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Katarina Hetiako	Posted - 2006.07.03 23:58:00 - [1] I was informed in a local channel that it is an exploit to eject from your spaceship after docking has been accepted. This 'exploit' allows a pilot to send a ship to dock in station whilst allowing the pilot to remain outside station in his capsule. Is this an exploit as I have recently been informed? I don't want to get banned for something I had no idea was illegal.
Novarei	Posted - 2006.07.03 23:59:00 - [2] There would be a lot of banned people if it was a bannable offence ;) --------------------
Katarina Hetiako	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Novarei There would be a lot of banned people if it was a bannable offence ;) Which is what I thought, anyone know different?
Avon	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:02:00 - [4] It is fine unless a GM says otherwise. It is a feature that has been used for a very, very long time. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
SGXiphias	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:02:00 - [5] we should be able to undock in our pods, pretty stupid that you cant and is the reason you see 6,000,000,000,000 shuttles outside certain stations from people clone jumping.
Kerushi	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Avon It is fine unless a GM says otherwise. It is a feature that has been used for a very, very long time. even longer, since beta yea, would be nice to undock in a pod instead of cluttering shuttles up every where or n00b ships ________________ I don't DO graphics, here's a sig anyway, wubwoo - Cortes lol thanks :-)
Cadiz	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:47:00 - [7] Why the hell would that even be categorized as an exploit in the first place? ------ Director, Blood Moon Horde "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Antaris Xenal	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:50:00 - [8] I saw like 15 shuttle about 15KM from a gate once, all empty lol
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:52:00 - [9] Edited by: Scorpyn on 04/07/2006 00:52:32 Originally by: Cadiz Why the hell would that even be categorized as an exploit in the first place? Because it's a way of taking advantage of the session change? Edit : Personally I'd rather have the option of undocking in a pod.
Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Katarina Hetiako I was informed in a local channel that it is an exploit to eject from your spaceship after docking has been accepted. This 'exploit' allows a pilot to send a ship to dock in station whilst allowing the pilot to remain outside station in his capsule. Is this an exploit as I have recently been informed? I don't want to get banned for something I had no idea was illegal. Its a Feature, pure and simple. Unless you "like" seeing 20+ abandoned shuttles outside bases...... CCP will tell us when it is no longer a "feature".
Kel Shek	Posted - 2006.07.04 00:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Scorpyn Edited by: Scorpyn on 04/07/2006 00:52:32 Originally by: Cadiz Why the hell would that even be categorized as an exploit in the first place? Because it's a way of taking advantage of the session change? Edit : Personally I'd rather have the option of undocking in a pod. and this is exactly a problem... why? I mean who cares? hows it harm anyone, or cause any problems in any way whatsoever? ~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.07.04 01:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Kel Shek and this is exactly a problem... why? I mean who cares? hows it harm anyone, or cause any problems in any way whatsoever? I personally don't consider it to be a problem, I was merely answering why it could be considered to be an exploit. Sorry for being unclear.
Kuma Korosu	Posted - 2006.07.04 01:11:00 - [13] Edited by: Kuma Korosu on 04/07/2006 01:11:51 Noob question here. Why do people do this? What benefit is it to eject and let your ship dock unmanned?
Aversin	Posted - 2006.07.04 01:14:00 - [14] so they can then self-destruct their pod and 'clone jump' Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2006.07.04 01:15:00 - [15] I do it so i can actually move ships from a POS to a station without having to bring something BACK. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Ket Malice	Posted - 2006.07.04 01:15:00 - [16] If you want to get techinical, it is hurting the shuttle producers...
IsmaelYU5 Iluvatar	Posted - 2006.07.04 02:28:00 - [17] Edited by: IsmaelYU5 Iluvatar on 04/07/2006 02:29:28 the ejecting when docking thing has nothing to do with all the shuttles in front of a station when u eject while the docking msg apears on the screen the ship will!!! dock that way u can bring ships into station without need a new one to fly back so this doesnt cause all the shuttles or anything else outside of a station. the method was invented (ok not invented but become normal method) after it wasnt possible anymore to eject inside station and only fly around in your pod. this patch also ended the amounts of eggs in the hangers that where left when boarding a ship in hangers. befor the egg was left in your hanger like any ship today when switching them so realy dont see a reason why this should be an exploid. it just let u transport ships without needing a tranny ------------ An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
Arcsine	Posted - 2006.07.04 03:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Katarina Hetiako I was informed in a local channel that it is an exploit to eject from your spaceship after docking has been accepted. Hey, I make my living selling those abandoned shuttles!
