Originally by: Lord Aradon

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aye, i think we gave it a good shot, and in my opinion the ref did a bad job, portugal trying to play football on their backs didnt help things either but what can i say, hats off to ricardo, he put portugal through no arguments

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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aye, i think we gave it a good shot, and in my opinion the ref did a bad job, portugal trying to play football on their backs didnt help things either but what can i say, hats off to ricardo, he put portugal through no arguments

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That has been the best ref's so far, perfect calls. But I guess you have to blame the ref cause you cant play football

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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aye, i think we gave it a good shot, and in my opinion the ref did a bad job, portugal trying to play football on their backs didnt help things either but what can i say, hats off to ricardo, he put portugal through no arguments

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That has been the best ref's so far, perfect calls. But I guess you have to blame the ref cause you cant play football

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whatever mate, ive never tried to say i can play football, but the ref made a lot of bad calls in that match, and if you look at replays of rooney getting sent off he only decided to send him off when he pushed ronaldo

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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aye, i think we gave it a good shot, and in my opinion the ref did a bad job, portugal trying to play football on their backs didnt help things either but what can i say, hats off to ricardo, he put portugal through no arguments

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That has been the best ref's so far, perfect calls. But I guess you have to blame the ref cause you cant play football

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whatever mate, ive never tried to say i can play football, but the ref made a lot of bad calls in that match, and if you look at replays of rooney getting sent off he only decided to send him off when he pushed ronaldo

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Originally by: The Armin

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Props to Hargreaves who played a very good match.

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Originally by: The Armin

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Edited by: The Armin on 01/07/2006 17:58:13
In 2 years its our time. We haven't been good at all this world cup. New coach, new impulses.

I still can't believe that both Fat Frank and Stevie G missed though, the two of them was the only ones on my list as 100% sure scorers :(

Props to Hargreaves who played a very good match.

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Originally by: Skogul

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Originally by: The Armin

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Edited by: The Armin on 01/07/2006 17:58:13
In 2 years its our time. We haven't been good at all this world cup. New coach, new impulses.

I still can't believe that both Fat Frank and Stevie G missed though, the two of them was the only ones on my list as 100% sure scorers :(

Props to Hargreaves who played a very good match.

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I can easily believe both of them missed because both of them have been a disgrace in this world cup. If anyone ever calls them world class again i will puke.

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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aye, i think we gave it a good shot, and in my opinion the ref did a bad job, portugal trying to play football on their backs didnt help things either but what can i say, hats off to ricardo, he put portugal through no arguments

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That has been the best ref's so far, perfect calls. But I guess you have to blame the ref cause you cant play football

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Originally by: Treyanis

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Originally by: Lord Aradon

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aye, i think we gave it a good shot, and in my opinion the ref did a bad job, portugal trying to play football on their backs didnt help things either but what can i say, hats off to ricardo, he put portugal through no arguments

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That has been the best ref's so far, perfect calls. But I guess you have to blame the ref cause you cant play football

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The guy gave a valid opinion, and all you can think of is laying in to him IMO though, Rooney did deserve the card. It's that damned scouse temper surfacing again; he should have thought about the rest of the team before flying into a strop.

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Originally by: The Gate

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Even when rooney went off england played so much better for the entire game than portugal did. Also rooney didn't deserve to get sent off for that tiny push against ronaldo (who deserves it). England easily deserved to win

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Originally by: Demio Olaron

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Originally by: The Gate

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Even when rooney went off england played so much better for the entire game than portugal did. Also rooney didn't deserve to get sent off for that tiny push against ronaldo (who deserves it). England easily deserved to win

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Umm, he literally stepped into a Portuguese player's balls, after stepping on a portuguese player's foot. And after he did all that he dared to push the portuguese players around.

It was a well deserved red

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Originally by: Jebidus Skari

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Goodbye England now do your country proud and riot the night away

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Originally by: The Gate

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Originally by: Demio Olaron

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Originally by: The Gate

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Even when rooney went off england played so much better for the entire game than portugal did. Also rooney didn't deserve to get sent off for that tiny push against ronaldo (who deserves it). England easily deserved to win

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Umm, he literally stepped into a Portuguese player's balls, after stepping on a portuguese player's foot. And after he did all that he dared to push the portuguese players around.

It was a well deserved red

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That portugal player was pulling him down ffs, he deserved to get kicked in the balls the bunch of divers. Slight breeze and they fall to the ground.

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and you didnt try to dive for a penalty after a good tackle by portual? never seen a team so far that doesnt dive.

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Originally by: Magic Trev

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"fact is england were poor through out the tournament, didnt play well tonight and deservedly went out"

been poor not really, not at our best but not poor during the whole tournament.

and today if anybody "deserved to go out" it was portugal a few of their palyers were very unsporting particularly ronaldo and didnt have the ability to beat a 10 man team without their captain. however ricardo had an immense game and put them through, fair enough to him.

