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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:03:00 -
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The industry boost was supposed to come in kronos but was pushed back due to changes. My question is what would have been put in crius if it had not been industry based?
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4131
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:04:00 -
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We'll know in six weeks or so.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3348
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:08:00 -
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11 pairs of pants.
Oh god. |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:08:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:We'll know in six weeks or so.
yeah but there has been zero hints or anything from ccp about what it would have been.
Personally i pray its FW added to 0.0 and the addition of a few new npc regions to fight over like they did with regular FW and the addition of black rise.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
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Pine Marten
Viziam
Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:29:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:We'll know in six weeks or so.
Why do you automatically say six? CCP themselves said 4-6 weeks so it could possibly be in 4 :) |
General Nusense
Not Posting With My Main
186
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:41:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:The industry boost was supposed to come in kronos but was pushed back due to changes. My question is what would have been put in crius if it had not been industry based?
The same thing the next two expansions will be.
Fixes to Cirus and reduction in costs for manufacturing.
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Aziesta
Serenity Labs
460
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:52:00 -
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say ship rebalancing. Call me crazy. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5712
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:54:00 -
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Stuff in space.
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:58:00 -
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There was something mentioned about updates to the corp/alliance management interface soonGäó but I forget where.
I suspect these early hints are being kept deliberately vague to stop complaints over missing the new patch deadlines, and to allow a bit of wiggle in the process, which is probably sensible. Continuing giving updates on the roadmap wouldn't be a bad idea though.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
2224
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Posted - 2014.07.24 03:20:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:Abrazzar wrote:We'll know in six weeks or so. Why do you automatically say six? CCP themselves said 4-6 weeks so it could possibly be in 4 :)
No, it's almost 9 weeks till the next release.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
700
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Posted - 2014.07.24 03:32:00 -
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Crius supposed to be about stabber drone bay removal and next one after that staber drone bay balance pass.
Oh wait
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
532
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Posted - 2014.07.24 03:34:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:Abrazzar wrote:We'll know in six weeks or so. Why do you automatically say six? CCP themselves said 4-6 weeks so it could possibly be in 4 :)
Ah... the enthusiasm of new players 
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15686
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Posted - 2014.07.24 03:40:00 -
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Bacon.
The answer is always Bacon.
Bacon stuffed Crius.
CCP removed the bacon, inserted Industry nerf, produced tears.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1476
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Posted - 2014.07.24 03:58:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Bacon.
The answer is always Bacon.
Bacon stuffed Crius.
CCP removed the bacon, inserted Industry nerf, produced tears.
But if the whole game is based around extracting tears, and crius extracts more than before, was it REALLY an industry NERF? or was it buffed for the first time in years? |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
665
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:32:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:Abrazzar wrote:We'll know in six weeks or so. Why do you automatically say six? CCP themselves said 4-6 weeks so it could possibly be in 4 :)
Wasn't that a typo? Thought it was 46 weeks...
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff
CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
290
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:16:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Bacon.
The answer is always Bacon.
Bacon stuffed Crius.
CCP removed the bacon, inserted Industry nerf, produced tears.
CCCP Ssab here, Bringing Back Bacon!
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
656
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:20:00 -
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They were going to add PLEX to the incursion loot table but figured we would like this more. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
2396
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Posted - 2014.07.24 07:27:00 -
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Some redesigns and rebalancing.
When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif =ƒÿü |
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2014.07.24 07:29:00 -
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I read "indie" and though, whoa, that explains SO MANY things.... |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3733
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Posted - 2014.07.24 07:30:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:The industry boost was supposed to come in kronos but was pushed back due to changes. My question is what would have been put in crius if it had not been industry based?
Apparel. Lots and lots of apparel.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4178
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Posted - 2014.07.24 07:48:00 -
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Like every other expansion, generating tears and whines from various quarters. |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
120
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:42:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:The industry boost was supposed to come in kronos but was pushed back due to changes. My question is what would have been put in crius if it had not been industry based?
Maybe nothing. CCP didn't say that something would definitely be released every 6 weeks: although between the multiple teams working on various projects it's likely that at least one of them will have completed something, it might be an internal project. eg: Team Made Up Name completes their work on a devtool that Team Those Guys need to start work on their next project, or Team Oppressed By The Violence Inherent In The System finishes mapping the functions of a feature that needs code refactoring.
That said, Xander dropped a heavy hint on his Crossing Zebras blog so v0v.
As for what kind of things, CCP Seagull told us at FanFest that CCP are starting work on reworking the Corps & Alliances features, and the Structures as well. So we can probably expect to see a steady trickle of stuff relating to those, as well as the usual Little Things and Ship Rebalancing. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.24 11:05:00 -
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If the industry features hadn't been a part of Crius, but rather released as a part of Kronos on 3 Jun, then there wouldn't have been a release on 22 Jul. Rather we would all have gone on summer vacation and Crius would have been released on 19 Aug.
But instead we rejigged the release schedule and changed summer vacations a bit, added a deployment on 22 Jul, moved some of the later deployment dates a week back each, and bumped up each of the titan releases by one deployment (i.e., moved the names, not the content).