Kylania	Posted - 2006.07.04 04:06:00 - [19] Originally by: Katarina Hetiako I was informed in a local channel that it is an exploit to eject from your spaceship after docking has been accepted. This 'exploit' allows a pilot to send a ship to dock in station whilst allowing the pilot to remain outside station in his capsule. Is this an exploit as I have recently been informed? I don't want to get banned for something I had no idea was illegal. I petitioned that very issue a few months ago and was told that it was cheesy, but not an exploit at the time. I haven't heard anything that would indicate that it's become an exploit since. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| Visual Building Guide (Both work in game too!)
Spanker	Posted - 2006.07.04 05:37:00 - [20] Originally by: IsmaelYU5 Iluvatar it just let u transport ships without needing a tranny
Ann Mari	Posted - 2006.07.04 06:00:00 - [21] On a side note... In the old days we could undock our pods and fly around in them. No Idea why this was changed tbh.... ///End "There can be no justice, if rules are absolute" "The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"
Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2006.07.04 06:07:00 - [22] Originally by: Kuma Korosu Edited by: Kuma Korosu on 04/07/2006 01:11:51 Noob question here. Why do people do this? What benefit is it to eject and let your ship dock unmanned? Many reasons. Bought a new ship and want to go pick it up? Want to go scout a mission without getting rat agro. Clone jumping. Checking out 'roid belts quicker. the list goes on.
Dahak2150	Posted - 2006.07.04 06:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Brutor Shaun Originally by: Kuma Korosu Edited by: Kuma Korosu on 04/07/2006 01:11:51 Noob question here. Why do people do this? What benefit is it to eject and let your ship dock unmanned? Many reasons. Bought a new ship and want to go pick it up? Want to go scout a mission without getting rat agro. Clone jumping. Checking out 'roid belts quicker. the list goes on. You forgot salvaging newbie frigates for nights when your corp gets really bored :) One day, when we get enough, I want to have a multi-man newbie frigate furball with my corp. Just a total free-for-all.
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:00:00 - [24] not an exploit atm but it is cheezy
Kendar	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Antaris Xenal I saw like 15 shuttle about 15KM from a gate once, all empty lol I've seen more ^^ Linkage
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:38:00 - [26] Originally by: IsmaelYU5 Iluvatar so realy dont see a reason why this should be an exploid. it just let u transport ships without needing a tranny If it were going to be an exploit, that would be exactly why. It's an unintended method that people use to avoid the cost of a shuttle. Not really worth bothering over, to be honest. But if someone at CCP really wanted to, they have a reason to ban it. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Jon Hawkes	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Ann Mari On a side note... In the old days we could undock our pods and fly around in them. No Idea why this was changed tbh.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I was able to undock in my pod a couple of days ago, so maybe it's been changed again.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Jon Hawkes Originally by: Ann Mari On a side note... In the old days we could undock our pods and fly around in them. No Idea why this was changed tbh.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I was able to undock in my pod a couple of days ago, so maybe it's been changed again. If you've arrived at the station in your pod, and undock without having changed into a different ship, yes you can undock again while still in it. But if you switch to a ship, the pod disappears (it's auto-trashed), and if you arrived in a ship, there's no way to eject your pod from it while inside the station. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Crumplecorn	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:47:00 - [29] I don't think CCP would be stupid enough to classify this as an exploit without giving us a proper alternative. But it would be nice if they did replace it with something proper, like ejecting in stations. It was a long time before I heard about this, and it can be quite handy. ---------- Throwing ships away doing stupid things since April '06
Pinky Denmark	Posted - 2006.07.04 08:14:00 - [30] you get 2.000 isk for selfdestructing your uninsured shuttle - small isk but still over 20% back from waiting pressing selfdestruct before you eject and self-destruct you pod as well...

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