In before lock.

Oh, and can I have the stuff of that third account if ends up dropping? I promise I will use it for nefarious purposes.

Nah, I have between three and seven active accounts at any one time. On second thought, what is it skilled in? I've been considering buying a character, but for a more specialized purpose than I imagine your alt has been trained for, but no harm in asking.

2 because I am not peasant and pay with real monies

If you honestly cannot make 2.5b a month extra with THREE accounts you're doing it wrong.

Planned to drop 2 100mil chars aka accounts but suitable games didn't emerge for me as of yet,as soon as that happens il drop em largely by my realization that i am not getting enough bang for a back from them.

EvE dropped in value for me to single acc not even payed one plexed one but due to my laziness and lack of suitable replacement i keep em running on CC just renew 1y sub on one of em few days ago.

Can we share our very limited personal experiences with each other, and then pretend that this accurately translates into a big picture that reads "EVE is dying"?

That sounds like fun.

For every account you unsub, I'll sub three.

I've never had more than two active accounts at any given time.

Translated :'' OMG MY PASSIVE INCOME doesn't fully support plex anymore , outrageous '''

I had 2 now I have 3, there goes your theory about CCP losing money due to :reasons:

So afk income no longer lets you enjoy certain parts of the game? Looks like that free market democracy is finally dping its job huh. Damn shame it is to work for a living.

For a week, I'd like to see CCP only allow subscribers to use one character. The breakdown would be epic.

I've actually increased my number of accounts by 6 in recent times, possibly because I'm not a poor, lazy pleb.

My +1 account makes same difference as your -1 account.

For some reason you think that few people who are forum regulars and just happen to agree with you are viable sample of whole silent majority who at this very moment probably subbed god knows how many alts. In same way you could say that everybody is ganking freighters (almost everybody in relevant threads is doing it) or everybody is flying rattlesnake (which happens to be quite popular suggestion in L4s related threads).

OMG, PLEX is expensive I unsubbed, Eve is dead!!!oneone11!

Yes, servers will go dark because few people can't PLEX themselves with AFK ishtars so easily so they cancel 1 sub.

Seems to me there are three types of accounts (with some minor exceptions):

. 'Mains' --> the one(s) you play and have fun with, the reason you play EVE
. 'Support' --> the one(s) that directly support your mains' gameplay, such as cyno alts, links or haulers
. 'Wage workers' --> the one(s) you use exclusively to make ISK

Wage worker accounts need to make a total of more than 1 PLEX/month (or 1/3 PLEX/month per character) to be worthwhile. When PLEX prices rise, several wage workers get fired. No big deal, nobody was actually having fun with them in the first place.

OP you're describing your accounts as wage workers, so no big deal in your case.


OTOH, mains and support accounts should ideally be worth paying 15$/month for because the enjoyment you get out of them is well worth it. Compared to, say, eating lunch at an affordable restaurant.

If that isn't the case, CCP has a problem in the first place (either unsatisfied customers or customers with too low disposable income); people unsubbing mains due to rising PLEX prices just brings the problem to the surface.

You do know what AFK stands for ?AWAY FROM KEYBOARD , or are you telling me that your planets somehow only produce when you are actively online unlike all the other PI that is done?

Passive isk to me is when you gain isk/assets while not actually playing the game.A miner usually is mentioned for this as they can be semi or fully afk .But it also involves other means of income , like PI .The old way of letting your drones handle a mission whilest watching a movie for example could also be seen as passive income.We're not talking FREE isk we are talking passive isk so yes you stiill need to invest some time to do so and if you choose the one wich needed a 50 planet clickfest then i'd say you choose the wrong passive income.

I gathered my income over the last years mostly from investments/trade/research , all of wich are completely passive to semi passive if you do it in the way i did.I don't have anything against people gaining passive income , i do have something against people complaining about their passive income not being sufficient enough.

You think this information on the forums is somehow more comprehensive than the server and subscription data CCP has direct access to? They won't even give this thread a second glance. They don't need to.

I got some "real info" for ya:

800 / 30 = 26.66666

If you can't generate 27M isk per day on each of your accounts, you are seriously "doing it wrong."