Updating CCP Seagull's section on the new release cadence in the EVE keynote at Fanfest this year to the current schedule then 2014 now looks like this:
- 3 Jun GÇô Kronos
- 22 Jul GÇô Crius
- 26 Aug GÇô Hyperion
- 30 Sep GÇô Oceanus
- 4 Nov GÇô Phoebe
- 9 Dec GÇô Rhea
The dates in the 2015 schedule are currently unchanged but the names move up one deployment slot so we start with Tethys on 20 Jan. Perhaps someone can update http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansions_of_Eve_Online and both move Crius into the "Released Expansions" section and amend the "Planned Future Releases" section?
As for the content in Hyperion and onwards, we haven't started talking much about the exact details of that yet, it's more been teasing by CCP karkur and CCP Punkturis (yeah, that's how we roll, you know us) but we will mostly be back at the office from summer vacations on 5 Aug and you will start to see more forum posts and dev blogs at that time.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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Jarnis McPieksu
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
514
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Posted - 2014.07.24 11:13:00 -
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If CCP has any sense, they will keep not-talking about dates for stuff until it is locked to a release..
Othewise we'll drown in posts crying about how feature X got delayed from patch A to B and how it caused Thing Y to be pushed back and yadda yadda.. with rapid pace of patches, there really should only be two states for features;
A: Feature is confirmed, locked in to the next patch (usually around the time the feature appears on SiSi). Push-backs after this would be exceedingly rare. Devblogs appear explaining the gory details.
B: Feature is planned in a future update. CCP may have internal plans and targets, but if they want to stay sane, they should not name the patch target because stuff happens and schedules get juggled and so on.
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:01:00 -
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So hyperion is slated to August 26th? But you wont start talking about its additions till the 4th? Isnt that cutting it close?
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
337
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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:13:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:So hyperion is slated to August 26th? But you wont start talking about its additions till the 4th? Isnt that cutting it close?
Hasn't it already been established that content in a particular point release is often work that had been ongoing during other earlier releases and that these release windows are only just to package them together?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346
LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing
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TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Intrepid Crossing
247
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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:16:00 -
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POS overhauls are the next thing on the roadmap. probably will be in Oceanus due to its complexity. Probably alot of balance passes and reworks to lay the foundation for oceanus will be in hyperion. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
2272
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:23:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:POS overhauls are the next thing on the roadmap. probably will be in Oceanus due to its complexity. Probably alot of balance passes and reworks to lay the foundation for oceanus will be in hyperion. Per this press release from May then French language support is "slated for completion in September 2014" and we are targeting the 30 Sep deployment of Oceanus.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Intrepid Crossing
247
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:22:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:TheMercenaryKing wrote:POS overhauls are the next thing on the roadmap. probably will be in Oceanus due to its complexity. Probably alot of balance passes and reworks to lay the foundation for oceanus will be in hyperion. Per this press release from May then French language support is "slated for completion in September 2014" and we are targeting the 30 Sep deployment of Oceanus.
But there is a localization team for that. I cant imagine CCP putting the same resources into French localization as they would for the roadmap. What would the CCP teams not working on localization be doing? |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
2510
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:22:00 -
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(Just to be crystal clear, starbase overhauls are *NOT* currently targeted at a particular release and the amount of work required to ship something worthwhile in this area is extremely open-ended at this time.) |
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
2272
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:12:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:TheMercenaryKing wrote:POS overhauls are the next thing on the roadmap. probably will be in Oceanus due to its complexity. Probably alot of balance passes and reworks to lay the foundation for oceanus will be in hyperion. Per this press release from May then French language support is "slated for completion in September 2014" and we are targeting the 30 Sep deployment of Oceanus. But there is a localization team for that. I cant imagine CCP putting the same resources into French localization as they would for the roadmap. What would the CCP teams not working on localization be doing? They would be working on something else in that period of time but not necessarily targeting the same release.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:25:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:(Just to be crystal clear, starbase overhauls are *NOT* currently targeted at a particular release and the amount of work required to ship something worthwhile in this area is extremely open-ended at this time.)
Keep up the good work... ship it when ready and no one second sooner.
Though I really do hope you guys are working on adding factionwarefare to npc null sec. That would create so much vontent you could shake a stick at it.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio
211
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:26:00 -
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So when are we going to start seeing 'new content' that one would expect from a new release/expansion.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the updates and improvements (never stop this part), but new stuff is great too.
Senex Legio |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:02:00 -
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Jake Rivers wrote:So when are we going to start seeing 'new content' that one would expect from a new release/expansion.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the updates and improvements (never stop this part), but new stuff is great too.
when its ready and not one iota before that...
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4137
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:07:00 -
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Jake Rivers wrote:So when are we going to start seeing 'new content' that one would expect from a new release/expansion.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the updates and improvements (never stop this part), but new stuff is great too.
