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Uatu Goro
Uatu Goro Corp
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Posted - 2014.07.20 20:46:00 -
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Report from SuperData Research
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wow-was-the-top-subscription-mmo-in-2013-star-wars/1100-6421191/ |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3002
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Posted - 2014.07.20 20:48:00 -
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Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list.
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out."
-Omar Alharazaad
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
--áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
543
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Posted - 2014.07.20 20:53:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list.
QFT
"What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what."
--áAaron Birch |
Lothras Andastar
Associated North American Lovers of Dolphins
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Posted - 2014.07.20 21:06:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list.
And we wouldn't want it any other way. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
452
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Posted - 2014.07.20 21:35:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied
You are still here. obviously it doesn't.
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Ian Morbius
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Posted - 2014.07.20 21:45:00 -
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Thank you for posting the link to the data.
Death Valley & Mojave real world hardcore.
www.acronymfinder.com
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague
The Bastion
164
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Posted - 2014.07.20 21:50:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list.
My willie stronk, I use reindeer powder every night. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
5740
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:02:00 -
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McDonald's earns more total revenue than my local burger place. Obviously it must have superior products... right? Oh wait... it doesn't.
Well... my local burger place should just copy what McDonald's is doing and they should do just as well... right? Oh wait... then there would be no difference between the two and people would automatically gravitate towards the more ubiquitous and well known option (see: McDonald's).
Being more popular or having more subscriptions is not the only measurement of success... and certainly not a good metric of quality.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
8042
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:19:00 -
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Several of those listed are free to plays.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Serptimis
Boob Heads
Black Legion.
335
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:20:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list.
Very true, you'll never see EVE players whining about things or doing stupid things in game.  |
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Hicksimus
Hyperion Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:48:00 -
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Serptimis wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list. Very true, you'll never see EVE players whining about things or doing stupid things in game.
Yeah, I've never done ANYTHING like that.
Do you have it? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3012
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:53:00 -
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Serptimis wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list. Very true, you'll never see EVE players whining about things or doing stupid things in game.
Theres stupid and then theres eve stupid,
We have our own class of moron.
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out."
-Omar Alharazaad
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
--áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1025
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:59:00 -
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#1 has the same market share as 2-10 combined.
*golf clap*
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:00:00 -
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The title of this thread is a little misleading. It says "Top Subscription MMO in 2013" but the content is talking about MMOs with the highest revenue, and the report itself doesn't suggest the game with the most revenue is the better game. Revenue is not indicative of quality. Take Justin Bieber, for example.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:02:00 -
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I am confident enough in my choice of games that I don't need to jump in and angrily justify my choice. Why do you feel attacked because it might not have as much revenue as another game and someone posts a link to it? Just play the damn game and stop pretending nothing else compares, because that would be totally wrong.
You people need to ease up and stop chugging Red Bull for breakfast.
Seriously.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Serptimis
Boob Heads
Black Legion.
336
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:03:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Serptimis wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list. Very true, you'll never see EVE players whining about things or doing stupid things in game. Theres stupid and then theres eve stupid, We have our own class of moron.
EVE Online : Making regular morons look like Einstein since 2003 |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
647
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Posted - 2014.07.21 00:17:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:The title of this thread is a little misleading. It says "Top Subscription MMO in 2013" but the content is talking about MMOs with the highest revenue, and the report itself doesn't suggest the game with the most revenue is the better game. Revenue is not indicative of quality. Take Justin Bieber, for example.
I noticed that as well but I've played titles on that list and while they are freemium they do have subscription models. I've never played free LotRO. If I'm not subscribed I log in every 3 weeks and pay housing maintenance and log out. Same for Tera. I either sub or don't play.
Both of those titles also trend the direction I expect EVE to go if they ever start playing with their sub model. When they came out they had life time offers that were in the $350 US range and if CCP ever saw a need for a fast injection of cash, I expect them to go that direction. |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3980
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Posted - 2014.07.21 00:26:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The title of this thread is a little misleading. It says "Top Subscription MMO in 2013" but the content is talking about MMOs with the highest revenue, and the report itself doesn't suggest the game with the most revenue is the better game. Revenue is not indicative of quality. Take Justin Bieber, for example. I noticed that as well but I've played titles on that list and while they are freemium they do have subscription models. I've never played free LotRO. If I'm not subscribed I log in every 3 weeks and pay housing maintenance and log out. Same for Tera. I either sub or don't play. Both of those titles also trend the direction I expect EVE to go if they ever start playing with their sub model. When they came out they had life time offers that were in the $350 US range and if CCP ever saw a need for a fast injection of cash, I expect them to go that direction.
I wasn't talking about the model of payment, I was talking about the distinction between quality and value. While some may actually believe the saying, "you get what you pay for", this really only applies to the really cheap stuff that you get from those $2 shops. This thread claims this is a list of the top subscription MMOs on the market, placing EVE in 6th place. I don't care what place EVE comes, but revenue and payment model is only one data set for determining game quality in a competitive nature. There are data sets that are vital, and yet missing, if one wishes to determine which game is actually the best. This would be a difficult task, however, given that a lot of that data will be based on subjectivity.
