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Ket Malice
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:01:00 -
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People can just declare war on a corp and nothing you can do about it? So basically Bigger Corps can declare war on a smaller corp and basically hunt them in 1.0 space...just me or is this a bit flawed?
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:02:00 -
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Welcome to EvE.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:02:00 -
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Alt again! >.<
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Areno Pechalium
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:02:00 -
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You can cry?
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:03:00 -
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Yeah, run around in a quick frig and watch them fail 
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:03:00 -
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Working as intended. Learn to fight them. Smaller means easier to out-smart them and the hunter becomes the hunted. 
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:03:00 -
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QFT! ^
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Ket Malice
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:05:00 -
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No I mean its good because you can use it to your advantage. But most games I have played that have allowed "guild" wars it took both guilds accepting the war.
Other then disbanding your corp is there any way to overcome this? Aside from hunting their miners.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:06:00 -
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Uhhhm Not a clue...
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:07:00 -
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Its griefing if they do 90% of the time.
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Terraform
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:07:00 -
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bigger corps will rarely declare war on a small corp... unless you have something they want, and if that's the case.. well... then you're out of luck.. just like in real life...
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Pika Eadesso
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Pika Eadesso on 03/07/2006 22:09:50
 Originally by: Ket Malice
No I mean its good because you can use it to your advantage. But most games I have played that have allowed "guild" wars it took both guilds accepting the war.
Other then disbanding your corp is there any way to overcome this? Aside from hunting their miners.
Nope, if another corp can cover the war costs, your fair game. A little suckie I know, and I can see how it can be percived as griefing, but its what makes EvE special, the fact you are never 100% safe. (Unless you stay docked, but then you get no moeny, not fun either).
Have you tried sending a mail off to the CEO of the corp who decced you and at least see what its over? Tried to come to an agreement on ending the war? Are you actually at war or just asking? :)
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Krulla on 03/07/2006 22:11:02
Originally by: Ket Malice
No I mean its good because you can use it to your advantage. But most games I have played that have allowed "guild" wars it took both guilds accepting the war.
The difference is, EvE's politics actually matter and aren't consentual.
That's the point of a war. To hurt the other bastard. Wether he likes it or not. It wouldn't be much of a war if you asked for their permission first.
However, if the wardecced corp accepts the war, the war is at no cost to anyone.
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Ket Malice
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:11:00 -
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Yeah war was declared on me, its just a friend and I in the corp, we just started playing like a week and a half ago. I had a set of +1 implants and just had gotten a cruiser, not to mention I lost like a days worth of SP. Oh well though.
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Ragga daPhunk
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:24:00 -
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Hello!
You never asked us why we delcared war on you, but i will tell you. Last friday you and your friend stole ore from us, several times, and laughed in our faces and we couldn't do anything about it. You were even able to dock at the station, which i thought was impossible when comitting a crime.
So, since we couldn't get you that day to tell you never do it again, we needed to go this more expensive way of telling you.
you chose a pirates life and this is what you get.
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Sul Sonic
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ragga daPhunk
Hello!
You never asked us why we delcared war on you, but i will tell you. Last friday you and your friend stole ore from us, several times, and laughed in our faces and we couldn't do anything about it. You were even able to dock at the station, which i thought was impossible when comitting a crime.
So, since we couldn't get you that day to tell you never do it again, we needed to go this more expensive way of telling you.
you chose a pirates life and this is what you get.
well, that takes care of that.
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:31:00 -
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You can fight back. option 1 option 2
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ket Malice
Yeah war was declared on me, its just a friend and I in the corp, we just started playing like a week and a half ago. I had a set of +1 implants and just had gotten a cruiser, not to mention I lost like a days worth of SP. Oh well though.
When you die, you lose 5% of your highest trained skill, IF you dont have a clone that covers all your skillpoints. You should have one, at all times.
Eve allows stuff like war declaring newbies (not newbies in npc newbie corps though). You guys might have a hard time ahead of you. Sometimes moving to another system will help, specially if its a long way from the other corps home system. Griefers just want to kill people, and usually they dont like to travel 20 jumps to attack 2 people.
You can also recruit some more pvp oriented guys into the corp... to help with the fights. Or get friends to help you. Dont give up... fight back or avoid the fights and they will get bored. Hopefully.
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Sigurd Ross
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ragga daPhunk
Hello!
You never asked us why we delcared war on you, but i will tell you. Last friday you and your friend stole ore from us, several times, and laughed in our faces and we couldn't do anything about it. You were even able to dock at the station, which i thought was impossible when comitting a crime.
