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Trioxis
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:23:00 -
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I'm not new to this game nor mission running, but I've heard people say they got faction loot from missions, and that in high-sec even. I've been doing lvl 3's for quite a while now, I'm not ready to do lvl 4's yet... skillwise, but as far as my experience goes, I've never ever had a faction item from any mission at all.
This all makes me wonder, are the people just talking rubbish or CAN you get faction loot from missions? If this is true, I'd pretty much want to know what I do wrong. 
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Bluestealth
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:35:00 -
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Yes but rarely.
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Dread Blah
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Posted - 2006.07.01 18:17:00 -
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Loot is a frustrating thing.
All the other guys get the good stuff ....
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Kelso Bluebane
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Posted - 2006.07.01 18:23:00 -
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theres a minute chance of a faction loot drop in the gone beserk mission, from a faction cruiser
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Mortelli
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Posted - 2006.07.01 19:26:00 -
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I've been running L3 & L4s in >0.4 space for a while now and haven't gotten any faction loot. So if it does drop, it's pretty rare.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.07.01 19:58:00 -
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1 Mission(Going Beserk) has a small possibility of spawning a ship that has a chance of dropping faction items.
See why its rare?
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Amiren
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:30:00 -
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there are a few missions, where you can get faction loot, allthought the chance is very rare to get an officer spawn...
Gone Beserk The Assault Blockade Worlds Collide Extravaganza Bonusstage Overseer¦s structure (not worth the risk if you ask me)
doing lvl 4s in 0.3 since a year, an in those missions i already got faction loot... _________________________ ---CEO Balanced Unity---
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Trillian Mcmillan
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Posted - 2006.07.01 23:19:00 -
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I can confirm a Dread Guristas BS spawn and faction loot drop in a LVL 4 "Blockade" in secure space.
But... I have done hundreds of missions and this has happened only once.
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Temel Nosce
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:04:00 -
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I can also confirm, I've been running lvl3 and lvl4 missions in a 0.4 system for about 2 months. I've had a ton of named items drop of course, its been very profitable. I have had 1 faction item drop in all that time. Domination Shield Boost Amplifier, goes for about 30mil on escrow. I still haven't sold it, been meaning to try it out once before I do. :)
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Alistaire Mirabel
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trillian Mcmillan I can confirm a Dread Guristas BS spawn and faction loot drop in a LVL 4 "Blockade" in secure space.
But... I have done hundreds of missions and this has happened only once.
Missions are buggered, I had this happen to me 4 times in a row. 4 blockades and all 4 times a 6 mill SS rat spawned, all 4 times got faction loot at about 200 mill worth total. This will probably mean I will never get a faction rat in a mission as long as i live.
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GPerson
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:43:00 -
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Again, I can confirm that this does happen on the blockade mission, albeit rarely. I know, because I've stolen the faction stuff from mission runners before. 
(No, I wasn't in a mwding nano'd frig, I was in a real, combat worthy ship.) ~ |

Firequill
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Posted - 2006.07.02 03:30:00 -
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yup, it happens... nve gotten .. hmmm let me think.. In total.. A whopping 200 units of shadow-serp iron-charges!! 
im not bitter at all.. I promise..
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.07.02 03:44:00 -
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WC 4 - DG Shield Amp + SS Hardners from Overseers
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.02 07:36:00 -
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All i've ever got is 100 Gurista iron charges.
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Gr0n0s
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Posted - 2006.07.02 07:54:00 -
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all i know is that you can get an officer in the " gone berserk " mision or "the mordu headhunters " mision and you can also c if you wil get an officer @ the last wave
just check how many npc,s you get in the first wave the normal 1 sais you have to kill 5 npc,s ( with gone berserk) but with the officer spawn in the last wave there are only 4 in the first wave you have to kill so thats how you can c if you get an officer spawn in the last wave normal= 5 in first wave officer= 4 in first wave
i gess it will be somthing simular with the mordu headhunters i personaly had that 1 time but dident drop any faction loot
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.02 09:36:00 -
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with that last comment i can confirm 5 in first wave = officer spawn 90% of the time 4 in first spawn no uber one
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Shiraz Merlot
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Posted - 2006.07.02 10:41:00 -
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Many of you are confusing Officers (e.g. Estamel, Hakim) with Commanders (Dread Guristas, True Sanshas). They're two different classes of NPC. There are only a very small number of Officers per pirate faction (I think it might be four per faction), and I've never seen an officer outside of a 0.0 belt spawn.
Officers drop truly shiny stuff that is often the best-in-game; Commanders drop quite shiny stuff that is often better than T2.
If anyone sees an Officer (not just a commander with a name, like Zor, but a ranking pirate faction officer) in a deadspace mission, please take a screenshot.
