselves into one, fearless organization: Clusterf*ck Coalition (AKA CFC).
So, I have my own reasons to dislike the Goons. They originate from the lowest scum of the Internet, and most of them still act like that. They have a special talent of making you dislike the game. Example: I was out mining in nullsec when this Goon comes in a Sabre and blows up my ship. "No neutrals on Goonswarm turf", he said. Strange thing was that we were 48 jumps away from the GSF's borders. Second of all, they have absolutely no moral principles and no sense of reason. A friend of mine lost his Rhea to a Goonswarm suicide gank. "Why would they gank you? Your hold was empty", I asked. I heard about more and more disturbing events about the Goons, and I have come to the conclusion that they are people that you do not want to waste your time talking with. |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
41
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:11:00 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote:Let us discuss the origin point of Goonswarm. Goonswarm players originated from a hellhole called the Something Awful forums, a beautiful place of trolls, dicks, cyber hobgoblins and so on. Somewhere in 2006 they migrated to EVE Online with only one purpose: wreck the game. Goonswarm quickly started gaining support and, eventually, became Goonswarm Federation. By the time of 2009, Band Of Brothers (BoB), the most powerful alliance at the time, perceived the Federation as a threat, thus beginning the Great Wars. There were two Wars in total. During the first one, BoB and GSF both fought ferociously to kill each other, but the First War ended in a bloody stalemate. By the time of the Second War, GSF had gained the upper hand in the conflict, and more and more corporations broke off to join the Federation, including alliances such as the Northern Coalition. When the end of the Great Wars drew near, the Chairman of BoB himself disbanded the alliance, stating the following: "I like their system better". After these events, the remnants of the BoB were waging a losing war with the titanic forces of the GSF. They suffered an utter defeat, and Band of Brothers bit the dust. Nowadays, Goonswarm and other influential alliances have forged themselves into one, fearless organization: Clusterf*ck Coalition (AKA CFC).
So, I have my own reasons to dislike the Goons. They originate from the lowest scum of the Internet, and most of them still act like that. They have a special talent of making you dislike the game. Example: I was out mining in nullsec when this Goon comes in a Sabre and blows up my ship. "No neutrals on Goonswarm turf", he said. Strange thing was that we were 48 jumps away from the GSF's borders. Second of all, they have absolutely no moral principles and no sense of reason. A friend of mine lost his Rhea to a Goonswarm suicide gank. "Why would they gank you? Your hold was empty", I asked. I heard about more and more disturbing events about the Goons, and I have come to the conclusion that they are people that you do not want to waste your time talking with. no you're wrong |

Logan PewPew
Crazy Bird Inc. Caldari Armed Forces.
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:17:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:stuff no you're wrong
and provides no reasons as to why. |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
41
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:23:00 -
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Logan PewPew wrote:Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:stuff no you're wrong and provides no reasons as to why. he's wrong |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Realm of God Triple Penetration Empire
5198
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:29:00 -
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Chiimera wrote:Just because an entity uses a homosexual reference to define something as having a negative connotation it doesn't mean they are homophobic it just means that they have a very limited vocabulary and have wrongly used a noun.
Goonswarm and the greater CFC are one of the most caring and accepting groups I have ever been a proud member of. I personally know and have helped and counselled other members of our coalition who are dealing with their sexuality and it's offensive for you to make these completely untrue allegations.
While I don't condone the use of Gay, ******, ***, Poofter, Lezbo or Carpet Muncher as a negative connotation you are trying to link two very separate things. It is unfortunate that most of us grew up learning these things and carrying them onto adulthood.
So how about you try being an adult, stop being a **** and stop lighting fires because you got shat on for being a tool.
Yep, sounds like a good caring group to me. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19648
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:35:00 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote:Let us discuss the origin point of Goonswarm. Goonswarm players originated from a hellhole called the Something Awful forums, a beautiful place of trolls, dicks, cyber hobgoblins and so on. Somewhere in 2006 they migrated to EVE Online with only one purpose: wreck the game. Nope they came here to wreck your game, there's no point in them killing a game that they clearly enjoy.
Quote:Example: I was out mining in nullsec when this Goon comes in a Sabre and blows up my ship. "No neutrals on Goonswarm turf", he said. Strange thing was that we were 48 jumps away from the GSF's borders. Second of all, they have absolutely no moral principles and no sense of reason. You were in nullsec, he didn't need an excuse to blow you up, that he claimed you were on goonswarms turf is irrelevant.
Quote:A friend of mine lost his Rhea to a Goonswarm suicide gank. "Why would they gank you? Your hold was empty", I asked. Because it might not have been empty is as good an excuse as any, odds are that a JF is carrying something valuable.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |

Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
325
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:06:00 -
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This reminds me of something.
All black people are drug dealers. All jews are rich. All -10 pilots are bad people. All priests "love" children.
OP should be banned. - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:14:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:This reminds me of something.
All black people are drug dealers. All jews are rich. All -10 pilots are bad people. All priests "love" children.
OP should be banned. i think op meant that goonswarm has created a bunch of homophobic and racist material that they appear to be completely unapologetic about, not that every single goon is a nasty bigot. that doesn't make the thread any better, because it still seems to be less concerned with pointing out bigotry than it is with stirring up drama |

Mortlake
161
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:24:00 -
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This thread is fundamentally anus. |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
868
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:37:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote: goonswarm has created a bunch of homophobic and racist material that they appear to be completely unapologetic about
So what? Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
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Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:41:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Nathaniel Raynaud wrote: goonswarm has created a bunch of homophobic and racist material that they appear to be completely unapologetic about So what? it must be cool to be colossally unaware of how people that aren't white or straight feel about things |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
870
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:48:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Nathaniel Raynaud wrote: goonswarm has created a bunch of homophobic and racist material that they appear to be completely unapologetic about So what? it must be cool to be colossally unaware of how people that aren't white or straight feel about things
See, the point is, I dont CARE. You do what you want, ill do what I want. Goons do what Goons do.
Do you really think anyone gives a flying phucc what you do in your bedroom or what color you are?
And who says I am white?? That seems pretty stereotypical to me.
Racist. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:54:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote: it must be cool to be colossally unaware of how people that aren't white or straight feel about things
See, the point is, I dont CARE. You do what you want, ill do what I want. Goons do what Goons do.
Do you really think anyone gives a flying phucc what you do in your bedroom or what color you are?
And who says I am white?? That seems pretty stereotypical to me.
Racist.[/quote] c'mon only white people ever say things like that
thank you for taking the brave stance of not caring about bigotry. other people may care enough to do or say really nasty things to racial minorities or homosexuals, but your choice to ignore it because it does not directly affect you is really great and worthy of appreciation |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
871
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:06:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Leto Thule wrote: See, the point is, I dont CARE. You do what you want, ill do what I want. Goons do what Goons do.
Do you really think anyone gives a flying phucc what you do in your bedroom or what color you are?
And who says I am white?? That seems pretty stereotypical to me.
Racist.
c'mon only white people ever say things like that thank you for taking the brave stance of not caring about bigotry. other people may care enough to do or say really nasty things to racial minorities or homosexuals, but your choice to ignore it because it does not directly affect you is really great and worthy of appreciation
I dont think you understand.
There is no reason for me (or anyone) to champion causes I have no stake in. Why would I care if someone said "really nasty things" to ANYONE (minorities, postmen, landscapers, the guy who cleans the gutters on your roof)?
Unless someone is physically hurting you, try taking advice from the old children's rhyme... sticks and stones.... ect.
Edit: More to the point... this is a GAME, and bulllshit real world crybaby issues about everyone who wants recognition for being a Gay/Straight black indian transgender cephlapoid with your own special little corner in a book somewhere because you dont want your feelings hurt and blah blah has NO PLACE in here. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:09:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Leto Thule wrote: See, the point is, I dont CARE. You do what you want, ill do what I want. Goons do what Goons do.
Do you really think anyone gives a flying phucc what you do in your bedroom or what color you are?
And who says I am white?? That seems pretty stereotypical to me.
Racist.
c'mon only white people ever say things like that thank you for taking the brave stance of not caring about bigotry. other people may care enough to do or say really nasty things to racial minorities or homosexuals, but your choice to ignore it because it does not directly affect you is really great and worthy of appreciation I dont think you understand. There is no reason for me (or anyone) to champion causes I have no stake in. Why would I care if someone said "really nasty things" to ANYONE (minorities, postmen, landscapers, the guy who cleans the gutters on your roof)? Unless someone is physically hurting you, try taking advice from the old children's rhyme... sticks and stones.... ect. video game forums aren't really the place to start lecturing people on oppression so... just start off by googling "empathy" and see where that takes you |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
871
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:11:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote: Oprah/ Dr. Phil content and then:
video game forums aren't really the place to start lecturing people on oppression so... just start off by googling "empathy" and see where that takes you
Again, dont care. Its a game. About blowing up spaceships. As far as I can tell, space ships dont have sexuality, and the only races in the game have no affect on the gameplay.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:13:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote: Again, dont care. Its a game. About blowing up spaceships. As far as I can tell, space ships dont have sexuality, and the only races in the game have no affect on the gameplay.
space game players do have those things but whatever, this was a bad derail in an already bad thread so let's just be done with it |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
871
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:15:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Leto Thule wrote: Again, dont care. Its a game. About blowing up spaceships. As far as I can tell, space ships dont have sexuality, and the only races in the game have no affect on the gameplay.
space game players do have those things but whatever, this was a bad derail in an already bad thread so let's just be done with it
Eh.
/agree Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
60
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:01:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:News flash:
Racism isnt illegal.
Homophobia isnt illegal. .
**** you're right, brb starting a career as a lobbyist/political activist |

Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Wreckless.
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:09:00 -
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Lerking and watching this thread unfold. Much potential. |
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Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
47
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:16:00 -
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is anyone else wondering how much op is starting to regret this |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
877
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:31:00 -
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Zero Sum Gain wrote:Leto Thule wrote:News flash:
Racism isnt illegal.
Homophobia isnt illegal. . **** you're right, brb starting a career as a lobbyist/political activist
Do you have any idea how much those guys make?
Talk about bulllshit!!
I mean, we do the same thing on the forums all day (argue about pointless crap) and we dont get paid!! WTF! Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Logan PewPew
Crazy Bird Inc. Caldari Armed Forces.
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:33:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Zero Sum Gain wrote:Leto Thule wrote:News flash:
Racism isnt illegal.
Homophobia isnt illegal. . **** you're right, brb starting a career as a lobbyist/political activist Do you have any idea how much those guys make? Talk about bulllshit!! I mean, we do the same thing on the forums all day (argue about pointless crap) and we dont get paid!! WTF!
But to become a lobbyist you have to already know everyone in the industry.
Politics is like a family reunion in the deep south so incestuous and inbred that anyone without a severe overbite and Tay-Sachs Syndrome is considered an outsider. |

Lakz
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:37:00 -
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All hail the great and powerful Lowtax in all his goony glory |

FOl2TY8
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:43:00 -
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i'm straight and white and i'm gonna oppress the hell out of you gaylords |

Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
47
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:46:00 -
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Lakz wrote:All hail the great and powerful Lowtax in all his goony glory has lowtax married that shmorky person yet or are they still engaged
also;FOl2TY8 wrote:i'm straight and white and i'm gonna oppress the hell out of you gaylords no you're not |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
878
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:46:00 -
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FOl2TY8 wrote:i'm straight and white and i'm gonna oppress the hell out of you gaylords
Damn it, you did it wrong.
Its now "SWGTHAOD".
(Straight White Guy That Hates All Other Demographics)
Dont Fhuck up the acronym landslide. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Eyrun Mangeiri
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:48:00 -
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This thread is going places. I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song. |

Lakz
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:49:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:Lakz wrote:All hail the great and powerful Lowtax in all his goony glory has lowtax married that shmorky person yet or are they still engaged
I think shmorky got a sex change (MtF) and they are working on those whole "married" thing
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:51:00 -
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We're actually somewhat apologetic about the state of our wiki articles, not because we're worried about offending people but because their attempts to sound 'edgy' are somewhat juvenile and embarrassing in retrospect. The word retrospect is important, though, because a lot of those were written years ago when the Internet was a very different place and never updated because we're criminally lazy and why bother rewriting the old wiki when we're gonna move everything over to Confluence this year guys for real. |
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