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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:46:00 -
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Dally Lama wrote:Tippia wrote:I agree. It should be possible to scan out wrecks without having to look for the ships that created them or the anomalies or sites in which they were spawned. Holy freakin' hell. Look what we have here! What we have is a suggestion that will not do what many people imagine it will doGǪ
It's one of those GÇ£be careful what you ask forGÇ¥ suggestions. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1006
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:49:00 -
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Capital Rigs for Freighters in high sec would have helped this situation quite a bit.
But the tear-naught from carebears wanting easy-mode hauling killed that plan. You can blame them. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
849
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:52:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Salvaging was not forgotten in Crius. In fact, it was subjected to the tender mercies of only having efficiency cut in half, as opposed to total obliterations in other activities. I think this meme is appropriate somehow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g
Salvaging has now become a niche activity, I suggest you find another activity until prices stabilise, the module rebalance happens, or unicorns defeceate rainbows. One of the above may happen before the heat death of the universe.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
849
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:54:00 -
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Handar Turiant wrote:Tippia wrote:I agree. It should be possible to scan out wrecks without having to look for the ships that created them or the anomalies or sites in which they were spawned. This. Make it so.
Free kills for the terminally lazy are not currently a supported feature. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Adunh Slavy
1548
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:59:00 -
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Even if CCP had never introduced the noctis, salvage drones and the ever so handy MTU, salvage prices would still have fallen over time. Players simply get more efficient at doing things.
Lower rig prices are not a bad thing, they grant everyone more options to customize their ship for less cost. T1 rigs are almost, though not quite yet, inexpensive enough to become a consumable item. And Eve needs more consumable items. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
116
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:10:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Even if CCP had never introduced the noctis, salvage drones and the ever so handy MTU, salvage prices would still have fallen over time. Players simply get more efficient at doing things.
Lower rig prices are not a bad thing, they grant everyone more options to customize their ship for less cost. T1 rigs are almost, though not quite yet, inexpensive enough to become a consumable item. And Eve needs more consumable items.
Hey, I love low rig prices, especially low T2 rigs.
I just wanted to explain to the OP that what he was asking for would work against his stated goals. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1152
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Dally Lama wrote:Tippia wrote:I agree. It should be possible to scan out wrecks without having to look for the ships that created them or the anomalies or sites in which they were spawned. Holy freakin' hell. Look what we have here! What we have is a suggestion that will not do what many people imagine it will doGǪ It's one of those Gǣbe careful what you ask forGǥ suggestions.
I has something to do with a trap right? I don't think CCP would make wrecks have larger sigs than ships unless you salvage with an unscannable T3... |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
116
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Pheusia wrote:kami Taranogas wrote:One think i would like to see.
Marauders getting a salvaging bonus instead of a tractor bonus, The mobile tractor unit has made the bonus obsolete. Considering maruaders were designed to be the most efficient level 4 solo ship in part because of the tractor beams.. it only seems fair.
The noctis could use something as well.. The noctis is the very reason that salvage is worth so little. Why is it so hard for people to understand this: when you have a resource that's widely available and easy & convenient to gather, then income per hour from that resource will always be low. The only way to avoid this is for CCP to put in artifical price support. If you want to make ISK from being a salvager, then you should campaign for a nerf to the Noctis, resist a salvage bonus for Marauders and ask CCP to reduce the opportunities for salvaging. Or, alternatively, kill missioners
Well yes this would help also. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1519
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:17:00 -
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Azure Rayl wrote:Riot Girl wrote:What's wrong with salvaging? It's bland, boring and is not a viable end game skill, you make more isk in salvage by doing relic sites then you would by actually salvaging in a salvage ship.
Take your noctis to a known battlezone and clean up. There's plenty of isk to be made there, more than any relic site....
....ooooohhhh you mean risk free isk...
The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
91
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Posted - 2014.07.24 01:41:00 -
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didn't every corp used to keep one or two newbies as salvage monkeys? whatever happened to that |
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
614
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Posted - 2014.07.24 02:28:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:Tippia wrote:I agree. It should be possible to scan out wrecks without having to look for the ships that created them or the anomalies or sites in which they were spawned. This. Make it so. Free kills for the terminally lazy are not currently a supported feature.