By its very nature, EVE will never have a massive subscriber base, since those that survive it are only meant to be a select few. If it is in sixth place, objectively speaking, then it is doing incredibly well. Add to that how long it has been around, longer than WoW, and how in that time it has thrived, and we have a very healthy game on our hands.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
648
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Posted - 2014.07.21 01:07:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Ocih wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The title of this thread is a little misleading. It says "Top Subscription MMO in 2013" but the content is talking about MMOs with the highest revenue, and the report itself doesn't suggest the game with the most revenue is the better game. Revenue is not indicative of quality. Take Justin Bieber, for example. I noticed that as well but I've played titles on that list and while they are freemium they do have subscription models. I've never played free LotRO. If I'm not subscribed I log in every 3 weeks and pay housing maintenance and log out. Same for Tera. I either sub or don't play. Both of those titles also trend the direction I expect EVE to go if they ever start playing with their sub model. When they came out they had life time offers that were in the $350 US range and if CCP ever saw a need for a fast injection of cash, I expect them to go that direction. I wasn't talking about the model of payment, I was talking about the distinction between quality and value. While some may actually believe the saying, "you get what you pay for", this really only applies to the really cheap stuff that you get from those $2 shops. This thread claims this is a list of the top subscription MMOs on the market, placing EVE in 6th place. I don't care what place EVE comes, but revenue and payment model is only one data set for determining game quality in a competitive nature. There are data sets that are vital, and yet missing, if one wishes to determine which game is actually the best. This would be a difficult task, however, given that a lot of that data will be based on subjectivity. By its very nature, EVE will never have a massive subscriber base, since those that survive it are only meant to be a select few. If it is in sixth place, objectively speaking, then it is doing incredibly well. Add to that how long it has been around, longer than WoW, and how in that time it has thrived, and we have a very healthy game on our hands.
I'm pretty sure that's where the OP was going too. I was surprised to see Tera doing that well, the same for LotRO. I liked both for what they were but I didn't think they were doing that well. I kind of always knew EVE was punching way above her weight. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4165
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:32:00 -
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Breaking news: MMO which has been dying since 2003 still at #6 on the list of Top subbed MMOs in 2014 |
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:35:00 -
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https://games.yahoo.com/board/
You have to scroll 75% down this page to find Chess. Chess is dying. Losing subs to poker.
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Schentoo Linux
I Really Hate You Guys
0
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Posted - 2014.07.21 07:36:00 -
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I play #4 on the list while im waiting on Eve's skills to finish. So i'm playing something else 6 days of the week.... |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
2204
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:42:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Breaking news: MMO which has been dying since 2003 still at #6 on the list of Top subbed MMOs in 2013
That actually says more about other games on that list than it says about Eve.
Eve Online Overview Wizard:
Forum thread
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:45:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:https://games.yahoo.com/board/
You have to scroll 75% down this page to find Chess. Chess is dying. Losing subs to poker.
Then again, chess is a pretty bad game and in dire need of some patching, so that's only to be expected.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Alastair Ormand
Running With Scissors.
Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:01:00 -
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It disgusts me that so many people still play WoW. Such a pathetic game now. And after playing Eve for over a year, it sorta always was.
Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:57:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid... Not true. If it was true, I wouldn't be here...
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sibyyl wrote:https://games.yahoo.com/board/
You have to scroll 75% down this page to find Chess. Chess is dying. Losing subs to poker. Then again, chess is a pretty bad game and in dire need of some patching, so that's only to be expected.
Nerf queen too OP Kites my king every fight. My bishop can also kite but it has **** bad tracking while the rook can also kite but has bad agility and cap. |
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
249
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:03:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and weak willied,
I'm surprised it's that high on the list.
Disagree. I have met some very driven yet very stupid people in New Eden.
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Kijimea
Mulors
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:11:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:It disgusts me that so many people still play WoW. Such a pathetic game now. And after playing Eve for over a year, it sorta always was.
And still EvE Community is worse. When i look at the forums here and those wanna be einstein and psycho comments i just cannot stand to keep on reading this ****. Also, never seen more bullshit than ingame eve bio's. I've been Ultima Veteran and hated the WoW Community once all those kiddos came from CS. But EvE community really disappointed and me and pisses me off everytime.
just my 2 cents |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3991
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:18:00 -
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Kijimea wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:It disgusts me that so many people still play WoW. Such a pathetic game now. And after playing Eve for over a year, it sorta always was. And still EvE Community is worse. When i look at the forums here and those wanna be einstein and psycho comments i just cannot stand to keep on reading this ****. Also, never seen more bullshit than ingame eve bio's. I've been Ultima Veteran and hated the WoW Community once all those kiddos came from CS. But EvE community really disappointed and me and pisses me off everytime. just my 2 cents
Did you just pop a cyanide pill or is that just froth on your mouth?
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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