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Originally by: In4r4

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England are a good team, with good players, "world class" is thrown about to easily now a days, and with teh exception of gerrad you dont have any world class players

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: In4r4

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England are a good team, with good players, "world class" is thrown about to easily now a days, and with teh exception of gerrad you dont have any world class players

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wtb: whatever your smoking England with the managereal team should be able to compeate with the best teams in the world

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Originally by: Spartan239

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@Jebidus, assuming your German I hope you get nocked out yes you played better agaisnt Argentina but the ref was your 12th man

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Originally by: In4r4

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: In4r4

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England are a good team, with good players, "world class" is thrown about to easily now a days, and with teh exception of gerrad you dont have any world class players

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wtb: whatever your smoking England with the managereal team should be able to compeate with the best teams in the world

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compete yes of course, i already said england have a good side, but so did spain and argentina and many other nation that are now sadly out. The media in the UK built the team up as simply already winners, I believe England have 1 world class player 2-3 very very good players and some meh players, and look at your bench not 1 player on it you would bring on to change a game now was there, It was a typically English campaign, build yourselves up to be world beaters and ***** and moan when you fail as usual

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Originally by: In4r4

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: In4r4

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England are a good team, with good players, "world class" is thrown about to easily now a days, and with teh exception of gerrad you dont have any world class players

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wtb: whatever your smoking England with the managereal team should be able to compeate with the best teams in the world

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compete yes of course, i already said england have a good side, but so did spain and argentina and many other nation that are now sadly out. The media in the UK built the team up as simply already winners, I believe England have 1 world class player 2-3 very very good players and some meh players, and look at your bench not 1 player on it you would bring on to change a game now was there, It was a typically English campaign, build yourselves up to be world beaters and ***** and moan when you fail as usual

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Were you watching the same match!? The lad was superb!

England were cheated, same as always.

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Were you watching the same match!? The lad was superb!

England were cheated, same as always.

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Cheated how, yes Rooneys red was harsh but the blame lies in the worst manager in the tournament

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Were you watching the same match!? The lad was superb!

England were cheated, same as always.

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Cheated how, yes Rooneys red was harsh but the blame lies in the worst manager in the tournament

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Endless Portugese diving, making JC take the penalty again. Rooney deservedly got the red card of course.

Its time to introduce a second off pitch video referee, I'm getting sick of this endless diving from all parties.

It's got to the point where its making the game worse to watch.

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Were you watching the same match!? The lad was superb!

England were cheated, same as always.

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Cheated how, yes Rooneys red was harsh but the blame lies in the worst manager in the tournament

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Endless Portugese diving, making JC take the penalty again. Rooney deservedly got the red card of course.

Its time to introduce a second off pitch video referee, I'm getting sick of this endless diving from all parties.

It's got to the point where its making the game worse to watch.

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I would need to watch the match again to comment about the diving point, but C Ronaldo has always gone down easily

JC was made to take the penaly again because Ricardo wasnt ready, he had his hands in the air as JC shot

Rooneys red was harsh it should have been a yellow as I do not belive there was any intent,

and yes there needs to be a vidoe ref so that incidents like the Italians penalty vs Australia dont happen, but FIFA refuse, something about how its makes it unequal because ppl in shanty towns playing footbal dont have a vid ref

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Originally by: In4r4

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does it matter, they went there with big reps and now they come home having not even come close to justifying them, rooney ? never scored at world cup level, lampard ? less said the better, Beckham ? didnt this guy used to be able to deliver a good set piece ? terry ? betcha happy that he has cole and ferdinand around him, Robinson ? less said teh better


you can argue all you want, you can blame ronaldo all you want and sven all you want, teh system all you dam well want, the big players didnt do themselves justice

2 guys come out that england squad with any pride, and one is canadian

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Originally by: In4r4

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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Were you watching the same match!? The lad was superb!

England were cheated, same as always.

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Cheated how, yes Rooneys red was harsh but the blame lies in the worst manager in the tournament

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Endless Portugese diving, making JC take the penalty again. Rooney deservedly got the red card of course.

Its time to introduce a second off pitch video referee, I'm getting sick of this endless diving from all parties.

It's got to the point where its making the game worse to watch.

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I would need to watch the match again to comment about the diving point, but C Ronaldo has always gone down easily

JC was made to take the penaly again because Ricardo wasnt ready, he had his hands in the air as JC shot

Rooneys red was harsh it should have been a yellow as I do not belive there was any intent,

and yes there needs to be a vidoe ref so that incidents like the Italians penalty vs Australia dont happen, but FIFA refuse, something about how its makes it unequal because ppl in shanty towns playing footbal dont have a vid ref

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do we really want football to become stop start like rugby ?

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Originally by: Ace Garp1

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p.s Robinson wasnt tested very much the whole world cup so having a go at him is stupid, you cant save a well placed penalty

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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But I hope you dont actually believe you would have won with a vid ref in this case, cause that ref team today was the best so far, and made the right calls.

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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But I hope you dont actually believe you would have won with a vid ref in this case, cause that ref team today was the best so far, and made the right calls.