FYI they should exist in the command staff listing of the pirate faction in question e.g. Guristas officers are all listed here.
/sm
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:32:00 -
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I just noticed that Estamel is a L3 Q-2 agent.
Sure drops nice loot for a mission runner!
There are 4 officers for each pirate faction. They have massive bounties, but the bounties are insignificant compared to the value of the loot they drop. An officer can easily drop in excess of 1 billion of loot.
Needless to say they are very rare, they appear in asteroid belts, in the same way that normal rats, T2 rats (Dire Guristas, Sansha's Loyal etc), Commanders (Dark Blood, Shadow Serpentis, etc), and haulers appear.
They all fly battleships, and have an escort.
They're significantly tougher than normal rats, but not overwhelmingly. If you can handle the rats you can handle the officers, pretty much. Although the only officer I've found, Kaikka, orbits at 50Km with a very nice tank. My Apocalypse struggled a bit with that, and officers cannot be webbed. So I had to get a hauler in to ram Kaikka until I caught up and got him in optimal.
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Giant Haystacks
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Posted - 2006.07.02 12:33:00 -
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On one of the first lvl 2 missions I did I got a low grade snake delta from a shadow serp frig, done plenty of missions since but not found anything else.
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.07.02 22:59:00 -
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How exactly does faction loot get into Worlds Collide? Deadspace rat commanders don't drop ****... --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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Lickety
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Posted - 2006.07.02 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar How exactly does faction loot get into Worlds Collide? Deadspace rat commanders don't drop ****...
Just had a Serpentis Overseer spawn last night during WC. 3.75mil rat, dropped a Snake Gamma, a Shadow Serpentis Energized Magnetic Membrane (or something like that), Shadow Serp Crystal Tag, and 1000 rounds of faction large hybrid ammo (don't remember which).
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MuffinsRevenger
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Posted - 2006.07.02 23:45:00 -
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the overseer in WC seems to be random, and some people seem to be lucky
i allways get crap from that thing :D
Originally by: The Wizz117 jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.
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343Guiltyspark
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Posted - 2006.07.03 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amiren
Extravaganza Bonusstage Overseer¦s structure (not worth the risk if you ask me)
I did this and got no faction loot. I'll never do it again. Lost a Raven the first time I tried it on level 4.
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:52:00 -
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Odd but I keep finding named ship captains of frigate and above all the way to BS. Right now there is a Arch Angel intercepter named Garin Kezmonu in the rats I am fighting in my angle extrav mission. And all of them, like this one, are never listed in the corp roster on the sight that I can find. NONE of them ever drop good loot. Anyway, just thought it was odd.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.03 08:51:00 -
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u get the regular named one on missions nah the special named officers are 0.0 only afaik
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Atjuma Zhi
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:27:00 -
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I dont remember exact name of the bs. It was Shadow serpentis for sure, drops only faction ammo. So if there is chance of faction spawn then you have a chance of faction loot.
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CaptainOkuna
New Generetion New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.10.09 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: CaptainOkuna on 09/10/2006 12:15:11 I got my first FACTION loot at the weekend - a DG Thermal Shield Amp. Gonna save it for my 0.0 ferox when I have gotten BC and Shield Compensations skills up to L5.
It was from the Bonus Stage of Guristas Extravaganza. First time, did it with 0 warp outs to boot (yes I know it is somewhat easier than AE).
So to clarify:
If I want FACTION loot, I must do the various L4 missions that have such loot. Can I get them anywhere else (like low sec DED's) etc?
If I want OFFICER loot, I must go 0.0 ratting. I was told once that officer rats appear more just after downtime. Any truth in this?
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Dant Kramble
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:15:00 -
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Lol, first lvl 3 storyline mission I did,
Picked up a Domi Stasis Webber - sold it for 115m
Now it seems that used up all my luck...
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Rakeris
Legio VIII
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:40:00 -
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I've got a couple faction items, one from a SL mission a DB Exp membrain, and a Dread Guristas Small SB from the Guristas extra bonus. I've done the bonus a number of times and only ever got one faction item. =\
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:57:00 -
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A while back I decided to give mission running for Quafe a try, since I heard they give out free Quafe to missioners and I like the taste, canÆt get enough of the stuff actually. So I polished up my diplomatic skills a little and managed to get some work from a level 1 agent there. On one of the few missions I did for them I got a commander frig with an insane bounty for a level 1, around 100k or so I think. It dropped 1000 Shadow Tungsten Charge S.
I soon thereafter returned to furthering the goals of the Empire, and although both Quafe Co and my level 1 agent there retain some respect for me, my repeated slaughtering of their Gallentean kin has forced them to deny me any further work. That one commander in a level 1 mission has been the only faction drop IÆve gotten in a mission.
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