The new UI is intuitive and slick. It makes jobs so much easier. I am also liking the new planetary tab where you can quickly access your PI.

Nice work CCP and Thanks!

Now to bid for some funky teams :)

Training industry skills to get 100% refining / reprocessing only to have it taken away seems like a punch in the gut.

Haha sucks for you.

The new UI is intuitive and slick. It makes jobs so much easier. I am also liking the new planetary tab where you can quickly access your PI.

Nice work CCP and Thanks!

Now to bid for some funky teams :)

About team bigging.

Am I missing some auto refressing button somewhere?
Or does it really owrks in away that yu can send last second bid and then the auction just ends?

Or both?

I mean that some of the teams have sold with sum of ISK I never saw in auction tab.

The new UI is intuitive and slick. It makes jobs so much easier. I am also liking the new planetary tab where you can quickly access your PI.

Nice work CCP and Thanks!

Now to bid for some funky teams :)

Did it make producing drugs easier?

Training industry skills to get 100% refining / reprocessing only to have it taken away seems like a punch in the gut.

CCP has bowed to the null sec cartels and gankers and with this industry patch pretty much told us hi sec dwellers to go sit on a pole.

No appreciation here. 52% refine from 100% which took months of training and grind.
Retrievers costing 37 mill to build that are on the market for 27
All scaling's are at 10% EVERYWHERE!! Ive looked in hi/low sec. Bet its awesome in null.

Feels like I've had a solid kick in the slabs.

Slick interface but unfortunately I'm bowing out of the mining/industry business after 4 years. Don't say yay for a new PVP player, the cost ships will become will make it impossible to replace. And no I will NOT buy plexes

Well I've been playing it for a couple of hours and came to this conclusion

CCP has bowed to the null sec cartels and gankers and with this industry patch pretty much told us hi sec dwellers to go sit on a pole.

roll on elite 4

3 years of grinding station in every faction to get 100% all taken away with a patch.
Ridiculous manufacturing costs in low and hi sec.
Ridiculous BP research prices and nerfed bps.
Gankers already rubbing their hands together waiting to attack POS's for the chance of someone putting in a BPO for research or manufacture.

Having to grind grind grind to get less isk than Hi sec industry used to pay. No I will not buy plexes to fund PVP gameplay I see that is the target here.

Null sec seems to have had a buff and none of this affects them. Only hurts us industrialists in HI sec.

Why do I have to be forced to go to null sec? I have no interest in null sec.

I stand by what I said

They are not nerfered. You never got any advantage once you got ME and PE to over 20 anyway in the old system.

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Training industry skills to get 100% refining / reprocessing only to have it taken away seems like a punch in the gut.

They are. I have an Erebus BPC I just checked, requires an extra 50 components for each capital part now, so that's about 10B added on to build cost :)

3 years of grinding station in every faction to get 100% all taken away with a patch.
Ridiculous manufacturing costs in low and hi sec.
Ridiculous BP research prices and nerfed bps.
Gankers already rubbing their hands together waiting to attack POS's for the chance of someone putting in a BPO for research or manufacture.

Having to grind grind grind to get less isk than Hi sec industry used to pay. No I will not buy plexes to fund PVP gameplay I see that is the target here.

Null sec seems to have had a buff and none of this affects them. Only hurts us industrialists in HI sec.

Why do I have to be forced to go to null sec? I have no interest in null sec.

I stand by what I said

are you also taking into account that they removed 'waste' and readded this into the build of the unit? where as before they did not do that?

This is for you.

Time to spread your wings and leave highsec if you want the best rewards.

+1 Only thing on eve today that's made me smile.
Null sec isn't for a solo player. I like being solo. I like ( liked) eve not corps.
Im going to have an eve break get rid of this bitterness. If it doesn't go away ill distribute my stuff.

are you also taking into account that they removed 'waste' and readded this into the build of the unit? where as before they did not do that?

No appreciation here. 52% refine from 100% which took months of training and grind.
Retrievers costing 37 mill to build that are on the market for 27
All scaling's are at 10% EVERYWHERE!! Ive looked in hi/low sec. Bet its awesome in null.

Feels like I've had a solid kick in the slabs.

Slick interface but unfortunately I'm bowing out of the mining/industry business after 4 years. Don't say yay for a new PVP player, the cost ships will become will make it impossible to replace. And no I will NOT buy plexes

Players Online <30k.
In a day when important mini expansion go live!
Did someone in CCP miscalculated , what needs to be changed or fixed in order for people click "Reactivate Account" button?

Well... CCP kinda saved my ass. I'm what real industrials call an utter failure at research. The person to mock.
My personal project to have a researched T1 BPO of every kind was taking quite a while. The mods were all 250/250 (including "old" rigs - now large) and the ships 100/100.

Now I cant fail anymore. I may even finish my project before old age prevents me from logging in. So.... thank you CCP?

Feel free to tell us all how you market a change in spreadsheet eve to new players from the likes of wow and call of duty.

You don't. They are not welcome. Not everything should be easy, neat and chewable. Not everything should be monetized, sleek and come with facebook login support.

Do you even know the meaning of the word 'monetize'?