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Im Australian

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Edited by: Sir Juri on 01/07/2006 19:09:50


Good point spartan a vid ref for goals and penalty calls, not more tho is necessary. But I hope you dont actually believe you would have won with a vid ref in this case, cause that ref team today was the best so far, and made the right calls.

edit; Have to watch the match now, and your out so no need to give the english anymore attention then they deserve

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Originally by: Nira Li

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Originally by: Hellraiza666

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Edited by: Sir Juri on 01/07/2006 19:09:50


Good point spartan a vid ref for goals and penalty calls, not more tho is necessary. But I hope you dont actually believe you would have won with a vid ref in this case, cause that ref team today was the best so far, and made the right calls.

edit; Have to watch the match now, and your out so no need to give the english anymore attention then they deserve

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You can stick the ref up your ******* arse. He was ****. Portugal dived contasntly, ******* cheaters. The ref was shocking. i mean ffs, that player who went down holding his face, and he didnt even get touched. ******* *****.

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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Originally by: Hellraiza666

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Originally by: Sir Juri

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Edited by: Sir Juri on 01/07/2006 19:09:50


Good point spartan a vid ref for goals and penalty calls, not more tho is necessary. But I hope you dont actually believe you would have won with a vid ref in this case, cause that ref team today was the best so far, and made the right calls.

edit; Have to watch the match now, and your out so no need to give the english anymore attention then they deserve

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You can stick the ref up your ******* arse. He was ****. Portugal dived contasntly, ******* cheaters. The ref was shocking. i mean ffs, that player who went down holding his face, and he didnt even get touched. ******* *****.

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov

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Maaan Crouch runs like a girl, he doesn't have the build of a footie player

Lankie streek of ****

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Originally by: Zaldiri

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England didn't start playing well at all till Rooney was sent off, then they helf their own even with 10 men.

About that sending off, since Rooney was being hauled to the ground by 2 men (while still fending them off the ball) the ref should have stopped the incident a lot earlier, what was worse was the fact that the card was only given after the ref had been mobbed by Ronaldo & co.

The "I'm not ready" incident was blatently an error by the ref, anyone think the the goaly would have called for a retake if the ball had hit him? he wouldn't have beenanymore ready had that been the case. Basically he realised the first penelty was unsavable and demanded a retake.

However England only realy have themelves to blame, it is quite possible to make a penelty 100% unsavable 100% of the time, all it requires is practice and not suffering a nervous breakdown as you are hit the ball. The Germans know how.
In addition the side wasn't gelling properly, 4,5,1 was never going to work with Rooney and Sven has to take reposibilty for bad managing.
To end on a positive note, Owen Hargreaves is easily the fittest football player I have ever seen, and played execently in that match, and TBH I doubt either Brazil or France will be quaking in their boots at a team unable to beat a 10man side in open play.

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Originally by: FlyT3

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Originally by: Roxanna Kell

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gadamn it.
why int he world we had crouch on? beats me, the guy was a liability

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He had an absolutely BRILLIANT game... wtf is all this Crouch bashing about?

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Originally by: hUssmann

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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That's the crouch dance! Shame he does it all the time not just when he scores though

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Originally by: Stamm

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Originally by: hUssmann

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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That's the crouch dance! Shame he does it all the time not just when he scores though

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Crouch 1

Crouch 2

Crouch 3

Crouch 4

Crouch 5

Crouch 6

Crouch 7

Crouch 8

Crouch 9

Crouch a

Crouch b

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Crouch d

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And all other calls were correct.

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Originally by: WildHope

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Dissapointing. Yes. Surprising. No

England lost to a team inferior on paper, and inferior on the day.

It was no-ones fault, not Svens, not the Refs, not Christiano (playing on the continent this season) Ronaldo. Portugal were far from the better team - despite the lion's share of possession and an extra man they failed to create a meaningful chance in the second half.

Diving, smiving. Irrelevant.

I'm just waiting for someone to blame BoB.

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Originally by: Hellraiza666

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i predict that by 2018 world cup portugal will be wearing a tutu, ballerina shoes and have a fairy wand, bunch of pussies diving all over the place. And they handballed it in the box. end of the day, this world cup has been ****e, i think fifa are trying to make it a game for pussies with all this diving allowed

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Originally by: Oveur

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This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.

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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui

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And all other calls were correct.

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like the handball by the portugese defender

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Originally by: Indomitus Rex

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So anyway. . .now that the Englame is out as well as Brazil. . .Germany and France in the final. It's gonna be one for the ages...

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Originally by: Hellraiza666

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i predict that by 2018 world cup portugal will be wearing a tutu, ballerina shoes and have a fairy wand, bunch of pussies diving all over the place. And they handballed it in the box. end of the day, this world cup has been ****e, i think fifa are trying to make it a game for pussies with all this diving allowed

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Originally by: Stamm

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Originally by: hUssmann

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Quote:

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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That's the crouch dance! Shame he does it all the time not just when he scores though

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Crouch 1

Crouch 2

Crouch 3

Crouch 4

Crouch 5

Crouch 6

Crouch 7

Crouch 8

Crouch 9

Crouch a

Crouch b

Crouch c

Crouch d

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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Ronaldo is biggest %&*ú&!"ú cheat I have ever seen, Rooney should have smacked him right in the mouth.

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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar

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Defended like the lions on the shirt.

Proud of the lads.

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Originally by: Hellraiza666

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italy are lucky bastards too, getting that penalty vs australia from a blatant DIVE. He ran over the play and tripped himself up. Its ruining football, traditional football. The physical game, the game we all love, not this boring diving and cheating malarkey.

