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Arabian Goggle
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:16:00 -
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Can anyone tell me how, besides trial and error, you figure out the range at which your drones will attack a target? I know that this range can be increased by training scout drone op. and drone nav. skills but I can't figure out how far, with my skills, my drones will engage.
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:17:00 -
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With max skills it is 60km if I remember correct.
The skills are Scout Drone op and EW drone op.
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Talori'i
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Arabian Goggle
Can anyone tell me how, besides trial and error, you figure out the range at which your drones will attack a target? I know that this range can be increased by training scout drone op. and drone nav. skills but I can't figure out how far, with my skills, my drones will engage.
Its 45km with scout drone to 5, and I think with one more skill it adds another 3km per level(electronic warfare drones or something) so 60km.
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Arabian Goggle
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:21:00 -
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ok, thanks. If 60km is correct at max then I will just subtract for whatever skill levels I am missing.
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:26:00 -
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the max is actually 220km with 8 of the control range enhancers on.
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Shacksman
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:34:00 -
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scout drone 4 is 45k 
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Wat0721
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shacksman
scout drone 4 is 45k
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Giant Haystacks
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shacksman
scout drone 4 is 45k
lies
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:02:00 -
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20km base.
5km per level of scout drones.
3km per level of EW Drones Interfacing.
20km per Drone Link Augmentor module fitted
and if anyone says EW Drones skill only applies to drones that require the skill to use, they need to be smacked.
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Galifardeua
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:11:00 -
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Base 20k
Each scout drone operation level +5km
Each electronic warfare drone interfacing level +3km
After this addition:
Each Drone link augmentor *1.20 the result
So, in short, it's:
(20 + SDOL*5 + EWDIL *3 ) * 1.20^(#DLA)
Have fun
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marioman
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Galifardeua
Base 20k
Each scout drone operation level +5km
Each electronic warfare drone interfacing level +3km
After this addition:
Each Drone link augmentor *1.20 the result
So, in short, it's:
(20 + SDOL*5 + EWDIL *3 ) * 1.20^(#DLA)
Have fun
Actually it would be 20 + (SDOL * 5) + (EWDIL * 5) + (20 * #DLA) = CR
Since DLA's are a static 20km addition, not a percentage.
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:51:00 -
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anything farther than 200 km is a waste, because as soon as any drone gets farther than that, it becomes "incapacitated". You loose control oiver that drone and have to pick it up manually.
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Galifardeua
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Posted - 2006.07.02 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: marioman
Originally by: Galifardeua
Base 20k
Each scout drone operation level +5km
Each electronic warfare drone interfacing level +3km
After this addition:
Each Drone link augmentor *1.20 the result
So, in short, it's:
(20 + SDOL*5 + EWDIL *3 ) * 1.20^(#DLA)
Have fun
Actually it would be 20 + (SDOL * 5) + (EWDIL * 5) + (20 * #DLA) = CR
Since DLA's are a static 20km addition, not a percentage.
First:
On mathematics when doing A + B * C, B * C is ALLWAYS done before the adition. So parenthesis there are redundant. (it's a pet peeve of mine to be **** about this, sorry)
Second, and last:
Although the item is not well defined in the item database here, you can look at it in the ingame database, do it.
Attributes
Volume: 5.0m3
Mass: 200.0 kg
Tech level: 1
Drone control range bonus: 20.000 %
(emphasis mine)
Even more, I bought 3 of them, some time ago, and wanted to go to the upper limits of my controling ability.
20 + 5*5 + 3*3 = 54 km
Ok, so 3 should have let me attack to 114 km, no?
Alas, no, they didn't. They fell short.
But they reached over 90 km. Then is when I saw my failure, it was not 20km but 20%, so they went just over 93 km away. (93.312 to be exact)
No one is perfect, specially me. Have fun.
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Altrex Stoppel
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Posted - 2006.07.02 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 02/07/2006 21:46:22
Originally by: marioman
Originally by: Galifardeua
Base 20k
Each scout drone operation level +5km
Each electronic warfare drone interfacing level +3km
After this addition:
Each Drone link augmentor *1.20 the result
So, in short, it's:
(20 + SDOL*5 + EWDIL *3 ) * 1.20^(#DLA)
Have fun
Actually it would be 20 + (SDOL * 5) + (EWDIL * 5) + (20 * #DLA) = CR
Since DLA's are a static 20km addition, not a percentage.
PEMDAS kind of explains why you're using so many parentheses but it also makes them redundant.
Oops this was alrdy covered sorry.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.07.03 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kel Shek on 03/07/2006 00:13:20
Originally by: Galifardeua
Quote:
Actually it would be 20 + (SDOL * 5) + (EWDIL * 5) + (20 * #DLA) = CR
Since DLA's are a static 20km addition, not a percentage.
First:
On mathematics when doing A + B * C, B * C is ALWAYS done before the adition. So parenthesis there are redundant. (it's a pet peeve of mine to be **** about this, sorry)
Second, and last:
Although the item is not well defined in the item database here, you can look at it in the ingame database, do it.
