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Nick MyLuts
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.20 20:20:00 -
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Hello there! I've got a question for the more experienced PvErs out there.
I'm mainly doing highsec 4s and right now I'm flying a 1400 Arti Mach. However, my skills are still not perfect for it and I've realized that I could be flying a Kronos with equal if not slightly better skills.
How good is the Kronos currently? Is it worth the switch?
Thanks in advance! |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
546
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Posted - 2014.07.20 21:44:00 -
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In general... Marauders got 2 perks.. 1. Looting: bonus to tractors and salvaging hence you can use superior cargo size and the bonuses to loot and salvage on the go. 2. Bastion mode: you are now immune to EWAR and got stupid bonus to tank. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
551
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:46:00 -
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blaster kronos is pretty awesome if you have a mission where you can get up close and brawl it out. and it has pretty good range with Null to pick off a few things at range. Damsel is probably one of the best missions for it. I think the kronos is pretty nice, but I don't use it a whole lot. It can also fit rails, but I generally don't use it like that.
The 800mm AC mach can do the same pretty well too, it has far better mobility and damage selection also. and with 1400s, the mach is pretty decent. I prefer AC for most missions, but an arty fit is very useful for some missions. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
990
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Posted - 2014.07.21 01:48:00 -
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Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.07.23 03:03:00 -
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personally I think the bastion mode makes the marauder worth it alone (the extra salvage is just icing on the cake) no more jamming or super annoying damps or tracking disrupted to hell and back. of course being able to t2 the entire tank is nice as well, more iskies to spend on pvp ships and makes you much less of a gank magnet. |
Rok Hard
The Crimson Permanent Assurance Co. Bad Intention
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Posted - 2014.07.23 03:18:00 -
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Agreed. I love my vargur. Bastion is amazing with an MTU. :D |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.23 03:29:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. This is why I've stepped away from my paladin, I know it will happen to me sooner or later. Most likely sooner. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:02:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:In general... Marauders got 2 perks.. 1. Looting: bonus to tractors and salvaging hence you can use superior cargo size and the bonuses to loot and salvage on the go. 2. Bastion mode: you are now immune to EWAR and got stupid bonus to tank.
3. You can use short range weapons (and thus have higher damage output) without having to slowboat into range. |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.07.24 08:31:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:
3. You can use short range weapons (and thus have higher damage output) without having to slowboat into range.
90km with scorch is nice. MJD, bastion, pew pew.
Also helps if you Disco cos all the tackle is dead from Scorch. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:58:00 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. This is why I've stepped away from my paladin, I know it will happen to me sooner or later. Most likely sooner.
Personally I consider this to be the only really heavy downside of Marauders. They are slower than other BSs, cost more, etc., but the disconnect thing is the only really unsettling thing about them in my opinion.
That said, a disconnect is not an automatic loss. I've have, in a Golem, survived several socket-closed errors and a few other random disconnects and haven't lost it yet (the closest left me with a slim amount of armor damage). Don't giver your hopes up, but don't immediately assume your Marauder is instantly wrecked from a DC. |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.25 07:36:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. This is why I've stepped away from my paladin, I know it will happen to me sooner or later. Most likely sooner. Personally I consider this to be the only really heavy downside of Marauders. They are slower than other BSs, cost more, etc., but the disconnect thing is the only really unsettling thing about them in my opinion. That said, a disconnect is not an automatic loss. I've have, in a Golem, survived several socket-closed errors and a few other random disconnects and haven't lost it yet (the closest left me with a slim amount of armor damage). Don't giver your hopes up, but don't immediately assume your Marauder is instantly wrecked from a DC.
The real danger is a disconnect while scrammed so killing any scramming frigates immediately ( rather than thinking "I got bastion who cares" ) will substantially increase your chances of the ship being alive when you log back in after a DC. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:09:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. This is why I've stepped away from my paladin, I know it will happen to me sooner or later. Most likely sooner. Personally I consider this to be the only really heavy downside of Marauders. They are slower than other BSs, cost more, etc., but the disconnect thing is the only really unsettling thing about them in my opinion. That said, a disconnect is not an automatic loss. I've have, in a Golem, survived several socket-closed errors and a few other random disconnects and haven't lost it yet (the closest left me with a slim amount of armor damage). Don't giver your hopes up, but don't immediately assume your Marauder is instantly wrecked from a DC. In my case, service that is interrupted is not restored for several minutes. Its not really a socket closed thing. Hasn't happened in a good long time, but when the issue rears its ugly head again I will be screwed. |
Mason Drake
SGK Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:59:00 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:
3. You can use short range weapons (and thus have higher damage output) without having to slowboat into range.
90km with scorch is nice. MJD, bastion, pew pew. Also helps if you Disco cos all the tackle is dead from Scorch.