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Originally by: Frezik

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Detaurus isn't a person. It's a state of mind.

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Originally by: Matthias Ungabii

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i dont see why they didnt go for rooney walcott and lennon 3 up top, at least they can run a bit

terry and ferdinand playing endless 1-2's with robinson before pumping it aimlessly, its football like that which is 'ruining the game we love'

give me portugese players who go out to entertain over players who instead of wanting to win, are only concerned with not losing.

props to hargreaves though, good to see someone facing up to criticism and outperforming all the big heads surrounding him

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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar

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like the lions on the shirt.

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Originally by: Matthias Ungabii

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i dont see why they didnt go for rooney walcott and lennon 3 up top, at least they can run a bit

terry and ferdinand playing endless 1-2's with robinson before pumping it aimlessly, its football like that which is 'ruining the game we love'

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Originally by: Matthias Ungabii

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give me portugese players who go out to entertain over players who instead of wanting to win, are only concerned with not losing.

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Originally by: Matthias Ungabii

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props to hargreaves though, good to see someone facing up to criticism and outperforming all the big heads surrounding him

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Originally by: Serenity Frye

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i just cant wait till ronaldo gets back playin for man u he gonna get so much abuse and im gonna love every minute off it

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Originally by: Razor Jaxx

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On a sidenote, Zidane astonished the whole nation here, like it was 1998 all over again, I can't believe he's going to quit football altogether after the tounrnament. Dunno if we (the french) will make it to the final, but everything from now on is pure bonus & extra happiness.

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Originally by: Stamm

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Originally by: hUssmann

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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That's the crouch dance! Shame he does it all the time not just when he scores though

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Crouch 1

Crouch 2

Crouch 3

Crouch 4

Crouch 5

Crouch 6

Crouch 7

Crouch 8

Crouch 9

Crouch a

Crouch b

Crouch c

Crouch d

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Originally by: Sakura Nihil

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France vs Germany anyone?

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I have this friend, he said b4 the match: If Portugal wins, I get drunk with wiskey, if portugal loses I get drunnk with vodka.

guess what, he got drunk with wine and caipirinha :D

Originally by: algorythm

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First some wise words:

I have this friend, he said b4 the match: If Portugal wins, I get drunk with wiskey, if portugal loses I get drunnk with vodka.

guess what, he got drunk with wine and caipirinha :D

Anyway, we won, say it was refree, it was the weather, it was the grass, blame whatever you want, that wont matter. We did our gaming, it worked better then yours, and you must admit Ricardo pwnd has a GK.
Cheers to all the disgusted UK players, you get to see next round we get to play it

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Originally by: Stamm

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Originally by: hUssmann

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hahahahaha tbh crouch was waving his arms like a maniac

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That's the crouch dance! Shame he does it all the time not just when he scores though

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Crouch 1

Crouch 2

Crouch 3

Crouch 4

Crouch 5

Crouch 6

Crouch 7

Crouch 8

Crouch 9

Crouch a

Crouch b

Crouch c

Crouch d

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Originally by: Ordep

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Edited by: Ordep on 02/07/2006 02:23:42
nice game.

Ricardo beats the world record for defended panalties.

England GO HOME

I can¦t understand why you english guys are so uptight with this lose.
You didn¦t played well enough to win. You lost for the 3rd time in a row for Portugal.

I can¦t understand why all of you are talking about final France - Germany ?!?!?

Theres more teams in the run.

Sorry to say this but you are to conviced you are going to win.

Might i remind you that portugal is Europe vice-champion. And greece is not playing.
So get your heads cold and think.
You didn¦t loose because you had Rooney expelled.
This a proof that Portugal plays well within game rules and that the Holland game was an exception created by the referee and Holland coach. Sportsmanship anyone ?

Well..game on. Cya in the finals.

RICARDO RULEZ

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Originally by: Halkin

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Originally by: Ordep

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Edited by: Ordep on 02/07/2006 02:23:42
nice game.

Ricardo beats the world record for defended panalties.

England GO HOME

I can¦t understand why you english guys are so uptight with this lose.
You didn¦t played well enough to win. You lost for the 3rd time in a row for Portugal.

I can¦t understand why all of you are talking about final France - Germany ?!?!?

Theres more teams in the run.

Sorry to say this but you are to conviced you are going to win.

Might i remind you that portugal is Europe vice-champion. And greece is not playing.
So get your heads cold and think.
You didn¦t loose because you had Rooney expelled.
This a proof that Portugal plays well within game rules and that the Holland game was an exception created by the referee and Holland coach. Sportsmanship anyone ?

Well..game on. Cya in the finals.

RICARDO RULEZ

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yeh good luck cheating your way into the final

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Sakura Nihil

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France vs Germany anyone?

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Depends on if the ref is the 12th man for the germans again

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Originally by: Indomitus Rex

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Sakura Nihil

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France vs Germany anyone?

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Depends on if the ref is the 12th man for the germans again

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Are you freaking serious? The only reason Italy is in the semis is because of a HORRID call by a ref giving them a PK on an obvious dive. Italy can go shove it.