So, since we couldn't get you that day to tell you never do it again, we needed to go this more expensive way of telling you.
you chose a pirates life and this is what you get.
Justice is served!
Don't you love how griefing ore-thieves can get what's coming to them here? In other MMOs, you can have some scumbag chase you around, stealing your stuff, all day. To hell with em! 
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:39:00 -
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Its to insure that desirable BPO's stay in the hands of pvpers.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Its griefing if they do 90% of the time.
i WILL come round to yours and slap u if u dont STOP using GRIEF!! I hate that word!
(i cant believe u dnt watch me play footie when i was in your town anywy )
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Pika Eadesso
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:41:00 -
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I dun get it, Morg O.o
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Asm0dai
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:55:00 -
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Hello Ket.
See you in 48 hours.
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ragga daPhunk
Hello!
You never asked us why we delcared war on you, but i will tell you. Last friday you and your friend stole ore from us, several times, and laughed in our faces and we couldn't do anything about it. You were even able to dock at the station, which i thought was impossible when comitting a crime.
So, since we couldn't get you that day to tell you never do it again, we needed to go this more expensive way of telling you.
you chose a pirates life and this is what you get.
wow, just kill them whenever they steal your ore ffs...war dec'ing them just seems a little...i dunno, overreactionary?
Originally by: Tekka
Originally by: ISD
"Can I have your stuff?" isn't constructive
neither is 95% of the internet
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Andargor theWise
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Andargor theWise on 03/07/2006 22:56:31
Originally by: Ket Malice
People can just declare war on a corp and nothing you can do about it? So basically Bigger Corps can declare war on a smaller corp and basically hunt them in 1.0 space...just me or is this a bit flawed?
So let me get this straight, people can steal ore from noobs thinking there are no consequences?
Separate incident we tried to resolve with you diplomatically today, but you stonewalled us.
Expect an evemail soon.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.03 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Drizit on 03/07/2006 23:37:14
Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Ragga daPhunk
Hello!
You never asked us why we delcared war on you, but i will tell you. Last friday you and your friend stole ore from us, several times, and laughed in our faces and we couldn't do anything about it. You were even able to dock at the station, which i thought was impossible when comitting a crime.
So, since we couldn't get you that day to tell you never do it again, we needed to go this more expensive way of telling you.
you chose a pirates life and this is what you get.
wow, just kill them whenever they steal your ore ffs...war dec'ing them just seems a little...i dunno, overreactionary?
Not really. They docked to avoid the timer so couldn;t be ganked without Concord intervention. This provides a good method of getting back at them.
Be nice to one and make a friend. Crap on one and make a sh*t load of enemies. 
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.03 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ket Malice
just me or is this a bit flawed?
Just you.
Originally by: Ket Malice
most games I have played that have allowed "guild" wars it took both guilds accepting the war.
How very boring.
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AceOfSpace
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Posted - 2006.07.04 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: AceOfSpace on 04/07/2006 00:10:59
Originally by: Novarei
Originally by: Ket Malice
just me or is this a bit flawed?
Just you.
Don't listen to him. A lot of people share your view that it is flawed.
If Concord were any good, everyone would be immune from war in highsec. The present system is like bribing the police, only it costs almost nothing.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.04 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: AceOfSpace
Don't listen to him. A lot of people share your view that it is flawed.
If Concord were any good, everyone would be immune from war in highsec. The present system is like bribing the police, only it costs almost nothing.
Under certain circumstances you are right, it should be harder for a corp to war dec another in highsec if there is little or no reason for it. It's true that there are griefers who do it just to wreak havoc with noobs starting up their own corps.
However, the corp who war decced the OP had justified cause and were not doing it to grief but to show them what happens when you choose a criminal lifestyle and steal from others who work hard for their income. They are not doing it for fun, it has cost them in ore losses and also the cost of the war dec and I wish them luck in teaching the low life thieves a valuable lesson about who you choose to p*ss off in this game.
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Ket Malice
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Posted - 2006.07.04 00:35:00 -
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Lol we stole one can of like 5k pyroxes ore, and we left the can their anyways. We were just out messing around.
I do kind of want to be a pirate, steal, pillage etc. Ragga lol we went outside several times, I believe you guys even blew one of our ships up. We are looking for PvP but a some what controlled state, we are noobs, so if we step out into 0.4 space we die before our warp is done.
The declaration of war is really dumb though. Basically it means I cant go afk with autopilot on, lesson learned though.
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