Can I haz your name?

I'm +2 accounts, now with 3 total, all payed subs. I might get the two new ones to make enough to plex all three. But this has nothing to do with game mechanics or changes. It is mostly because I have more time to play when I'm single. When I find a new woman to hang out with, I'm quite certain I'll drop back down to 1 account.

I find the "waaaaa Im quiting!" posts to be more indicative of emotioh\nal attachment than the reasoned responses that put it in perspective.

Look, I think there is some value in lodging complaints.. and sometimes it even makes sense to use GD as a platform for doing so. For an example of a spectacular failure, see the guys in the Kronos drone skill change threads (they didn't even get points refunded that CCP dev admitted they were due). For an example of a success, look at the Ero1 threadnaught.

Nonetheless, if there's something about EVE that you think is going in a negative direction, I think it makes sense to have a constructive discussion around it. Do you think there are realistic solutions that CCP could look at? Could it be possible that what you perceive as a problem actually isn't? There are lots of questions one could ask..

CCP can look at this thread and find 30 people who have dropped two accounts a piece. Great. Good vent. But what do you really want to accomplish? Is there some intelligent correlation you can draw from the information people have given you so far?

Or maybe none of this matters.

It sounds like you (and too many others) are plexing for plexings sake, and that will inevitably raise prices. Ccp needs to care about how many plexes are sold and consumed, more than just accounts plexed. If plex prices go down, I will consume them for dual training, if they stay high, I won't.

Pi from what I can see is partially intended as an analogue to daily quests, for people that like that something needs attention when they log on, and partially designed to remove npc item sourcing, it was however not specifically designed for free extra accounts.

The real concern here is that the OP believes it would take 72 planet PI to earn enough to pay for 4 accounts.

First, your base assumption that I have reduced my accounts is flawed, I have the same amount.

Secondly, I have actually increased my ISK spending by starting 2 new alt training queues.

Increased from 3 to 5 in the last 6 months

Several of those I encouraged to play in the first place have gone from 1 to 2 or 3.

Seeing no reason to unsub

And ain't you just the cutest thang, thinking anyone cares

All I see is 10 pages of folks pulling the "waaa, Im quitting" gig you started.

..uh-huh, says the Grammar Police...

It's good to learn it all meant so much to you. It's good to know you put so much time, attention and consideration in your "accounts" that you counted them as keepsakes. That being said:
It's tragic to learn you just HAD to part with them to prove some point.

It makes me want to...

QQ!

if you're a miner, you won't drop from 3 accounts to 2.

I'm not sure the hisec POCOs have caused any price drop with PI prices. That change was a while back after all. At the time I wouldn't be surprised if there was a price increase in PI goods. We stopped doing PI at that point after the null sec entities took over large proportions of the POCOs. It became too much of a pain in the ****.

I expect the industry changes with infinite slots and cancelling bonuses for multiple arrays will have affected the P3 & P4 prices though.

Still will never understand how people can't make 26 million isk per day per account , to the point where it's time to get rid of accounts lol.

This one easy as hell lvl 4 mission provides enough isk (if you loot/salvage) to provide a plex if you do one per day, and it's not even the best mission, it takes now time at all to complete in a tech 1 BS.

If you're not using it, why did you get it?

No one said anything about keeping accounts you aren't using. This is what you said in the 1st post: you didn't say anything about 'not needing' any account, you specifically mention cost.

Don't try to pretend you aren't whining about plex prices.

So not actually related to PLEX or exploration at all, then.

Seriously, you left one personal attack there and erased another one, how utterly ignorant.

I am up two accounts from a month ago. People complaining about the price of PLEX are shortsighted. I can 'grind' $20 IRL in about an hour working an odd job on weekends. It makes a whole lot more sense for me to buy plex and sell it in game to make the ISK I want than it does to grind enough out in game to buy a plex.

Measure how hard it is to pay your subscription in hours spent (in or out of game), not by how much ISK a plex is. Ignore grinding out your PI for an hour and pick up a temp. job for an hour IRL. that will make you more ISK for an hour's work than in game will.