Germany has been playing outstanding football the whole tourney except maybe their game against Poland. Italy on the other hand can't even beat us, the USA. In fact, Italy has just about had the easiest draw of the whole Cup. I mean, really, getting to play Ukraine who is playing in their first WC in the quarters? And Germany dispatches probably the second best team in the whole tourney in Argentina.

Support Italy all you like, but don't go saying the refs favor Germany.

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Indomitus Rex

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Sakura Nihil

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France vs Germany anyone?

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Depends on if the ref is the 12th man for the germans again

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Are you freaking serious? The only reason Italy is in the semis is because of a HORRID call by a ref giving them a PK on an obvious dive. Italy can go shove it.

Germany has been playing outstanding football the whole tourney except maybe their game against Poland. Italy on the other hand can't even beat us, the USA. In fact, Italy has just about had the easiest draw of the whole Cup. I mean, really, getting to play Ukraine who is playing in their first WC in the quarters? And Germany dispatches probably the second best team in the whole tourney in Argentina.

Support Italy all you like, but don't go saying the refs favor Germany.

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Firsly I'm Australian, and yes it wanst a penalty and it should have gone to extra time but at the end of the day it didnt and they went through not the first team in a wc to win by dubious means, Argentina 10 mins after they scored there goal didnt play well, but they were not helped by a penalty not given and any time a German fell over that he was given a free kick etc etc you cannot say the ref wasnt Germanys 12th man out there, because if you think he wansnt then you need to get your eyes tested, probably the worst refereing of the tourney

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Indomitus Rex

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France vs Germany anyone?

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Depends on if the ref is the 12th man for the germans again

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Are you freaking serious? The only reason Italy is in the semis is because of a HORRID call by a ref giving them a PK on an obvious dive. Italy can go shove it.

Germany has been playing outstanding football the whole tourney except maybe their game against Poland. Italy on the other hand can't even beat us, the USA. In fact, Italy has just about had the easiest draw of the whole Cup. I mean, really, getting to play Ukraine who is playing in their first WC in the quarters? And Germany dispatches probably the second best team in the whole tourney in Argentina.

Support Italy all you like, but don't go saying the refs favor Germany.

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Firsly I'm Australian, and yes it wanst a penalty and it should have gone to extra time but at the end of the day it didnt and they went through not the first team in a wc to win by dubious means, Argentina 10 mins after they scored there goal didnt play well, but they were not helped by a penalty not given and any time a German fell over that he was given a free kick etc etc you cannot say the ref wasnt Germanys 12th man out there, because if you think he wansnt then you need to get your eyes tested, probably the worst refereing of the tourney

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No, the worst reffing of the tourney was Portugal v Netherlands or USA v. CR. Germany hasn't gotten any more breaks compared to anyone else in this WC.

Also, I was watching ESPN when Italy beat Australia. They were showing all the Italians in Australia celebrating. So, I'm guessing you probably belong to that group, so don't try passing yourself off as Aussie first.

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Originally by: Indomitus Rex

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France vs Germany anyone?

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Depends on if the ref is the 12th man for the germans again

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Are you freaking serious? The only reason Italy is in the semis is because of a HORRID call by a ref giving them a PK on an obvious dive. Italy can go shove it.

Germany has been playing outstanding football the whole tourney except maybe their game against Poland. Italy on the other hand can't even beat us, the USA. In fact, Italy has just about had the easiest draw of the whole Cup. I mean, really, getting to play Ukraine who is playing in their first WC in the quarters? And Germany dispatches probably the second best team in the whole tourney in Argentina.

Support Italy all you like, but don't go saying the refs favor Germany.

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Firsly I'm Australian, and yes it wanst a penalty and it should have gone to extra time but at the end of the day it didnt and they went through not the first team in a wc to win by dubious means, Argentina 10 mins after they scored there goal didnt play well, but they were not helped by a penalty not given and any time a German fell over that he was given a free kick etc etc you cannot say the ref wasnt Germanys 12th man out there, because if you think he wansnt then you need to get your eyes tested, probably the worst refereing of the tourney

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No, the worst reffing of the tourney was Portugal v Netherlands or USA v. CR. Germany hasn't gotten any more breaks compared to anyone else in this WC.

Also, I was watching ESPN when Italy beat Australia. They were showing all the Italians in Australia celebrating. So, I'm guessing you probably belong to that group, so don't try passing yourself off as Aussie first.

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Yes I'm Australian, with an English mother and an Australian father and ancestors from poland and romaina , assuming is a bad thing, and Port vs Ned if the players wanna kick each other then you cant stop them, thats up to the manager tbh, and are you refering to the USA C Rep game where the Czech Rep played very well and won 3-0. The Argies had over 60% of the possesion vs Germany but only 1/3rd of the free kicks awarded to them and then there was a blatant penalty where the Argentinian was booked for diving

tbh all the Aussie games had the worst refering (Foul goal vs Japan, Brazil getting free kicks for nothing, 3 yellows for one player vs Croatia and two clear penaltys not given, and a dubious penaly with 5 seconds on the clock vs Italy) but the Agrentina-Germany game comes right after that and if you dont think the ref was cheating for the Germans then wtb whatever your smoking

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Originally by: Spartan239

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France vs Germany anyone?