I use Tachs & 2 TCs: 38km optimal with Gleam melts mission rats. INMF has a 75km optimal. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.27 05:31:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:In general... Marauders got 2 perks.. 1. Looting: bonus to tractors and salvaging hence you can use superior cargo size and the bonuses to loot and salvage on the go. 2. Bastion mode: you are now immune to EWAR and got stupid bonus to tank.
Also MJD bonus, use less ammo, can sport a 2-3 slot tank so more room for damage/tracking/damage application/sebos.
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JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
268
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Posted - 2014.07.31 18:17:00 -
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Regarding the Kronos, MJD with Railguns is a much more viable option than MJD with Blasters. Dispatching frigates beyond 120km is trivial. The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
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Posted - 2014.07.31 18:50:00 -
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Dunno... once I got sentry drones I can't imagine myself using combat ship without them. they are my bread and butter. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Himbeergeist
Knights of the Empire Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.08.02 09:26:00 -
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All Marauders perform similar for sniping purposes. Up close they differ in potential dps and difficulty of application.
Pick the one that has the best damage types for what rats you shoot and stop worrying. |
Xanato Kaso
Kaso Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.08.03 00:38:00 -
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I just recently got my Paladin and I LOVE it. I warp in, drop an MTU, bastion mode. And by the time the dust settles all the wrecks are in a nice little pile by my ship awaiting my salvage drones to devour them. |
Zierohour
Arma Purgatorium Neutral in Local.
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Posted - 2014.08.05 11:25:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect.
And thus is why you always set bastion module recycle to off.. yes you have to hit it every 60 secs to restart it..... normally you don't need 60 secs to be done with bastion. At least that is how my pally goes. |
Zierohour
Arma Purgatorium Neutral in Local.
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Posted - 2014.08.05 11:26:00 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. This is why I've stepped away from my paladin, I know it will happen to me sooner or later. Most likely sooner. Turn auto cycle off =/
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.05 11:54:00 -
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Zierohour wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. And thus is why you always set bastion module recycle to off.. yes you have to hit it every 60 secs to restart it..... normally you don't need 60 secs to be done with bastion. At least that is how my pally goes. Last I checked, if bastion is up when you disconnect, you stay on the field regardless of auto cycle being on or off. Because your ship only attempts emergency warp once.
If this changed, then please elaborate. |
Swalesify
Solar Vista. Dead Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.08.05 14:15:00 -
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Zierohour wrote:Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Only downside of a marauder is if you rely too much on bastion for tank they can die easy on disconnect. This is why I've stepped away from my paladin, I know it will happen to me sooner or later. Most likely sooner. Turn auto cycle off =/
Tried this, but until they fix the Golem's phantom missile bug it's really not a viable method. If missiles are mid flight when bastion is enabled/disabled the missiles will do nothing.
My Golem has survived a couple DC's, the trouble is that killing the scramblers makes no difference if you're still in bastion when you DC, you won't warp off |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
576
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Posted - 2014.08.05 14:36:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Personally I consider this to be the only really heavy downside of Marauders. They are slower than other BSs, cost more, etc., but the disconnect thing is the only really unsettling thing about them in my opinion. Actually Marauders have 10% higher warp speed than other BS hulls. (except the Mach of course) Since this stacks with warp speed implants it can more than make up for their slower align time in many cases. |
Zuteh
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.08 02:54:00 -
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Now if only the Sin and the Kronos switched roles, and maybe hulls for good measure (the fat lady likes to sing) that would offer some much needed variation and choice. Bastion mode can affect drone speed, range and HP. Stop hating on drones CCP |
Armor Uta
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.09 19:06:00 -
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Zuteh wrote:Now if only the Sin and the Kronos switched roles, and maybe hulls for good measure (the fat lady likes to sing) that would offer some much needed variation and choice. Bastion mode can affect drone speed, range and HP. Stop hating on drones CCP
I wish there was a drone marauder, would make me consider training to sit in one. Fly a rattler myself so with my skills my only reasonable choice is the golem unless I want train guns from scratch. |
Zuteh
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:06:00 -
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Armor Uta wrote:Zuteh wrote:Now if only the Sin and the Kronos switched roles, and maybe hulls for good measure (the fat lady likes to sing) that would offer some much needed variation and choice. Bastion mode can affect drone speed, range and HP. Stop hating on drones CCP I wish there was a drone marauder, would make me consider training to sit in one. Fly a rattler myself so with my skills my only reasonable choice is the golem unless I want train guns from scratch.
I flew Rattlesnake and Nestor a while, rattler is a bit yawn, I do like the laser with drones config tough, but lately I found the Eos much better, the "Commander" just feels right, especially when dual boxing with an Ishtar. 4 Geckos going in 4KM/s with 10x damage is kinda neat wanna-be carrier |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1178
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:34:00 -
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With the current state of reprocessing loot its looking like ac mach is your best bet. Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
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