Attributes
Volume: 5.0m3
Mass: 200.0 kg
Tech level: 1
Drone control range bonus: 20.000 %
(emphasis mine)
Even more, I bought 3 of them, some time ago, and wanted to go to the upper limits of my controling ability.
20 + 5*5 + 3*3 = 54 km
Ok, so 3 should have let me attack to 114 km, no?
Alas, no, they didn't. They fell short.
But they reached over 90 km. Then is when I saw my failure, it was not 20km but 20%, so they went just over 93 km away. (93.312 to be exact)
No one is perfect, specially me. Have fun.
Edit: correcting spelling errors 
1) parenthesis makes it clearer and easier to read,
2) just testing this, because I'm 90% sure your wrong.
in my ishkur. put on a sentry drone and a mining drone. no DLA, went to the nearby roid belt.
I have scout drones 5, EW Drone Interfacing 3.
targeted a roid at 54km (of course this means its slightly above 54km) neither drone would "activate" on the target.
targeted a roid at 53km. both activated.
so far so good, this is as it should be without a augmentor.
went back, put on sensor booster and DLA. went out to 70km from a roid, targeted,
now, if its 20km flat, then it will work because the new range is 74km.
if its 20% then it won't, because the new range would be 64.8Km.
target... engage target/mine. :gasp: no "drone not responding" message from the sentry drone, and the mining drone starts flying in that direction.
to be quintuple sure, I put on 2 DLA's and 2 sensor boosters, ... 89km away from a roid. and... no error message from the sentry drone, and the mining drone starts to duitifully fly in that direction.
now, I'm not claiming they never changed it... but currently it IS 20km flat.
edit: just fixing the quote tags... not sure where I messed em up
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And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Wat0721
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Posted - 2006.07.03 02:29:00 -
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The item attributes are wrong at-present -- it adds a flat 20km with, as far as anyone can tell, no stacking penalty.
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Galifardeua
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Posted - 2006.07.03 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
1) parenthesis makes it clearer and easier to read,
No, it doesn't make it so. IMO. But different people different likings
Originally by: Kel Shek
2) just testing this, because I'm 90% sure your wrong.
Ok, I'll test again, probably I was half sleepy. If it works so, much better then.
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Myriel Wu
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Posted - 2006.07.23 18:01:00 -
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And how far could i go with heavy drones?
Is the addition in range from the "Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing"-Skill working on them too?
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Kery Nysell
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Myriel Wu
And how far could i go with heavy drones?
Is the addition in range from the "Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing"-Skill working on them too?
Same range as all drones, the skill names are kinda misleading, but they apply to all types of drones (even EW and Logistics ones).
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Myriel Wu
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.23 20:17:00 -
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Ah okay thx, so the range binus from scout drones apply also to heavy drones?
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.07.23 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Myriel Wu
Ah okay thx, so the range binus from scout drones apply also to heavy drones?
Yep
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Reithan
Caldari
Dark Planet Ventures
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:29:00 -
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If you look at any of the skill or things that add to drone range they have "X %" bonus listed.
Like Scout Drone Operation says "5km bonus" in the desctipion, but if you look at the stats it says "5,000 %"
So, the DLA says "20,000 %"...I assume that's also 20,000km.
DOWN WITH THE TECH2 LOTTERY!!!
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Epoch
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Posted - 2006.11.21 02:13:00 -
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^ you mean 20,000m or 20km.
in addition the info description on drones is entirely wrong. med - actiavtion prox = 2,000m. lights activation prox = 1,000m. i understand act prox as the max distance the drones can be controlled. as alreadys been discussed, the base control range on all is 20,000m or 20km. maybe im missing something or it just another one of the dozens anamolies that exist in eve.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.11.21 02:27:00 -
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it may say 20000% but what it means is 20000m.
Do what i mean not what i say
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Yamaeda
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Posted - 2006.11.21 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Arabian Goggle
Can anyone tell me how, besides trial and error, you figure out the range at which your drones will attack a target? I know that this range can be increased by training scout drone op. and drone nav. skills but I can't figure out how far, with my skills, my drones will engage.
20km + 5km*[scout drone operation] + modules (20km on Drone Augmentor)
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Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.21 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Epoch
^ you mean 20,000m or 20km.
in addition the info description on drones is entirely wrong. med - actiavtion prox = 2,000m. lights activation prox = 1,000m. i understand act prox as the max distance the drones can be controlled. as alreadys been discussed, the base control range on all is 20,000m or 20km. maybe im missing something or it just another one of the dozens anamolies that exist in eve.
That's the distance the drones are supposed to start shooting at their target.
I say supposed, because sometimes my Heavy start shooting while theya are 20 mk away. Might be some lag though.
Originally by: Jiekon
From what i`m aware of, reading the game rules, it's not against any rules to mine
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