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Depends on if the ref is the 12th man for the germans again

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Are you freaking serious? The only reason Italy is in the semis is because of a HORRID call by a ref giving them a PK on an obvious dive. Italy can go shove it.

Germany has been playing outstanding football the whole tourney except maybe their game against Poland. Italy on the other hand can't even beat us, the USA. In fact, Italy has just about had the easiest draw of the whole Cup. I mean, really, getting to play Ukraine who is playing in their first WC in the quarters? And Germany dispatches probably the second best team in the whole tourney in Argentina.

Support Italy all you like, but don't go saying the refs favor Germany.

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Excuse me. I meant the USA v. Italy game where the Italian player deserved the red and then the rest was just ridiculous.

And why would the ref cheat for the Germans? Seriously? Everyone hates the Germans. Also nevermind the fact that the Argentine players tried to start a brawl afterwards. Kicking Metzelder and then Maxi Rodriquez swinging at folks, etc. Not too bright considering you're in German in a stadium full of riled up Germans.

Anyway, I think Germany is going on to win it all. They're playing great. . .Klose is going to win the Golden Boot, and I don't see anyone stopping them.


EDIT: Also, if you aren't of Italian descent then you really have no reason to be trying to talk down the German squad. You were defending their play while accusing the Germans of getting help from the ref (which is laughable) so naturally it makes you look like an Italian supporter. Apologies to your mother.

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If you're American and wanna complain complain how about Ghana's penalty

Watching France outplay both Spain and Brazil on form you would have to fancy them to win.

Remember Germany won on pens only vs Argentina, were helped by poor refering and the non award of an Argentine penalty (to Maxi Rodrigues) and have to play much harder opponents in Italy in the semi.
As for groups Germanys group was the easiest of all Italy had to play the highly rated Czech Rep and Ghana not to mention your beloved USA who never gave up and played well.

Originally by: Indomitus Rex

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EDIT: Also, if you aren't of Italian descent then you really have no reason to be trying to talk down the German squad. You were defending their play while accusing the Germans of getting help from the ref (which is laughable) so naturally it makes you look like an Italian supporter. Apologies to your mother.

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Originally by: Ordep

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Edited by: Ordep on 02/07/2006 02:23:42
nice game.

Ricardo beats the world record for defended panalties.

England GO HOME

I can¦t understand why you english guys are so uptight with this lose.
You didn¦t played well enough to win. You lost for the 3rd time in a row for Portugal.

I can¦t understand why all of you are talking about final France - Germany ?!?!?

Theres more teams in the run.

Sorry to say this but you are to conviced you are going to win.

Might i remind you that portugal is Europe vice-champion. And greece is not playing.
So get your heads cold and think.
You didn¦t loose because you had Rooney expelled.
This a proof that Portugal plays well within game rules and that the Holland game was an exception created by the referee and Holland coach. Sportsmanship anyone ?

Well..game on. Cya in the finals.

RICARDO RULEZ

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And stop this *** about diving ,you guys (and all other teams) are the ones that are always ,ALWAYS doing faults to portugal and not letting them play their game.Holland almost killed ronaldo .If you don¦t want faults dont do them.

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On the subject of David Beckham. He has just stepped down as captain for the team

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On the subject of David Beckham. He has just stepped down as captain for the team

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Originally by: Raptornas
However we have a muppet of a nice guy manager who didn't understand that you should play players in their position not just cram your stars in. Our midfield was a mess and there was a simple solution, drop Lampard (and I adore the lad) and beckham stick crouch up front and put lennon in beckhams position.

There you go 4-4-2 a system that the players are happy with I don't care what you think of crouch he gets results and him and Rooney are going to be our new striking partnership we can't leave rooney on his own up there unless we want him to explode.[/quote

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nononono get rid of crouch...all england does with crouch is long ball, long ball, long ball..and quite frankly we SUCK at them... i recon a jermaine defeo (dno how spell that) and a rooney partnership would work wonders...

yes drop beckham and get lennon there.

and we shud have seen theo walcot when rooney went off
arrrrr isnt it annoying when you cant tell a sig from a post:lol:

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nononono get rid of crouch...all england does with crouch is long ball, long ball, long ball..and quite frankly we SUCK at them... i recon a jermaine defeo (dno how spell that) and a rooney partnership would work wonders...

yes drop beckham and get lennon there.

and we shud have seen theo walcot when rooney went off

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Originally by: tAkErPT

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Edited by: tAkErPT on 02/07/2006 11:03:49
stop whining, Portugal won with justice and fair play.

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Edited by: tAkErPT on 02/07/2006 11:03:49
England just got pwnd by Ricardo of doom!

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stop whining, Portugal won with justice and fair play.

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Originally by: Raptornas

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Anybody who questions our media's build up of the world cup should just shut up. We have fantastic players easily a match for the portuguese as proven for the fact that we had far...

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Just an interesting little fact from the official fifa site...who's the naughtiest team in the tournament so far...

Theres a shock, its Portugal....

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/stats/detail.html?section=tdc

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Anybody who questions our media's build up of the world cup should just shut up.

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Portugal fairly won

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ok so if rooney was sent off for a slight push on a portugese player, why wasnt Figo red carded for HEADBUTTING another player?