Safe ratting for the terminally lazy is not currently a supported feature.
Stop being a hypocrite. Try using D-scan while you plex once in a while. It's more effective than any number of ECCM modules, and in case you haven't noticed a good portion of the rest of Eve lives by this method, so it's not exactly an inconvenience for anyone but you.
You do this in every thread that even off-handedly suggests scanning wrecks. It's been kind of amusing up to this point to watch everyone just casually ignore you but enough is enough. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
19
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Posted - 2014.07.24 11:14:00 -
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Velicitia wrote: ... "Your definition" of salvaging doesn't matter, just what CCP says "Salvaging" is.
... ^ This is salvaging.
Not many people can contradict themselves in their first two sentences, but you rose to the occasion quite admirably. |
Dyscordia
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
24
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:30:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Orin Solette wrote:Well since reprocessing was nerfed, if less salvagers decide to salvage/loot wrecks as a result, then salvage value will increase again.
Most activities in general are losing value it seems. Not enough conflict drivers as of late to boost demand for new ships and modules to replace blown up ones. hint -- salvage (Smashed Trigger Units, Alloyed Tritanium Bars, etc) wasn't affected by the Crius repro changes.
He doesn't mean salvaging has been nerfed; rather, reprocessing meta mods has been nerfed and therefore cleaning up wrecks as a whole will be less appealing to a number of players. Less people salvaging means higher value on salvaged loot. |
Creamdream
Unlimited Potential
2
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:02:00 -
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I'm lighting up a ***. Wait for it.... pffffffffffwooooooshhah |
Serene Repose
1450
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Posted - 2014.07.26 07:53:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:What's wrong with salvaging? Leave it to YOU to ask THIS!
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
851
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Posted - 2014.07.26 10:19:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:Tippia wrote:I agree. It should be possible to scan out wrecks without having to look for the ships that created them or the anomalies or sites in which they were spawned. This. Make it so. Free kills for the terminally lazy are not currently a supported feature. Safe ratting for the terminally lazy is not currently a supported feature. Stop being a hypocrite. Try using D-scan while you plex once in a while. It's more effective than any number of ECCM modules, and in case you haven't noticed a good portion of the rest of Eve lives by this method, so it's not exactly an inconvenience for anyone but you. You do this in every thread that even off-handedly suggests scanning wrecks. It's been kind of amusing up to this point to watch everyone just casually ignore you but enough is enough.
I am sure there are plenty of others who also understand the reasons for the way it currently is, and who will answer you in more depth, I am more involved as a hunter rather than the missioner or prey, and would hate to see such a bonanza thrown at me. It is easy enough as it is to drop on the noctis clearing sleeper sites, and he would see my probes in a flash if I dropped them on him. Currently I need to pre scan the signatures and wait for him or scan down the missioning fleet, if this was implemented, then I could jump into the hole, scan all the wrecks in the hole, and have someone in each site cloaked waiting for him in seconds. he has absolutely no counter.
It would be the bloodbath to end all bloodbaths.
In fact the entire methodology and practices involved in stealthy PVE throughout new eden would be permanently altered, and not for the better.
It becomes somewhat tiring, seeing people hoping to slip this through without people noticing, as a "reasonable " sounding proposition, a little like Swift's reasonable proposition,
So in short Bad for PVP and bad for PVE unless one believes cheap kills are a goal. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus Universal Consortium
88
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Posted - 2014.07.26 10:29:00 -
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Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:didn't every corp used to keep one or two newbies as salvage monkeys? whatever happened to that
Confirming that this is still a thing.
also the obligatory - HI SEX IS DIEING HUFFLEHUFFLEGRRGEWNS(sic)
Also confirming that ninja salvaging is viable as a tertiary income if you are literally BORED OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN MIND and happen to be flying through a warzone.
Go hang out near Uedama or Balle, or Hek, or Renyn, or any of the camp systems on the way to Jita. Ninja salvage will be in high abundance |
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