What makes you think that updates, expansions and improvements to existing features is not 'new content'? They're adding something that wasn't there before, so it's new content, too, no? Personally I feel they should first finish updating, improving and expanding existing features before they start adding more to the pile. Solid foundation for the castle because a castle in the sky won't work and all that.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:10:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:So when are we going to start seeing 'new content' that one would expect from a new release/expansion.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the updates and improvements (never stop this part), but new stuff is great too. What makes you think that updates, expansions and improvements to existing features is not 'new content'? They're adding something that wasn't there before, so it's new content, too, no? Personally I feel they should first finish updating, improving and expanding existing features before they start adding more to the pile. Solid foundation for the castle because a castle in the sky won't work and all that.
would you construe woking on NPC null sec as existing content?
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
588
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:13:00 -
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Ocih wrote:They were going to add PLEX to the incursion loot table but figured we would like this more.
1 plex per site spawn. After the plex is looted the person that looted it gets a flag allowing everyone in the system to shoot at him/her. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4137
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:22:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:would you construe woking on NPC null sec as existing content?
NPC Null exists. It just doesn't do anything really. So expanding on NPC sov being there but not doing anything other than preventing others from taking sov to doing something and improving the flavour and significance of it could be considered working on existing content. Then again doing that would also add something new, so it'd add new content to the existing content. Though I would say adding meaning to NPC sov would go hand in hand with a sov rework.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:13:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:MeBiatch wrote:would you construe woking on NPC null sec as existing content? NPC Null exists. It just doesn't do anything really. So expanding on NPC sov being there but not doing anything other than preventing others from taking sov to doing something and improving the flavour and significance of it could be considered working on existing content. Then again doing that would also add something new, so it'd add new content to the existing content. Though I would say adding meaning to NPC sov would go hand in hand with a sov rework.
Just the thought of Pirate Fation Warefare carried over to NPC null sec sounds like soo much fun...
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Circumstantial Evidence
132
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:15:00 -
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Great Wildlands has 4 stations in just three systems close together, fostering pilot "interaction" in just one small area of the region. Thukker Tribe has surely done well enough with Fuel Blocks, that they might afford a few more stations enabling additional "interaction" near other entry points to the region. An "oasis" in the geographic middle of the region would be nice, too. |
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
3877
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:21:00 -
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Jarnis McPieksu wrote:If CCP has any sense, they will keep not-talking about dates for stuff until it is locked to a release..
CCP does have some sense, which is why the players are kept in the loop as much as is reasonably practical. The community has shown time and again that we much prefer fuzzy tansparency to perfect opacity.
My heartfelt condolences that reality and the nature of running an MMO don't live up to your exacting standards.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Da Dom
Wii R
108
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Posted - 2014.07.25 04:29:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:So when are we going to start seeing 'new content' that one would expect from a new release/expansion.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the updates and improvements (never stop this part), but new stuff is great too. What makes you think that updates, expansions and improvements to existing features is not 'new content'? They're adding something that wasn't there before, so it's new content, too, no? Personally I feel they should first finish updating, improving and expanding existing features before they start adding more to the pile. Solid foundation for the castle because a castle in the sky won't work and all that.
Agreed. I think CCP is on the right track with all these upgrades and improvements to core features of the game.
"If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost, that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them." ~Henry David Thoreau
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
2396
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Posted - 2014.07.25 07:51:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:So hyperion is slated to August 26th? But you wont start talking about its additions till the 4th? Isnt that cutting it close?
As I know life, it will be 2 months after August 25th when it will be ready.
When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
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Serene Repose
1447
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:08:00 -
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Aziesta wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and say ship rebalancing. Call me crazy. Crazy.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
121
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:13:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:So when are we going to start seeing 'new content' that one would expect from a new release/expansion.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the updates and improvements (never stop this part), but new stuff is great too. What makes you think that updates, expansions and improvements to existing features is not 'new content'? They're adding something that wasn't there before, so it's new content, too, no? Personally I feel they should first finish updating, improving and expanding existing features before they start adding more to the pile. Solid foundation for the castle because a castle in the sky won't work and all that.
Counterpoint: We're basically playing the same EVE as we were the day after Incarna went live, it's just that about a thousand things that didn't bloody work then now do.
I'm super glad that all those thousands of things work much better than they used to, and I certainly agree that rescuing existant ships, modules and even activities from un-iterated uselessness is, in a sense, adding "new" stuff, but still. The fact remains that the last expansions that added a genuinely new thing to do were Tyrannis and Incursions, in 2010. (Incarna didn't add anything new to do which was the bloody problem with it in the first place)
Equally true is that we're not going to get anything genuinely new until 2015.
5 years is a long, long time for an MMO not to add anything. Don't get me wrong here - CCP are doing the right thing here, they've made the tough choice and I sure as hell want them to fix structures and sov and corps & alliances as urgently as possible.
But still.
5 years, man. That's a long old wait. I sure hope that CCP do a good job on that sov rework. |
LordSwift
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
39
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:35:00 -
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PC Gamer Article from EVE's new BOSS
Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. "
Zoe: "Shoot 'em?"
Mal: "Politely." |
ElDiablo DelRojo
Ganja Labs
Exodus.
8
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:31:00 -
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wrong thread. fml |
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