Yes, trying to milk every last penny out of every damn feature.

Yes, trying to milk every last penny out of every damn feature.

Sigh....

you do realize that eve was made in 2000... and that when it was released in 2003 the tred was for more GHZ. So most if not all of ccp's old code was written to be optimized for single core more ghz units. Then someone got this brillat idea to add more cores to a processor. So CCP's code could not scale. But CCP kept plowing ahead, and made more single core code. Eventually they went 'yea we have to fix this' which is where we are. Changing the industry features is not about milking it for all its worth. Its abut removing old single core code and going to multicore. Also, the way things worked back in 2003 which was the last time industry was looked out, are out dated and old. And some of the reasoning for doing things a certin way no longer make sense/are invalid. So they decided to change it.

If the game doesn't evolve it dies. In order to evolve things needs to change. My guess is, a lot of stuff people are laughing at as lame now will actually tie into the bigger picture once all the pecies are in place. But we will see. If they are working towards a single huge goal, then all the little pieces won't make sense till they are all done.

No, you have to stay under that laundry factory for the forseeable future.

Wat?

How does industry being dumbed down have anything to with how many cores my cpu has? Only thing this patch has boosted is the few big alliances wallets.

The new UI is intuitive and slick. It makes jobs so much easier. I am also liking the new planetary tab where you can quickly access your PI.

Nice work CCP and Thanks!

Now to bid for some funky teams :)

As they say in the south... "oh bless your heart." your cpu has squat to do with it, the games server cpu however...

Each piece of changed code makes the game function better. people ***** about TiDi and then whine that they wasted time dealing with industry, but if industry can now use more then one core then it will boost performance across the board. Thus less tidi. Nothing was dumbed down, things were made less clicky and annoying. Thats a benefit. My wrist thank ccp.

lets rename this patch name and call it crYus))..

Players Online <30k.
In a day when important mini expansion go live!

I am waiting for the next survey, and the devs are not going to like my response.

50 runs of Scourge Cruise missile, twice the time and a %1500 increase in install cost. This is not an improvement!

Well I've been playing it for a couple of hours and came to this conclusion

CCP has bowed to the null sec cartels and gankers and with this industry patch pretty much told us hi sec dwellers to go sit on a pole.

roll on elite 4

Thank you Kind sir.

Well I slept on it and the bitterness hasn't gone away.
Gankers in hi sec circumventing rules with -10 payers ganking docking rinse repeat.
People continually being told to HTFU when they complain.
Hi sec cartels running the show.
Being told I HAVE to PVP or go into null sec.
Plex prices making it hard to sub.
Plex becoming the main way of playing now. Have to buy to fund PVP
My style of play has been taken away and I am told not to complain. Its for the better, Yeah better for the null sec cartels.

Eve is no fun anymore. My stuff has been given away
Check doom whatever corp. In 24 hours this is bio massed Ill let my sub expire and I wont even check the forums. Time to move on.

Its been a wild 4 years Most of which I have enjoyed. Farewell my eve buddies even the ones I disagreed with wishing you all the best.

Training industry skills to get 100% refining / reprocessing only to have it taken away seems like a punch in the gut.

Gankers already rubbing their hands together waiting to attack POS's for the chance of someone putting in a BPO for research or manufacture.

Thank you Kind sir.

Well I slept on it and the bitterness hasn't gone away.
Gankers in hi sec circumventing rules with -10 payers ganking docking rinse repeat.
People continually being told to HTFU when they complain.
Hi sec cartels running the show.
Being told I HAVE to PVP or go into null sec.
Plex prices making it hard to sub.
Plex becoming the main way of playing now. Have to buy to fund PVP
My style of play has been taken away and I am told not to complain. Its for the better, Yeah better for the null sec cartels.

Eve is no fun anymore. My stuff has been given away
Check doom whatever corp. In 24 hours this is bio massed Ill let my sub expire and I wont even check the forums. Time to move on.

Its been a wild 4 years Most of which I have enjoyed. Farewell my eve buddies even the ones I disagreed with wishing you all the best.

BTW check my post history. I don't often complain. This isn't a rage quit, its quitting cos it isn't fun anymore, Fun is what I pay for.

Null sec needs a buff. Clearly you have never lived there, they should not need to import crap from HS.

No appreciation here. 52% refine from 100% which took months of training and grind.
Retrievers costing 37 mill to build that are on the market for 27
All scaling's are at 10% EVERYWHERE!! Ive looked in hi/low sec. Bet its awesome in null.

Feels like I've had a solid kick in the slabs.

Slick interface but unfortunately I'm bowing out of the mining/industry business after 4 years. Don't say yay for a new PVP player, the cost ships will become will make it impossible to replace. And no I will NOT buy plexes

Crius is the culmination of EVE economy changes that I've campaigned for for the last couple of years or so...

Meanwhile I've liquidated or long term invested most of my assets and dropped both my subscriptions.

Null sec seems to be the place, the hott spot, the juice box, the upskirt , and the top shot. So some will either die out or head to the dreaded 0.0. what will the future hold?

so, in a nutshell..get hazed EVE players?