Given the fact the Ronaldo was up on his feet so quickly after apparently gettign a load of studs right in his crotch, he should have bee carded for diving.

And anyone stating that the ref was unbiased is talking rubbish. (Funny how no one is talking about the fact that the player taking the last penalty for portugal stopped in his run up - which is illegal under the rules of the game)

However this does not excuse Englands poor performance.

There is no killer instinct - the team only ever did just enough to win. They didnt go out with the intention of pounding the opposition into the ground.
Until that changes, we will NEVER win a major tournament.

As ever the media just don't help with the way they behave in the run up to a tournament. its 40 years since we won the world cup. ffs just let it go.

Theres alot of passion in this thread. I just wish we could have seen that on the pitch.

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ok so if rooney was sent off for a slight push on a portugese player, why wasnt Figo red carded for HEADBUTTING another player?

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Given the fact the Ronaldo was up on his feet so quickly after apparently gettign a load of studs right in his crotch, he should have bee carded for diving.

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And anyone stating that the ref was unbiased is talking rubbish. (Funny how no one is talking about the fact that the player taking the last penalty for portugal stopped in his run up - which is illegal under the rules of the game)

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Anybody who questions our media's build up of the world cup should just shut up. We have fantastic players easily a match for the portuguese as proven for the fact that we had far better chances to score even when down to 10 men (Oh how I houled when our boy terry's shot was deflected just over the bar). We in england love our sport, we may not be particularly good at it but we love it and this year I and the nation genuinly thought we had a chance.

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Whenever i see a Englishman having a moan you get these people who cant wait to put the boot in... Why is this?? Lets face it Brazil was hyped up by the media and expected to win but they didnÆt play as well as expected. I donÆt see anybody ranting about them. Why are people so anti English but not anti... say... Brazilian? Jealous maybe?

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As for the gameà I think it was ruined by the refà do I think thatÆs the refs fault? Noà I blame FIFA for being a bunch of pu**ys. Football used to be a mans game but now it is a game for play actors and cheats. You only have to touch a man and the whistle is blownà Run past a player and watch him dive to the floor screaming in agony holding his faceà the person who ran past him is sent off and the ôinjuredö player jumps to his feet and carryÆs on playing. ItÆs a joke, I have never seen so many people red/yellow carded in a tournament. What Rooney done may have been wrong but I honestly think a yellow card and a talking to would have been enough.

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I am an Englishman who feels robedà I will now be supporting Germany (shock horror) to win the finalà They have been totally fantastic hosts who have really looked after all the fans thereà good luck Jurgen Wink

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hahahahaha so being pussies and diving, rolling around on floor , holding your head when u aint even been hit makes them deserve winning? hahaha

PS. Portugal played **** except from ricardo, he won it for you, the rest of portugal were beaten by only 10 men

And lol i hope the ref sends all portugal players of for diving next match and they have to forfeit

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2 bad some english people can't take a loss =( blame the divers! =) you rule, england rule! but... you're out!
maybe next time u can beat us! it's getting anoying always win against england eheheh

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2 bad some english people can't take a loss =( blame the divers! =)

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Maybe because in germany when some portuguese were partying because of portugal wining ,some english trown rocks at their heads and send them to hospital?

Or maybe because english press was trying to take portugal team name true the dirt?

The question is ENGLAND PLAYED WELL AND YOU LOST TO PENALTYS,the most unfair way to go and you blame it on the coach,the refereee, "diving" ,the weather , because portuguese dive like fish...

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The question is ENGLAND PLAYED WELL AND YOU LOST TO PENALTYS,the most unfair way to go and you blame it on the coach,the refereee, "diving" ,the weather , because portuguese dive like fish

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Yeah rigth ,i wonder if england won the match you would be saying that..
Yeah i mean what rooney did was just fooling around ,what he wanted to do was just an act of love...

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May the best win ,the only thing i ask to portuguese footbal team is to do their best .

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As an Englishman, can I offer a profound apology on behalf of all these idiots who still can't believe it's ever our fault that we lost .. it must have been a biased referee, or a cheating Portuguese, or FIFA's fault for closing the roof, or ....



face facts, guys. We went to a penalty shoot-out, and TWO Portuguese players missed the target completely. How much easier a chance do we want?

If you can't stick the ball in the inside corner of the goal from twelve yards, you simply don't deserve to be paid to play football. Go look at Germany, who haven't missed a penalty for twenty-four years. Pressure? Bullcrap. There's people do their jobs under a hail of gunfire, with the risk of a bomb going off at any time. THAT, is pressure. 50,000 fans screaming at you is completely irrelevant. It doesn't affect the Germans, there's no reason it should affect us.

As for Rooney's red card - I'm not sure whether it was for kicking a guy in the crotch, or for pushing another guy over, or for swearing at the referee. He should've actually got three red cards, one for each. Anyway, I'm guessing FIFA will ban him for pretty much the whole of the next two years, so it won't be a concern.

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Ok 1st part of this comment about English fans throwing rocks...

Please read English fans best in the world

Yes there may have been 1 or 2 incidents but on the whole the england fans had no problems... You think other countrys havent had trouble??

The 2nd part about English press taking portugal through the dirt... Er... did you actually watch the Portugal vs Holand game???

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So you admit that england played well and Portugal dive like fish?? sounds like its you who is sl*gging them off HAHA

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What planet are you on... Of course i would say the same if we won... I and many other have been complaining about the amount of diving and cheating in football for a while now... I was particularly disgusted with the Italian team who seem to have turned it into an art form.

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My point is that a team that Cheats is NOT the best team!!!

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all this chit chat about rooney getting the red card, hes an excellent player, he needs to control his anger though, you CANNOT argue with the ref.

The red card was a good call, why? As pushing and swearing should not be tolerated when playing football, I know football is more physical than msot people think however that push was uncalled for and had nothing to do with the game...

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Ok 1st part of this comment about English fans throwing rocks...

Please read English fans best in the world

Yes there may have been 1 or 2 incidents but on the whole the england fans had no problems... You think other countrys havent had trouble??

The 2nd part about English press taking portugal through the dirt... Er... did you actually watch the Portugal vs Holand game???

and the 3rd part of the coment

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Yeah rigth english fans best in the world?One or two incidents?Only one incident isnt enougth?And no i did never ever heard in portuguese fans doing ***.

Man best in the world?
here is fairplay in action

And yes i watched the holland vs Portugal game and the referre was pure and utterlly a piece of *** ,that damaged the 2 teams .

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So you admit that england played well and Portugal dive like fish?? sounds like its you who is sl*gging them off HAHA

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I admited that england played as good as portugal and the result at the end of the game proves it 0-0 .
We won in the penaltys you lost ,move on .

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Mate the referre was one of the best referees that i have watched ,and you still say this?I have no comments.

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My point is that a team that Cheats is NOT the best team!!!

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Well Ricardo is a known medium, he cheated is way into Lampard head and ,he new exacttly were he was going to shoot ,and the same happened with the other 2 that missed the penalty.

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Pesadel0

I must appologise.. i didnt realise you was Portugal fan...

You see as an englishman it is instilled in me to be honest and fair playing... It is unfair of me to try a false my values on you

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HAHA

*Shakes Pesadel0's hand and walks away*

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Oh... and i suppose you think that portugal played with honor and fairness??

If its diving and cheating you like maybe you should be cheering for the Italian team for the rest of the tournament?

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[... Now i know that FIFA have said they are gonna try and clean up the cheats by sending them off but ive seen far more people sent off for hard tackles than Divers and play actors...

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4. had a swede as a manager, - imo sven would not have the fire in him being a non english manager.

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and 5. most importantly FiFa put an Argentinian Referee up to ref our game , i dont care , this was BADDDD mmkay!! fifa knows the hostilities between the argies and england and that they always cheat!!!!!!!!111 dont tell me that ref was not biased in anyway!!!

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its gone its done and we were cheated out of yet another world cup

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Originally by: The Gate

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Edited by: The Gate on 02/07/2006 19:34:24
If i was rooney and just of got that red card then i'd of hit ronaldo there and then, i'm getting sent off anyway so why not ?. England played alot better the entire game, portugal had an extra man for advantage and still were no where near good enough to get past england defence. One of the england penalties had to be retaken because keeper wasn't ready (crap excuse just because he couldn't save it), ronaldo stopped whilst running up to take his which is against the rules. Result portugal win but we all know england were the better team. Anyway portugal will be going home soon enough as well after losing to france. By the way i'm not from england or portugal.

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doesnt matter anyway YOUR GOING HOME anyway u were struggling to beat 10 men i dunno how your gonna beat france

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Ok 1st part of this comment about English fans throwing rocks...

Please read English fans best in the world

Yes there may have been 1 or 2 incidents but on the whole the england fans had no problems... You think other countrys havent had trouble??

The 2nd part about English press taking portugal through the dirt... Er... did you actually watch the Portugal vs Holand game???

and the 3rd part of the coment

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Yeah rigth english fans best in the world?One or two incidents?Only one incident isnt enougth?And no i did never ever heard in portuguese fans doing ***.

Man best in the world?
here is fairplay in action

And yes i watched the holland vs Portugal game and the referre was pure and utterlly a piece of *** ,that damaged the 2 teams .

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I admited that england played as good as portugal and the result at the end of the game proves it 0-0 .
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I've never yet seen a player's career terminated by an opponent diving or play-acting.

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btw, any1 read the papers?? Rooney says hes going to sort ronaldo out when he gets back to Man U

I can see it now :
Dead Body Found At Man U Training Ground
Ronaldo has been found dead at man us training ground, there won;t be an investigation because hes a little ****

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I've never yet seen a player's career terminated by an opponent diving or play-acting.

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There's been dozens. Maybe you should watch more football.

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Edited by: Kanoubi on 03/07/2006 16:41:12
To clear things :


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5137272.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5138240.stm

. Are we done with all this BS against Ronaldo ???

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Lmao

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btw, any1 read the papers?? Rooney says hes going to sort ronaldo out when he gets back to Man U

I can see it now :
Dead Body Found At Man U Training Ground
Ronaldo has been found dead at man us training ground, there won;t be an investigation because hes a little ****

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Aren't you an twisted mind ... You must love football and fairplay ..

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